In for results, this should be most interesting. :)

Well I will be making street tire runs and dr runs. I will pull the spare and tools that is 40lbs on top of all the weight reduction from the mods so about 100 lbs which for rule of thumb is good for 10whp being used.

I won't got that far I just had the 5w30 redline put in so I will stick with that, thanks for the advice though.

His Camaro is a 6speed. Hopefully with all the factors of weight and my bolt on's it should be a pretty close race, honestly I think with me getting off the plane and going to the track the 1st day I actually drive my car he has the advantage. I don't expect to pull him that 1st weekend home but I hope the 2nd week I am home I will get it done if I didn't do it the first time.

It's an interesting match-up... even if he wins ... take some pride that you can say "let's go take some turns" hehe.

How much rear wheel hp do you have.
run the DR's at 25 psig. and if you have track problems go down to 23.
Take out your front pasenger seat will ave you 51 lbs.
drain your winshield wiper bottle.

Z

It's actually pretty common to make those numbers based on just those mods. Those engines are beast.

If the camaro is running DR on a stock 10 bolt he's running a huge chance of blowing his rear. My buddy went though 3 rear ends in a matter of 1.5 years and that was in a 3rd gen with a 305 making like a little over 200 hp.

V8Killer do u know all the mods the camaro has done to it?

All I know is a baby cam and a corsa exhaust. I can get more specifics from my buddy.

ok, i'm guessing it's an SS? I'm not sure... so here's the specs in case no one knows about them...

Engine Type aluminum alloy pushrod overhead
valve 16-valve V8
Engine Size 5.7 liters / 346 cu. in.
Horsepower 320 @ 5200 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 345 @ 4400 rpm
Transmission 6-speed manual
Wheelbase / Length 101.1 in. / 193.5 in.
Curb Weight 3439 lbs.
Pounds Per Horsepower 10.7
Fuel Capacity 16.8 gal.
Fuel Requirement unleaded premium, 91 octane
Tires P275/40 ZR17 Goodyear Eagle F1
Brakes, front/rear vented disc / vented disc
Suspension, front/rear independent short-and-long-arm with
coil springs /solid axle with coil springs
Drivetrain front engine, rear-wheel drive

PERFORMANCE
EPA Fuel Economy - miles per gallon
city / highway / observed 18 / 27 / 20
0 to 60 mph 5.3 sec
1/4 mile (E.T.) 13.7 sec

Chevrolet Camaro SS (2000)

320 hp and only a "baby cam" and an exhaust makes me think there is more work done to this car than just that because 373 whp from those 2 mods seems VERY high as i've stated before... I don't know for sure no, it's just IMO.

Another source 2000 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 0-60 mph 5.2 Quarter mile 13.5

Chevrolet 0-60 Times & Chevrolet Quarter Mile Times | Chevy Chevelle SS, Corvette ZO6 0-60, Cobalt, New Camaro 0-60, Blazer and Chevy Monte Carlo 0 to 60 stats!

Wow man that's a great write up. All cars are different in a way as we all know and respond to add ons differently for instance his old 2000 SS had full bot ons and ran a 13.4-13.5. That is with him driving, my other buddy drove it who weighs about 170 did it in 12.98. So I believe the weight factor is going to play in my favor. That 320is is at the crank I would assume correct? When you swap stock internals out on ls1's it can really liven them up. They got cam's for that car with bolt ons that can get it into the 9s. I can't remeber the name of the cam buts its the biggest one they can put in the car. Thanks for all the info man you didn't need to do all that lol.

No big deal, and yeah they always quote bhp or crank power... so hp stock for stock the Z is actually putting out more... but obviously severely lacking in the torque department.

I think it will be a close race, and will come down to driver more than anything... based on hp to weight ratio here is what you are looking at.

If you figure that from what Red Zed told me that it was 373 whp that he got that with JUST the cars stated weight of 3439 lbs that is 9.21 lbs for each hp. Adding his 400 lbs to that and it raises it up to 10.29 lbs per hp.

I am going to just assume you are making 320 hp. I don't know the exact weight of the car, but i've read the touring is a little over 3400 lbs... then i've read it's under that. At 3400 lbs you're looking at 10.625 plus your weight which will put it up a little higher because of you weighing a lot less than your friend. I also don't know exactly what kind of weight reduction you or he will do and how much each of you can lose, though it's not going to change things a whole lot.

Someone with your mods should be able to run a 12.6 or 12.7 with a good run... most of the guys running under that have gears and have a lot of 1/4 time.

Win on lose look at it like this... your still driving a nicer car that isn't a chevy :happydance:

Stock 285. I won't know till after the tune and all parts added. Did somebody actually weigh that for the windshield fluid I remember seeing that in the weight reduction thread but no actual weight? I am just going to do tools and spare tire.

You have or are getting the F.I. exhaust and LTH's correct? The CBE part is 10 lbs lighter and I would imagine the LTH's are lighter than the header and HFC OE combo, so you could be saving another 15 lbs with you exhaust and such there.

I believe I read it is 42 lbs for the spare, tools, etc and if you have the sub, that's another 8.

If the Camaro hooks up you're toast because the Camaro has the potential to launch very very hard. The thing is street worthy Camaros have a tough time getting the power down at launch. The F body with the LS1 (I had a 99 SS MT6) is capable of unbelievable burn-outs, but burn-outs don't get it done at the track. You have to be perfect to win. If you both have perfect runs he wins. Your 60' time needs to be superior for you to win.

