2012 NFL Thread

[dastaco]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

well see your interpretation of directly affected the outcome is false.

on the drive where Greenbay scored the TD, they were granted a PI call that was ********.

Without that their drive would have stalled and them punted.

So Seattle would not have even needed this hailmary play to win.

When a ref blows a TD/Int call with 0 seconds left on the clock.. that is directly affecting the outcome of the game. The fact that they screwed up a bunch of other calls before that just indicates that they had no business officiating the game.

Moral of the story, get the real refs back. The game is suffering badly and it needs to be fixed.

[bdavis89]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

on the drive where Greenbay scored the TD, they were granted a PI call that was ********.

Without that their drive would have stalled and them punted.

So Seattle would not have even needed this hailmary play to win.

The problem is you don't KNOW that the drive would have stalled. Unless it was 3rd down, in which I retract that statement. Green bay was moving the ball in the second half. That call didn't directly affect the outcome the same way the call on the final play did.

And what about the pass interference on Sydney Rice that was actually called on the packers player? Rice was jumping over the guy, all over his back, and they call PI on the packer DB, who had his head turned for a good 5 seconds and was playing the ball. That was garbage, and forced a punt I think?

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by bdavis89

The problem is you don't KNOW that the drive would have stalled. Unless it was 3rd down, in which I retract that statement. Green bay was moving the ball in the second half. That call didn't directly affect the outcome the same way the call on the final play did.

And what about the pass interference on Sydney Rice that was actually called on the packers player? That was garbage, and forced a punt I think?

It was 3rd down iirc, but nothing in the rulebook says they can't go for it on 4th.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by dastaco

When a ref blows a TD/Int call with 0 seconds left on the clock.. that is directly affecting the outcome of the game. The fact that they screwed up a bunch of other calls before that just indicates that they had no business officiating the game.

Moral of the story, get the real refs back. The game is suffering badly and it needs to be fixed.

Originally Posted by shadoquad

This is true, which is why I've said again and again, I'm not mad at the Hawks. It's not like they cheated. I'm mad at the bad officiating, due to the NFL and the Referee union. Every team has been given the advantage of a few bad calls, but there is a scale to each bad call. Neither of these bad calls should have happened. Even if GB doesn't get the good call, they may have taken the lead on that drive, or the may not have. We don't get to speculate, because the game is tainted by undertrained personnel.

Originally Posted by shadoquad

It was 3rd down iirc, but nothing in the rulebook says they can't go for it on 4th.

Exactly. I mean GB already has a fake punt/FG for a TD this season.

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by bdavis89

The problem is you don't KNOW that the drive would have stalled. Unless it was 3rd down, in which I retract that statement. Green bay was moving the ball in the second half. That call didn't directly affect the outcome the same way the call on the final play did.

And what about the pass interference on Sydney Rice that was actually called on the packers player? Rice was jumping over the guy, all over his back, and they call PI on the packer DB, who had his head turned for a good 5 seconds and was playing the ball. That was garbage, and forced a punt I think?

thats my point.. there are alot of calls that would have directly changed the game.

If the call for PI wasnt given to the packers, their drive would have stalled (3rd down)

If the call for PI wasnt given to the seahawks, their drive would have stalled and they would have lost earlier.

etc..

So many bad calls changed the game that this one final call wasnt the one that decided the game per say. Everything that happens DURING the game, decides the outcome of the game.

With different calls in the game it could have been 34-10 packers leading and then the last touchdown would have made it 34-17 (theoretical)

[Xplicit97]

I'm a Hawks fan, I don't see anything wrong with the call.. Lol. The way I see it is that the Hawks were finally on the winning side of a "questionable" call. Those of us in Seattle still remember being robbed in Superbowl XL.. Steelers told us to suck it up and deal with it. So sorry Greenbay and your fans.. It's your turn to suck it up put your big girl panties on and deal with it.. That being said I'm pretty sure the "12th man" wouldn't of allowed that call to go against them.. Just be glad it wasn't a bowl game people

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

on the drive where Greenbay scored the TD, they were granted a PI call that was ********.

This is true, which is why I've said again and again, I'm not mad at the Hawks. It's not like they cheated. I'm mad at the bad officiating, due to the NFL and the Referee union. Every team has been given the advantage of a few bad calls, but there is a scale to each bad call. Neither of these bad calls should have happened. Even if GB doesn't get the good call, they may have taken the lead on that drive, or the may not have. We don't get to speculate, because the game is tainted by undertrained personnel.

Originally Posted by Xplicit97

I'm a Hawks fan, I don't see anything wrong with the call.. Lol. The way I see it is that the Hawks were finally on the winning side of a "questionable" call. Those of us in Seattle still remember being robbed in Superbowl XL.. Steelers told us to suck it up and deal with it. So sorry Greenbay and your fans.. It's your turn to suck it up put your big girl panties on and deal with it.. That being said I'm pretty sure the "12th man" wouldn't of allowed that call to go against them.. Just be glad it wasn't a bowl game people

Ah, the old "sink down to their level" defense. Classic.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Yeah I'm more angry at the fact that the NFL and the NFLRA haven't come to an agreement yet. The replacements are clearly undertrained and having difficulty keeping up with the pace of NFL games, but they are doing the best they can. As much as the NFL talks about protecting player safety and the integrity of the game, they've proven without a doubt that they only care about money. Even if they did give in to the demands of the NFLRA, that money is a drop in the bucket compared to how much the NFL is pulling in.

[Nismo89]

found this interesting and funny article.. about our "officials" right now.... they were fired before!...read more to find out!

Lingerie Football League commissioner mocks NFL for its low officiating standards - Yahoo! Sports

[shadoquad]

Fact is, daisuke and all of Steeler Nation could probably be shouting the loudest. In the last two weeks, two of the most egregious calls/non-calls happened against Pittsburgh, and I say that hating their living guts.

You had the PI call where the Steelers CB was clearly nowhere near the receiver, and this last week you had the missed call on the dangerous chop block that could have seriously injured a Steelers lineman. Of course, the non-call on the helmet-to-helmet hit on Darrius Heyward-Bey was also horrendous, but still.

[b1adesofcha0s]

I think Aaron Rodgers says it best here:

Aaron Rodgers blasts NFL over Green Bay Packers' loss - NFL.com

[Nismo89]

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by Nismo89

I'll be looking for Ashton Kutcher in the next game

[b1adesofcha0s]

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