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b1adesofcha0s 07-09-2012 03:43 PM

Yeah the card itself was pretty disappointing, but it was worth it to me as a Silva fan boy to see him finally shut Sonnen up. Jones vs Hendo will probably be the next fight I pay to see as well.

shadoquad 07-09-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1813317)
Yeah the card itself was pretty disappointing, but it was worth it to me as a Silva fan boy to see him finally shut Sonnen up. Jones vs Hendo will probably be the next fight I pay to see as well.

It wasn't the worst event I've ever seen. I enjoyed watching the Silva fight. I like when fights are finished.

Biggest disappointments were the stand-up fights where they did nothing but dance, such as the one with the "Hulk" guy.

Forrest-Tito had a bizarre ending, and they got gassed, but at least the first round was all-out action.

b1adesofcha0s 07-09-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1813339)
It wasn't the worst event I've ever seen. I enjoyed watching the Silva fight. I like when fights are finished.

Biggest disappointments were the stand-up fights where they did nothing but dance, such as the one with the "Hulk" guy.

Forrest-Tito had a bizarre ending, and they got gassed, but at least the first round was all-out action.

Agreed on all points. I think it's because the good fights were pretty short which made it seem like the card wasn't as great. There were 2 KOs that lasted less than a minute each while the boring fights dragged on for the full 15.

speedfreek 07-09-2012 03:59 PM

Ive watched for years to know you have to take the good with the bad. It's just with the hype I wanted something spectacular to happen (like Pettis cage-walking on Benson for the TKO finish). I am also sour that Sonnen didn't pull off the upset yet again and this time didn't even get close. Unless they make the Silva vs Jones fight (if Jones gets passed Hendo). Then the only fight I can see being worthwhile is a Belfort rematch....that insane kick finished the fight so soon Belfort never got going. Not saying it couldn't happen again but they say lightening doesn't strike twice.

b1adesofcha0s 07-10-2012 09:20 PM

Seriously? :shakes head:

Chael Sonnen?s Manager Files Appeal with NSAC, Demands Rematch with Anderson Siva: Fan Reaction - Yahoo! Sports

Sibze 07-11-2012 09:29 PM

Anyone watching now?

b1adesofcha0s 07-11-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1817198)
Anyone watching now?

I don't haz Fuel TV, so no :(

b1adesofcha0s 07-12-2012 11:28 AM

I'll have to download the fight to watch it later, but it seems like Weidman dominated Munoz and called out Silva afterwards. He says he will follow Sonnen's blueprint, but finish the fight against Silva with a submission. :rofl2:

In other news, the coaches on the next season of TUF will be Shane Carwin and Roy Nelson. I'm pretty disappointed with this choice, it doesn't seem all that interesting to me.

speedfreek 07-12-2012 11:31 AM

Great we have to watch Big Boy eat a whopper every episode. Fantastic!:shakes head:

Sibze 07-12-2012 11:32 AM

After watching Weidman take out Munoz. I think he has an OK shot with Silva. The one thing that Weidman will have to get over though is he stands and fights for a little while before he took Munoz down. If he wants to beat Silva, he will need to take Silva down before Silva knocks him out

MC 07-12-2012 12:24 PM

na lombard if he runs though tim boetch like expected i think should be #1 contender i think its a more fan friendly fight and can be hyped up more
he is sort of an unknown with 26 fight winning streak with that KO power.

weidman needs to fight the winner of belcher/ bisping before a shot as a 185 eliminator match

what he did last night was impressive.. i sort of felt bad for munoz he is such a good guy and i think he took a few too many shots there at the end before rosenthal called the fight

b1adesofcha0s 07-12-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 1817947)
Great we have to watch Big Boy eat a whopper every episode. Fantastic!:shakes head:

The fight doesn't seem very exciting either. Either Carwin is going to use Nelson as a punching bag for 3 rounds or Nelson is going to catch Carwin with a big punch.

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1817950)
After watching Weidman take out Munoz. I think he has an OK shot with Silva. The one thing that Weidman will have to get over though is he stands and fights for a little while before he took Munoz down. If he wants to beat Silva, he will need to take Silva down before Silva knocks him out

I'll have to see the fight for myself, but I don't see anyone having much of a chance against Silva.

b1adesofcha0s 07-12-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 1818091)
na lombard if he runs though tim boetch like expected i think should be #1 contender i think its a more fan friendly fight and can be hyped up more
he is sort of an unknown with 26 fight winning streak with that KO power.

weidman needs to fight the winner of belcher/ bisping before a shot as a 185 eliminator match

what he did last night was impressive.. i sort of felt bad for munoz he is such a good guy and i think he took a few too many shots there at the end before rosenthal called the fight

Same here. Haven't really watched any of Lombard's fights, but I saw some highlights on YouTube and he looks pretty impressive. His record is pretty impressive as well, but we'll have to see how he does with UFC level competition. I'd like to see Lombard vs Belfort and have the winner of that get the next shot at Silva. That would be an exciting fight.