F.I. CBE=10lbs, F.I. LTH=17lbs,JWT Clutch Flywheel combo=17lbs,NST Overdrive Pulley=5oz,Stillen UD pulley=3.73lbs. Now I upgraded the tires from the RE50A to RE-11 and upped the size to 265F/285R. I also don't know the weight difference between stillen g3's the stock air boxes, also add in a stillen 19row oil cooler. The above numbers are what is posted on the websites as =$$ lighter than stock. I will take out the tire and tools but leaving the sub.



Ya I got an uphill battle but either way it is going to be fun and I love being the underdog b/c you know when you can pull a rabbit out your ***. :tup:

I'm a fan of rabbits.

Even a Fbody with susp work will have a hard time lauching. And if you lauch any 4th gen Fbody on a stock rear very very hard its going to blow. Stock chevy 10 bolts SUCK.


V8killer. If you could get specs on the cam that would be awesome
lift, duration @ 0.05", and the LSA

stock specs are
0.467" / 0.479" int/exh Lift
197/207 Duration
116 LSA

If its a baby cam itll be around .520-.530 lift, 220-230 duration and prob 114 LSA Prob good for like 40-50ish whp depending on a bunch of stuff. Itll also show me if hes making top end or bottom end power. you can put around .600" of lift in the motor stock. wouldnt be an advantage bc you prob wouldnt be able to flow that much on stock heads

Well guys there seems to be a lot of misconception about the old ls1 in this thread. I'm the guy who put all the mods on Ryans (the op) car and also done work to the 00 SS he mentioned hes racing. The camaro only has headers a small cam and intake, stock gearing and all and yes it made 373HP which is on the low side of the spectrum for that car.
Anyhow I think it'll be a good run if the 370 gets from the hole well, but when the Camaro gets around 2nd gear watch out I can tell you it pulls like a freight train up high.
My old 02 SS with the same mods and a fast intake made 417HP and 385 FTLB tq, the OP can attest to how that car ran from experience... That car had a 231/237 600 lift cam it worked pretty damn good

Nice site here guys. I can't wait to run Friday night against Ryan (the OP). I'll be on 275 street tires so your 315 Mickey Thompsons should get you out of the hole a little better, but it's your death on the deep end. :)

You obviously know a little about LSX stuff, but you're not giving credit to the heads that are on the car stock. It's a baby cam and my torque curve is as flat as a pancake. My car peaks at 6400rpms and doesn't fall off; we shut it down at 6900 on the dyno and it was still pulling. Oh, and Ryan; you called my old SS weaksauce in your first post? That car DRUG you on the highway and ran faster at the track. :stirthepot:

Im more of an LT1 guy. built a mild .060 over motor for my old 95 firebird. never dynoed but it was a ~350whp car w a stock cam and no tune (never got to finish the build :mad:)

I most def do give credit to the heads. Just with .600" of lift you have to have a way to get it in and get it out. So youd have to have an intake and headers, at the very least, to move the air. I never got all the mods from the OP so it was more of a general statment. If your building a small block, LSX is hands down the way to go. i miss the tq of a v8 :( sounds like you have a very fun set up! good luck to you both!!

DTHPROOF how about some :pics: :) id love to see the car and the dyno sheet.

I was wondering how long it would be for you guys to show up on my forum. Yes josh I still think you old camaro was weak sauce hell you even said it yourself time to time. On the highway you were not driving it jamie was. Also I've learned a lot about my car and not having an oil cooler on it at the time how it can greatly affect performance. Yes it did run faster at the track but who has more seat time? I've only ever been twice in my life. We will see what happens good buddy.

Lol yes but sadly im taking jamies advice not to run on them my first week back home until I get a chance to try them out. Ya for my car I always know at the end of the track is what matters and my top end is not comparable so I already know I got my work cut out for me.

Jamie I hate you I still have your bumper ingrained in my eyeballs when you would pull away lol

I don't have any flattering pics because I hate the black C6 wheels that came with the car when I got it so here's a couple of vids, lol. The first is just an idle vid with the Corsa and my baby-cam. The second and third are a couple of quick highway pulls before I had Mayhem tune it; it pulls harder and smoother now.
Corsa start up...baby cam - YouTube
15 roll to 85
July 24, 2011 12:41 PM - YouTube
55 roll to 85
July 24, 2011 12:42 PM - YouTube
Thanks guys, and Ryan; win or lose it's all in good fun buddy. :tiphat:

Hey Ryan- buy me a Premium Membership lol
Oh, and Jamie too!

Of course it is man LOL I know it can seem to get heated but it's not that at all just the usual trash talk is normal.

NO WAY you guys can get off my forum now LOL:tup:

Ok enough talk... when's the race? Get it on video so we can all check it out too!

The race is this Friday. I get back from Afghanistan on Thursday but I'll be in the sack with the woman that day:tup: and sometime Friday after jet lagg is a little gone I'll drive my car and try to learn how she drives before I go to the track that night.

That's what I wanna hear! Z FTW!!!

Thanks buddy! :ughdance:

:bowrofl:

Hell no! This is a nicely-ran site. I may need to pick up a car like yours soon.

Looks good. This should be a pretty good race.

Thanks man. :)

If I lose the race no biggie but I can tell you that when you come over you will lose at beer pong lol

Yeah, lol You and your Roxanne are reigning champs, but unfortunately I can't drink with the diet I'm on. I'm finally detox'd.

I think it best if you wait to get in the sack with the woman on Saturday if you really want a shot at this! :bowrofl:

^ lol

Lol no its part of my weight reduction every ounce counts.