370z vs 335i Coupe

Push370zzz · 03-15-2011, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BLM

This is contrary to what I've heard. The 335 guys talk about heat soak and the need for an aftermarket fuel pump. If you're doubling the boost and using the same intake, exhaust, and intercooler I can't see how that's optimal. Is it impressive to make 400 whp on a $500 tune only? Hell yes. But I've had turbo cars before and have worked on many Mk IV Supras and even they didn't make that power without intake, intercooler, exhaust, AND a boost increase. BPU+++ was good for mid 400's on pump gas. If you wanted 500 and above you needed to swap for a single. And in terms of a road course, I doubt it. All that power and stock tires? Plus the Z out handles it stock...

And im not trying to be fresh, but I've never seen one driven by a man.

There is pretty much no way this won't beat my Z on a road course. I had R-Comps and sway bars, but I guess we'll see.

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Originally Posted by whoLEEoh

Push370zz I understand u love your car. I was in-between the nismo and 135 myself. It's a nice car but not a true sports car IMO. Didn't feel like one when I drove it. 400rwhp on a tune I call bs. Now I know a tune frees up around 60who on a stock motor so I say your at like 340-350rwhp. And on a straight line for the 6k difference in price just ask jnaut what he spent on his car running 12.2xx on the 1/4 on street tires. Maybe around 4-5k. And on turns the 135 feels good and I think it's a drivers race but they come with skinny little 255s in the real if I recall. My buddy is making 430ish whp with only 3k into the 135 which is awesome so just enjoy the car both cars are almost equal when considering price difference and money invested (performance wise). The 135 is very confy dd tho.

It's not a true sports car, that's not why I bought it. The lowest boost setting brings it to 360 rwhp, and I can add another 3 psi or so on top of that. It's not a drivers race against anybody that isn't Jnaut...I have no trouble turning out sub 5 second 0-60 times starting in 2nd gear, and 0-100 is right around 10 or less. The Z was lucky to do that in high 11's.

Bottom line is you guys are frustrating me...I am still a loyal Z enthusiast, but I'm just pointing out how disappointing it is that Nissan put such an un-tunable motor into the 370. The car would be awesome if you could pump out 400 rwhp for under a grand. Unfortunately, you can't, and as a result...the 135i has been a much more "fun" alternative to my Z.

GZ3 · 03-15-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Push370zzz

There is pretty much no way this won't beat my Z on a road course. I had R-Comps and sway bars, but I guess we'll see.

It's not a true sports car, that's not why I bought it. The lowest boost setting brings it to 360 rwhp, and I can add another 3 psi or so on top of that. It's not a drivers race against anybody that isn't Jnaut...I have no trouble turning out sub 5 second 0-60 times starting in 2nd gear, and 0-100 is right around 10 or less. The Z was lucky to do that in high 11's.

Bottom line is you guys are frustrating me...I am still a loyal Z enthusiast, but I'm just pointing out how disappointing it is that Nissan put such an un-tunable motor into the 370. The car would be awesome if you could pump out 400 rwhp for under a grand. Unfortunately, you can't, and as a result...the 135i has been a much more "fun" alternative to my Z.

Untunable motor?! Are you serious! First off VVEL hasnt even been cracked, there are so many parameters that havent even been touched. Right now its just AF ratio, timming and a few other little adjustments...and even for what it is, it still makes decent power on a tune. Second, you need to realize that your "just a tune" is for your TURBOS! You have what 300hp/300tq TWIN TURBO charged straight 6 right? Well of course a tune is gonna do allot for for you, you have (2) huge power adders right there. That straight 6 motor with out the AID of turbos wouldnt tune for than 10-15rwhp. NA gain VS FI gain is a retarded comparison. In fact i dont know any motor in the history of man (maybe you can enlighten) that is NA with "just a tune" that picks up over 150rwhp. Your tuning for the TURBOS not the motor...that motor is nothing more power than a Scion TC without the turbos. Third, about the handling, you say that with just sways and this and that you can keep up with a 370Z..? Am sure, maybe, but what 370Z is gonna stay stock anyway?! Stock for stock, mod for mod the 135I will not outhandle the Z.../

ianthegreat · 03-16-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Push370zzz

There is pretty much no way this won't beat my Z on a road course. I had R-Comps and sway bars, but I guess we'll see.

It's not a true sports car, that's not why I bought it. The lowest boost setting brings it to 360 rwhp, and I can add another 3 psi or so on top of that. It's not a drivers race against anybody that isn't Jnaut...I have no trouble turning out sub 5 second 0-60 times starting in 2nd gear, and 0-100 is right around 10 or less. The Z was lucky to do that in high 11's.

Bottom line is you guys are frustrating me...I am still a loyal Z enthusiast, but I'm just pointing out how disappointing it is that Nissan put such an un-tunable motor into the 370. The car would be awesome if you could pump out 400 rwhp for under a grand. Unfortunately, you can't, and as a result...the 135i has been a much more "fun" alternative to my Z.

From one 335i owner to another... 360rwhp is a bit stretched. Maaaaybe 350 at 12-14 psi tune only. Our cars dyno stock around 260-290 depending on elevation and conditions. For example, in Houston I dynoed stock at 282, after tune I was in the 330 range at 12psi. After I installed my dp's, fmic, exhaust I was around 380-390. Then w/ meth I can jump above 400rwhp on pump 93.

CZero · 04-02-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ianthegreat

From one 335i owner to another... 360rwhp is a bit stretched. Maaaaybe 350 at 12-14 psi tune only. Our cars dyno stock around 260-290 depending on elevation and conditions. For example, in Houston I dynoed stock at 282, after tune I was in the 330 range at 12psi. After I installed my dp's, fmic, exhaust I was around 380-390. Then w/ meth I can jump above 400rwhp on pump 93.

Yeah, but you still lost to an E36 M with bolts on

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