2012 NFL Thread

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

I know people say hes a great leader cus of what happened in denver. and as a steelers fan I admit.. HE beat us..

but if it werent for the team that denver was and is, he wouldnt have had success there.

To be decent in this league, he will need a team with a strong defense. a strong O line and a good run.. like denver was.

For all his charisma and leadership skills he would not have been able to save the Jets, the Chiefs, the Cardinals etc.

As a lifetime denver fan, you are undervaluing what he added to the team.

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

As a lifetime denver fan, you are undervaluing what he added to the team.

not at all. He made the team that had that better. And it was his throwing and QBing that beat us in the playoffs.

BUT. he wouldnt be able to translate that into one of the teams i mentioned above.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

not at all. He made the team that had that better. And it was his throwing and QBing that beat us in the playoffs.

BUT. he wouldnt be able to translate that into one of the teams i mentioned above.

Not as dramatically, sure, but you could put Brady on the chiefs and he might win three games.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Not as dramatically, sure, but you could put Brady on the chiefs and he might win three games.

Nah you forgot about the defenders getting lost in his eyes

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Not as dramatically, sure, but you could put Brady on the chiefs and he might win three games.

well thats a bad example for me.. because I believe that u put brady behind anything other than a perfect O-Line and hes a whiny lil cryin suck *** QB.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

well thats a bad example for me.. because I believe that u put brady behind anything other than a perfect O-Line and hes a whiny lil cryin suck *** QB.

Most good qb's are, because errybuddy sucks behind a crappy line.

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Most good qb's are, because errybuddy sucks behind a crappy line.

roth. griffin (with some more experience). rodgers and even to a degree eli manning I think would still win games.

Payton and Brady.. would collapse.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

roth. griffin (with some more experience). rodgers and even to a degree eli manning I think would still win games.

Payton and Brady.. would collapse.

But honestly their lines aren't that bad.

In the case of some of those guys, they make their lines look worse than they are.