DO NOT COME TO TEXAS NISSAN OF GRAPEVINE DEALERSHIP, read my story to find out why...

PapoZalsa · 04-04-2010, 09:40 AM

Did you get your deposit back?

Again post this in the Nissan North America Discussion Board on Facebook and find your regional Nissan Customer Service Rep. and email them too.

d02808045 · 04-04-2010, 11:21 AM

I did get my deposit back, better be else I’ll give them hell

...!!!

what tit me even more were that I contacted their general manager the next day (after about 5 unsuccessful phone calls and numeric voice mails of course), i got through with the general manager but no surprise to me he was a totally **** just like his employees...his words weren't sincere, not even try to apologize, and sound like he doesn't even care about customer services. All he said that they have the same situation 2 or 3 times like that in a month....and repeatedly said it wasn't their fault (at least he try to cover up like that)... I was like, you're kidding me right, so you guys screw about dozen of people 2-3 times like that in a month, and wondering why your dealership is still in business right?...off course he doesn't seem to give a sh#t... and can't wait to get rid of my phone call....I told him that I want a letter of apology from the salesman and the sale manager, and possible from him as well. He promised but I never got any letter from them....except for a few enjoying service reminders from their services department....I ignored most of them but they're just kept coming, so the last time I write on their service letter and send it back telling them to go to hell because I did not buy any **** from them and stop bother me with all the worthless reminders again...haven't seen anything since!!!!!!

d02808045 · 04-04-2010, 11:25 AM

Oh, just a question, I got the whole situation recorded (audio), wondering if it's legal to post up here....

AK370Z · 04-04-2010, 02:06 PM

I'm very sorry to hear what you've went though

. Have you tried contacting our supporting DEALER from The370Z? They will work with you and make sure you get a great deal on your Z

DEALERS: http://www.the370z.com/the370z-com-vendors-sponsors/

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Originally Posted by d02808045

Oh, just a question, I got the whole situation recorded (audio), wondering if it's legal to post up here....

Here's a good article. I don't want you to get in any trouble.

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At first, the question of whether or not to tape record a phone call seems like a matter of personal preference. Some journalists see taping as an indispensable tool, while others don’t like the formality it may impose during an interview. Some would not consider taping a call without the subject’s consent, others do it routinely.

However, there are important questions of law that must be addressed first. Both federal and state statutes govern the use of electronic recording equipment. The unlawful use of such equipment can give rise not only to a civil suit by the “injured” party, but also criminal prosecution.

Accordingly, it is critical that journalists know the statutes that apply and what their rights and responsibilities are when recording and disclosing communications.

Although most of these statutes address wiretapping and eavesdropping — listening in on conversations of others without their knowledge — they usually apply to electronic recording of any conversations, including phone calls and in-person interviews.

Federal law allows recording of phone calls and other electronic communications with the consent of at least one party to the call. A majority of the states and territories have adopted wiretapping statutes based on the federal law, although most also have extended the law to cover in-person conversations. Thirty-eight states and the District of Columbia permit individuals to record conversations to which they are a party without informing the other parties that they are doing so. These laws are referred to as “one-party consent” statutes, and as long as you are a party to the conversation, it is legal for you to record it. (Nevada also has a one-party consent statute, but the state Supreme Court has interpreted it as an all-party rule.)

Twelve states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation. Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington. Be aware that you will sometimes hear these referred to inaccurately as “two-party consent” laws. If there are more than two people involved in the conversation, all must consent to the taping.

Regardless of the state, it is almost always illegal to record a conversation to which you are not a party, do not have consent to tape, and could not naturally overhear.

Federal law and most state laws also make it illegal to disclose the contents of an illegally intercepted call or communication.

At least 24 states have laws outlawing certain uses of hidden cameras in private places, although many of the laws are specifically limited to attempts to record nudity. Also, many of the statutes concern unattended hidden cameras, not cameras hidden on a person engaged in a conversation. Journalists should be aware, however, that the audio portion of a videotape will be treated under the regular wiretapping laws in any state. And regardless of whether a state has a criminal law regarding cameras, undercover recording in a private place can prompt civil lawsuits for invasion of privacy.

This guide provides a quick reference to the specific provisions of each jurisdiction’s wiretap law. It outlines whether one-party or all-party consent is required to permit recording of a conversation, and provides the legal citations for wiretap statutes. Some references to case law have been provided in instances where courts have provided further guidance on the law. Penalties for violations of the law are described, including criminal penalties (jail and fines) and civil damages (money that a court may order the violator to pay to the subject of the taping). Instances where the law specifically includes cellular calls and the wireless portion of cordless phone calls also are noted, but many laws are purposely broad enough to encompass such calls without specifically mentioning them.

