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Originally Posted by Swat Performance Let me ask you a honest question. In order for me to convince you that Top Secret has made one of the best possible Intakes

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Old 04-12-2010, 07:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Let me ask you a honest question. In order for me to convince you that Top Secret has made one of the best possible Intakes on the market, I would have to go buy each of the Intakes you specified, install each one on the same Z, dyno each one and post up the end results, right?
What do you think would happen if my company, Swat Performance, called Injen Technology, Steve Millen at Stillen, HKS and Tanaka and others and told them what I was going to do and if they would be willing to send me one of their Intakes so I could put them on a 370Z and run them against Top Secret to prove that Top Secret has developed the highest quality, fitment and overall gains Intake? Lol.
I think they would say no, but thank you anyways. Do you agree?
I actually think that this is a brilliant idea and if I had the money, would!

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So you think we as consumers are just supposed to take your word that your product is the best of any made? Well get in line becuase if I had a buck for every vendor that has sold me something that just didn't live up to its hype then I could retire!

The way vendors are today with their constant "spinning" of the truth (read as plain down right lying or evasive diatribe) to line their coffers it shouldn't surprise you in the least that people want the facts and not some marketing hype. Its a buyers market at the moment in case you haven't heard. If you think people here have nothing but deep pockets full of cash that you can FLEECE to finance your house, cars, boats, vacations and kids' college education then you have a alot to learn.

If you want to move that stuff you sell then your choices are either:

1. lower your prices to something reasonable (like a 50% reduction in price)

OR

2. sit on your inventory (which you probably don't do because you do a "just-in-time" order to vendor and have them drop ship direct to the consumer..and then you walk off laughing to the bank)

OR

3.

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So you think we as consumers are just supposed to take your word that your product is the best of any made? Well get in line becuase if I had a buck for every vendor that has sold me something that just didn't live up to its hype then I could retire!

The way vendors are today with their constant "spinning" of the truth (read as plain down right lying or evasive diatribe) to line their coffers it shouldn't surprise you in the least that people want the facts and not some marketing hype. Its a buyers market at the moment in case you haven't heard. If you think people here have nothing but deep pockets full of cash and are going to finance your house, car, boat and vacations then you have a alot to learn.

If you want to move that stuff you sell then your choices are either:

1. lower your prices to something reasonable (like a 50% reduction in price)

OR

2. sit on your inventory until you do #1.


OR

3.
Noone is asking you to take his word. If you dont know Top Secret and their accomplishments, you dont have to believe or buy anything.

Like I said, they issue here is price, which is obvious from your post. To answer your questions:
1. "reasonable" is relative. Man, you will get much better results asking nicely for a discount instead of demanding rofl. gg
Perhaps I should adapt this attitude: I DEMAND Lexus sell me an LF-A for 75% off!!!!!!!

2. I think Swat Performance is sold out of Intakes. The few that want Top Secret and can afford it will buy it regardless of what you think. LOL @ dropshipping straight to consumer!!!

3. Really?


XwChriswX, I see your point and it would be supercool to do, I think Baker Nissan made a comparison between TS and Stillen intakes already. Next up should be a performance test between the TS and Greddy twin turbo kits. lol
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XwChriswX, I see your point and it would be supercool to do, I think Baker Nissan made a comparison between TS and Stillen intakes already. Next up should be a performance test between the TS and Greddy twin turbo kits. lol
I hope this is an honest response because that's how I'm going to treat it for now...

That being said, with this intake being posed up against the Stillen, the Stillen is a Long Tube intake, versus a TS Short Tube... I'm pretty sure the numbers will be different, more or less is expected.

I'd just like to see it vs say the HKS or Takada... Which are both short as well.

Like Ive said the whole time, I'm not knocking their product, just merely asking for evidence to support their claim. If their product effectively destroys the competition, then if its the best out there, then I'll pay for it, but I will KNOW its the best. I won't be taking somebody's [The Manufacturers, not Swats] word for it. I don't think that would be too unreasonable...
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So you think we as consumers are just supposed to take your word that your product is the best of any made? Well get in line becuase if I had a buck for every vendor that has sold me something that just didn't live up to its hype then I could retire!

The way vendors are today with their constant "spinning" of the truth (read as plain down right lying or evasive diatribe) to line their coffers it shouldn't surprise you in the least that people want the facts and not some marketing hype. Its a buyers market at the moment in case you haven't heard. If you think people here have nothing but deep pockets full of cash that you can FLEECE to finance your house, cars, boats, vacations and kids' college education then you have a alot to learn.

If you want to move that stuff you sell then your choices are either:

1. lower your prices to something reasonable (like a 50% reduction in price)

OR

2. sit on your inventory (which you probably don't do because you do a "just-in-time" order to vendor and have them drop ship direct to the consumer..and then you walk off laughing to the bank)

OR

3.

I think you're being a little rude.

My take: A product is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. If Smoky has the rep, and the results to back up the rep, who are you to say what the item is worth?

And as for monies spent, I'd have no problem spending the extra cash IF it could be proven that the advertised gains were real. So far I have not seen that proof. So your comments apparently don't include my pockets, which seem to be deeper than yours!

You seem to take the whole thing personally, and that really makes no sense at all. You don't like it, don't buy it. No big deal.
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I think you're being a little rude.

My take: A product is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. If Smoky has the rep, and the results to back up the rep, who are you to say what the item is worth?

And as for monies spent, I'd have no problem spending the extra cash IF it could be proven that the advertised gains were real. So far I have not seen that proof. So your comments apparently don't include my pockets, which seem to be deeper than yours!

You seem to take the whole thing personally, and that really makes no sense at all. You don't like it, don't buy it. No big deal.
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Its a matter of greed and these people exploiting the absense by you people of all sense of what is sensibly economically pragmatic and what is not. It's extreme predatory gouging practices like this that drive inflation up and devalue the US economy. The United States is going down in economic flames because its population has less than a grade school understanding of economics. You people are selling your own country out and you are totally oblivious to see it or understand it OR you all do understand but just don't care...

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Its a matter of greed and these people exploiting the loss by you people of all sense of what is pragmatic and what is not. It's extreme predatory gouging practices like this that feed inflation and devalue the US economy. The United States is going down in economic flames because its population has less than a grade school understanding of economics. You people are selling your own country out and you are totally oblivious to see it or understand it OR you do understand but just don't care...
LMAO, that's hilarious.
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