2012 NFL Thread

[dastaco]

I wouldn't say that, I can't think of many games where the refs directly affected the outcome. Some of your homer fans might agree, but they are usually just local team fanboys anyway.

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by dastaco

I wouldn't say that, I can't think of many games where the refs directly affected the outcome. Some of your homer fans might agree, but they are usually just local team fanboys anyway.

well see your interpretation of directly affected the outcome is false.

on the drive where Greenbay scored the TD, they were granted a PI call that was ********.

Without that their drive would have stalled and them punted.

So Seattle would not have even needed this hailmary play to win.

[dastaco]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

well see your interpretation of directly affected the outcome is false.

on the drive where Greenbay scored the TD, they were granted a PI call that was ********.

Without that their drive would have stalled and them punted.

So Seattle would not have even needed this hailmary play to win.

When a ref blows a TD/Int call with 0 seconds left on the clock.. that is directly affecting the outcome of the game. The fact that they screwed up a bunch of other calls before that just indicates that they had no business officiating the game.

Moral of the story, get the real refs back. The game is suffering badly and it needs to be fixed.

[bdavis89]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

on the drive where Greenbay scored the TD, they were granted a PI call that was ********.

Without that their drive would have stalled and them punted.

So Seattle would not have even needed this hailmary play to win.

The problem is you don't KNOW that the drive would have stalled. Unless it was 3rd down, in which I retract that statement. Green bay was moving the ball in the second half. That call didn't directly affect the outcome the same way the call on the final play did.

And what about the pass interference on Sydney Rice that was actually called on the packers player? Rice was jumping over the guy, all over his back, and they call PI on the packer DB, who had his head turned for a good 5 seconds and was playing the ball. That was garbage, and forced a punt I think?

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by bdavis89

The problem is you don't KNOW that the drive would have stalled. Unless it was 3rd down, in which I retract that statement. Green bay was moving the ball in the second half. That call didn't directly affect the outcome the same way the call on the final play did.

And what about the pass interference on Sydney Rice that was actually called on the packers player? That was garbage, and forced a punt I think?

It was 3rd down iirc, but nothing in the rulebook says they can't go for it on 4th.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by dastaco

When a ref blows a TD/Int call with 0 seconds left on the clock.. that is directly affecting the outcome of the game. The fact that they screwed up a bunch of other calls before that just indicates that they had no business officiating the game.

Moral of the story, get the real refs back. The game is suffering badly and it needs to be fixed.

Originally Posted by shadoquad

This is true, which is why I've said again and again, I'm not mad at the Hawks. It's not like they cheated. I'm mad at the bad officiating, due to the NFL and the Referee union. Every team has been given the advantage of a few bad calls, but there is a scale to each bad call. Neither of these bad calls should have happened. Even if GB doesn't get the good call, they may have taken the lead on that drive, or the may not have. We don't get to speculate, because the game is tainted by undertrained personnel.

Originally Posted by shadoquad

It was 3rd down iirc, but nothing in the rulebook says they can't go for it on 4th.

Exactly. I mean GB already has a fake punt/FG for a TD this season.

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by bdavis89

The problem is you don't KNOW that the drive would have stalled. Unless it was 3rd down, in which I retract that statement. Green bay was moving the ball in the second half. That call didn't directly affect the outcome the same way the call on the final play did.

And what about the pass interference on Sydney Rice that was actually called on the packers player? Rice was jumping over the guy, all over his back, and they call PI on the packer DB, who had his head turned for a good 5 seconds and was playing the ball. That was garbage, and forced a punt I think?

thats my point.. there are alot of calls that would have directly changed the game.

If the call for PI wasnt given to the packers, their drive would have stalled (3rd down)

If the call for PI wasnt given to the seahawks, their drive would have stalled and they would have lost earlier.

etc..

So many bad calls changed the game that this one final call wasnt the one that decided the game per say. Everything that happens DURING the game, decides the outcome of the game.

With different calls in the game it could have been 34-10 packers leading and then the last touchdown would have made it 34-17 (theoretical)