Sibze 07-12-2012 01:09 PM

I want to see Silva loose a fight. His last couple fights have not been good.

b1adesofcha0s 07-12-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1818181)
I want to see Silva loose a fight. His last couple fights have not been good.

Screw you man! Silva is retiring undefeated! :p

What was so bad about this last fight? Sure he got taken down in the 1st round, but he came back in Silva style and dominated to put Sonnen away in the 2nd. He finished Okami in his previous fight and had a highlight reel KO against Belfort in the one before that. Got dominated in the last fight against Sonnen, but then still won the fight with arguably the biggest comeback in UFC history. The Maia fight before that was lame, but he completely dominated Griffin in the fight before that. That's about far back as I've seen his fights other than the Henderson fight and the 2 fights with Franklin.

Haters gonna hate I guess.

Sibze 07-12-2012 01:22 PM

Ya you could probably call me a Silva hater. I donno, I just think he was cheap in the last fight. He held onto the shorts a lot, also looking at all the slow mo's and stills on the internet I think that knee hit him in the chin.

Don't get me wrong, I think he is amazing but... I donno I'd like to see something happen.

Edit: Looks like the knee hits the chest but the the leg gets him in the face

http://cagejunkies.com/wp-content/up...nencloseup.gif

b1adesofcha0s 07-12-2012 01:28 PM

Yeah the knee definitely hit the chest, but his thigh touched Sonnen in the head. I don't think he was any more cheap than any other fighter. I saw Sonnen grabbing Silva's shorts too, but it wasn't quite as obvious. Silva also pointed out to the ref in the first round that he got hit in the back of the head. Have to go back and watch it again to see if it actually happened, but that could be considered Sonnen being cheap.

Silva's fights are definitely more exciting than GSP. I think I feel the same way about GSP as you do about Silva. He's an awesome fighter and I like him, but I do want to see him lose.

So who's your favorite fighter Sibze? As you can tell mine is Anderson Silva :icon17:

speedfreek 07-12-2012 01:43 PM

If there is one I want to see lose their reign more than Silva it is GSP. In his robot voice, " I was not impressed with your performance." I can't recall the last time his fights were exciting. I never buy a GSP card anymore if that tells you anything. What sucks is Condit is waiting to fight him instead of putting the interim belt on the line which is what it is designed to do. Instead both belts are iced until GSP heals and can fight maybe by December...maybe. IMO he should have to fight Jake Ellenberger for #1 contender status instead. I would rather see Ellenberger or Hendricks become #1 contender since we don't get to see Diaz fight GSP. Condit may have one on points with his hit and run technique but he definately never threatened Diaz. GSP is going to take Condit down and lay on him for 5 rounds.

b1adesofcha0s 07-12-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 1818246)
If there is one I want to see lose their reign more than Silva it is GSP. In his robot voice, " I was not impressed with your performance." I can't recall the last time his fights were exciting. I never buy a GSP card anymore if that tells you anything. What sucks is Condit is waiting to fight him instead of putting the interim belt on the line which is what it is designed to do. Instead both belts are iced until GSP heals and can fight maybe by December...maybe. IMO he should have to fight Jake Ellenberger for #1 contender status instead. I would rather see Ellenberger or Hendricks become #1 contender since we don't get to see Diaz fight GSP. Condit may have one on points with his hit and run technique but he definately never threatened Diaz. GSP is going to take Condit down and lay on him for 5 rounds.

Condit said in an interview that the UFC hasn't contacted him about potentially fighting anyone else while he's waiting for GSP. I'm assuming they're just gonna wait and see how GSP's recovery goes. If everything's on track they'll have the fight in November. If it gets delayed then they'll probably have Condit fight for the interim title on the same card against someone else. I think Kampmann and Hendricks should fight to see who gets the next title shot after Condit vs GSP. Ellenberger just got KO'd by Kampmann so he definitely shouldn't be considered for a title shot.

GSP couldn't or wouldn't finish Koshcheck when he was fighting with basically one eye for the entire fight. He also looked like crap against Jake Shields in a fight he should have dominated and never be anywhere near that close. That's my biggest issue with GSP, he doesn't finish fights. Just lay and pray to get the judge's decision.

speedfreek 07-12-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1818251)
Condit said in an interview that the UFC hasn't contacted him about potentially fighting anyone else while he's waiting for GSP. I'm assuming they're just gonna wait and see how GSP's recovery goes. If everything's on track they'll have the fight in November. If it gets delayed then they'll probably have Condit fight for the interim title on the same card against someone else. I think Kampmann and Hendricks should fight to see who gets the next title shot after Condit vs GSP. Ellenberger just got KO'd by Kampmann so he definitely shouldn't be considered for a title shot.