Sidebar articles throughout the guide address specific issues related to taping. Note that these are general discussions, and you will have to consult the state entries to see how these issues apply in particular states.

d02808045 · 04-04-2010, 08:28 PM

About the recording, they asked my permission to record when we stopped by to do the paper works at night that day, so I figured if they recorded me than I would have the rights to record them too???

I already got my 40th model through Bankston Nissan of Lewisville. Thanks to Probert_Nash, I took my VPP claim number and my salesman (Mike Vaughan) was a 1000 times better than anyone I have seen! Extremely sincere, the whole experience was pleasant. Never thought that I would like the experience of buying car that much!!!!

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Originally Posted by AK370Z

I'm very sorry to hear what you've went though

. Have you tried contacting our supporting DEALER from The370Z? They will work with you and make sure you get a great deal on your Z

DEALERS: The370Z.com Vendors and Sponsors - Nissan 370Z Forum

Here's a good article. I don't want you to get in any trouble.

NeedforZ · 04-05-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by d02808045

I already got my 40th model through Bankston Nissan of Lewisville.

Bought mine at Bankston too. They were straight forward, quick, and no BS. I'd buy again from them. Can't comment on the service since I've been doing all the oil changes.

nicknick · 04-05-2010, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d02808045

I did get my deposit back, better be else I’ll give them hell

...!!!

what tit me even more were that I contacted their general manager the next day (after about 5 unsuccessful phone calls and numeric voice mails of course), i got through with the general manager but no surprise to me he was a totally **** just like his employees...his words weren't sincere, not even try to apologize, and sound like he doesn't even care about customer services. All he said that they have the same situation 2 or 3 times like that in a month....and repeatedly said it wasn't their fault (at least he try to cover up like that)... I was like, you're kidding me right, so you guys screw about dozen of people 2-3 times like that in a month, and wondering why your dealership is still in business right?...off course he doesn't seem to give a sh#t... and can't wait to get rid of my phone call....I told him that I want a letter of apology from the salesman and the sale manager, and possible from him as well. He promised but I never got any letter from them....except for a few enjoying service reminders from their services department....I ignored most of them but they're just kept coming, so the last time I write on their service letter and send it back telling them to go to hell because I did not buy any **** from them and stop bother me with all the worthless reminders again...haven't seen anything since!!!!!!

Sorry to hear of your bad luck with this dealership, but asking for a letter of apology and recording the whole thing on your phone??? These actions don't sit well.

d02808045 · 04-05-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick

Sorry to hear of your bad luck with this dealership, but asking for a letter of apology and recording the whole thing on your phone??? These actions don't sit well.

Not really want anything from them, just want to see how they response to their "honest mistake", if it really was an "honest mistake" i would have see some form of responses???...about the record, first time ever I went to a deal and being ask permission to record when i sign the financial document, they were the first to do that...

Anyway, just want to wrap this up, want to make the story known. I don't really looking for something, I already got my Z and i'm happy

Thank you all for taking your time out and read through such a novel long story....

Zsteve · 04-05-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick

Sorry to hear of your bad luck with this dealership, but asking for a letter of apology and recording the whole thing on your phone??? These actions don't sit well.

they recorded him so he can record them. They do it fpr protection so we do it for protection. And if Tigers Ho's can ask for an apology than so can he.
Besodes recordong someone can amazingly make things happen in a different way if they know it.

04-04-2010, 09:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4500	Did you get your deposit back? Again post this in the Nissan North America Discussion Board on Facebook and find your regional Nissan Customer Service Rep. and email them too. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs Last edited by PapoZalsa; 04-04-2010 at 07:20 PM.

04-04-2010, 11:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
d02808045 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 94 Drives: 370Z 40th Edition Rep Power: 16	I did get my deposit back, better be else I’ll give them hell...!!! what tit me even more were that I contacted their general manager the next day (after about 5 unsuccessful phone calls and numeric voice mails of course), i got through with the general manager but no surprise to me he was a totally ** just like his employees...his words weren't sincere, not even try to apologize, and sound like he doesn't even care about customer services. All he said that they have the same situation 2 or 3 times like that in a month....and repeatedly said it wasn't their fault (at least he try to cover up like that)... I was like, you're kidding me right, so you guys screw about dozen of people 2-3 times like that in a month, and wondering why your dealership is still in business right?...off course he doesn't seem to give a sh#t... and can't wait to get rid of my phone call....I told him that I want a letter of apology from the salesman and the sale manager, and possible from him as well. He promised but I never got any letter from them....except for a few enjoying service reminders from their services department....I ignored most of them but they're just kept coming, so the last time I write on their service letter and send it back telling them to go to hell because I did not buy any ** from them and stop bother me with all the worthless reminders again...haven't seen anything since!!!!!!

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04-04-2010, 11:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
d02808045 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 94 Drives: 370Z 40th Edition Rep Power: 16	Oh, just a question, I got the whole situation recorded (audio), wondering if it's legal to post up here....