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Old 08-13-2012, 12:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know this was brought up several years ago but I wanted to suggest it again now that the forum has a gazillion members.

I think there should be a rule that all classified listings must include a photo - ideally with a username and date - similar to what they do on that "other forum".

If it's too much trouble to take 30 seconds to upload a photo of a $500 item then what can I expect when the guy has my money and I'm waiting on him to pack and ship my item? Including a photo makes it much harder to fake a sale and ensures at least some level of commitment to actually sell what they're posting about.

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I'm bumping this back to the top.

Admins, this is a real issue. We really need a rule change to protect members and make the classified section a safer place to buy, sell and trade parts. Please consider it.

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We should also require a minimum post count. Nothing outrageous - like 10 posts or so just to keep spammers and bots at bay. There are several forums that employ this method as well.
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^ I like that idea too
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I'm bumping this back to the top.

Admins, this is a real issue. We really need a rule change to protect members and make the classified section a safer place to buy, sell and trade parts. Please consider it.

Thanks in advance!
Your suggestion has been noted, And in view of the fact that this forum has grown by leaps and bounds

Im pretty sure Ak will keep that in mind to maybe considering to changing the Classifieds to include this request, But thats AK's decision.

Im in favor of also requiring maybe a 10 post min limit, To even post an ad

But thats just me
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Thanks Trip... I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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I think its a good idea guys, Also what about a score like a feed back counter for people who sell stuff more often then others. I would make people more at ease when they can look and read feed back from a seller. Just a thought...
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I know this was brought up several years ago but I wanted to suggest it again now that the forum has a gazillion members.

I think there should be a rule that all classified listings must include a photo - ideally with a username and date - similar to what they do on that "other forum".

If it's too much trouble to take 30 seconds to upload a photo of a $500 item then what can I expect when the guy has my money and I'm waiting on him to pack and ship my item? Including a photo makes it much harder to fake a sale and ensures at least some level of commitment to actually sell what they're posting about.

Just my 2 cents.
Thanks w0rM for the suggestion. Though I don't talk about it, this topic has been on my mind for months.

When I launched THE370Z forum classified in September 2008, I wanted my classified section to be the busiest with MOST entries per day. I looked around to get an ideas "how" I can achieve that. I wanted my forum to have the busiest classified area among all other Z forums. This gives forum members a HUGE advantage when they are modding their car because not a single product misses the classified. Even people from other forum sells their stuff.

My first instinct was to look at similar VERY popular and successful classified places. Two biggest name came to my mind were Ebay and Craigslist. I took a 2nd look at "why" these sites were so popular/busy and applied some of the attributes from it to the forum. Almost 4 1/2 years later, I can say that THE370Z has one of the busiest classified section among other Z forums. One of the attributes of ebay/craigslist is that you have freedom to sell whatever you want/like without having to worry about any requirements for it. This freedom is huge. This encourages people to just post things. But this comes with a price. As you've mentioned above, the last thing you want is some guy to run away with your money. As scared I was to try this with my forum, I'm surprised to see the fraud/problem scammers are no more than 3%-4%, meaning every 100 transactions that are good, only 3-4 of them are bad (most of these are usually bad decision on buyers part) But it's not a good thing as people spend their hard worked money on their parts. What you gain in one way, you lose in other way.

Taking your first line ( I wanted to suggest it again now that the forum has a gazillion members ) and 2nd paragraph into consideration (If it's too much trouble to take 30 seconds to upload a photo of a $500 item then what can I expect when the guy has my money and I'm waiting on him to pack and ship my item? Including a photo makes it much harder to fake a sale and ensures at least some level of commitment to actually sell what they're posting about), I def. see where you're coming from. I think the best bet would be for me to come up with classified rule that cover/saves more members. Granted we DEF WILL lose classified entries due to stricter rules but at least members won't lose their hard earned money. I will probably have a scale that $0-$300 (no requirement), $300-$10,000 (pics with s/n) etc. (of course numbers are something I need to work on. it's just an example). So allow me to brainstorm and get back to you on this. I'm always open to creative solutions


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Unfortunately this helps but not by much. I will tell you from my personal experience. I have registered to forums before just to sell an item. I had no intentions of scamming of course, but sometimes these forums required 10 posts. I'll be honest with you, I literally just posted in 10 threads (few in lounge and gen section) within 3 minutes and have gotten my access to classified. Someone who has the intention to scam, this doesn't protect you. The concept of picture with the s/n seems to be most effective solution till date.


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I think its a good idea guys, Also what about a score like a feed back counter for people who sell stuff more often then others. I would make people more at ease when they can look and read feed back from a seller. Just a thought...
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Thank you for the suggestions. I'm going to work on the some ideas for classifieds and brainstorm it until it's perfect.
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Thanks for the reply AK!

I think everyone understands that there's always going to be an element of risk when you buy something used online. There's really no way anyone could ever make it 100% safe.

IMO, a photo requirement along with post counts and reps should give people a pretty good idea of who and what they're dealing with.

Thank you very much for considering the change.
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