GSP couldn't or wouldn't finish Koshcheck when he was fighting with basically one eye for the entire fight. He also looked like crap against Jake Shields in a fight he should have dominated and never be anywhere near that close. That's my biggest issue with GSP, he doesn't finish fights. Just lay and pray to get the judge's decision.

Crap I meant Kampmann. I think either Kampmann or Hendricks should get the fight against Condit for #1 contender. If Condit loses to either of those just means he would held the title for maybe one fight if he could even beat GSP. I will be pulling for Hendricks. Fear the Beard! I don't see why you ice the iterim belt. It is supposed to keep the weight class active with title fights. Then when the champ is healed he comes in and fights to unify the two belts. Condit requested to wait for GSP and so far they have accepted his wishes.

Thats why I hate GSP and Frankie Edgar. They win on points and never threaten to finish not even a glimpse. Instead in Edgar's case he is always threatened to be put away but has an iron chin or something and somehow out points the other fighter to win the decision or draw for the 100th time and beg for a rematch.

b1adesofcha0s 07-12-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 1818270)
Crap I meant Kampmann. I think either Kampmann or Hendricks should get the fight against Condit for #1 contender. If Condit loses to either of those just means he would held the title for maybe one fight if he could even beat GSP. I will be pulling for Hendricks. Fear the Beard! I don't see why you ice the iterim belt. It is supposed to keep the weight class active with title fights. Then when the champ is healed he comes in and fights to unify the two belts. Condit requested to wait for GSP and so far they have accepted his wishes.

Thats why I hate GSP and Frankie Edgar. They win on points and never threaten to finish not even a glimpse. Instead in Edgar's case he is always threatened to be put away but has an iron chin or something and somehow out points the other fighter to win the decision or draw for the 100th time and beg for a rematch.

I'd rather see Kampmann vs Hendricks while we're waiting for Condit vs GSP. The fact is that GSP is one of the UFC's biggest stars and they desperately need him back ASAP. They probably don't want anything getting in the way of that fight because of the way everyone's been getting injured lately.

Sibze 07-12-2012 02:05 PM

I think GSP is boring as effffff to watch. Love that he is Canadian though.

Dos Sontos is a cool guy. Don't think he'll have the belt for tooo long but I think he's a stand up guy

b1adesofcha0s 07-12-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1818285)
I think GSP is boring as effffff to watch. Love that he is Canadian though.

Dos Sontos is a cool guy. Don't think he'll have the belt for tooo long but I think he's a stand up guy

His damn Canadian politeness keeps him from being able to finish fights :bowrofl:

I can see Dos Santos holding the belt for a while, especially if he gets past Velasquez in their rematch.

Sibze 07-12-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1818290)
His damn Canadian politeness keeps him from being able to finish fights :bowrofl:

I can see Dos Santos holding the belt for a while, especially if he gets past Velasquez in their rematch.

I don't see him beating Overeem

speedfreek 07-12-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1818279)
I'd rather see Kampmann vs Hendricks while we're waiting for Condit vs GSP. The fact is that GSP is one of the UFC's biggest stars and they desperately need him back ASAP. They probably don't want anything getting in the way of that fight because of the way everyone's been getting injured lately.

True, I see where they would want to keep a fight lined up for him. But I think they have enough time to fight Condit vs #1 contender and winner waits on GSP. Nothing says GSP comes back November but is injured in camp and fight pushed to Spring. Then Condit will be sitting for a year. That would backfire on him. Passing up pay days to wait that long. But there are other good fights to watch til then.

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1818285)
I think GSP is boring as effffff to watch. Love that he is Canadian though.

Dos Sontos is a cool guy. Don't think he'll have the belt for tooo long but I think he's a stand up guy

Who do you see Dos Santos losing too? Overeem has a shot with his roided up self. But Dos Santos has the best hands at Heavyweight. Velasquez if he would of done what he should of and had a game plan like Sonnen did vs Silva and put him on his back he would have a chance long as he doesnt get submitted.

Sibze 07-12-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 1818295)
Who do you see Dos Santos losing too? Overeem has a shot with his roided up self. But Dos Santos has the best hands at Heavyweight. Velasquez if he would of done what he should of and had a game plan like Sonnen did vs Silva and put him on his back he would have a chance long as he doesnt get submitted.

The heavy belt seems to move around a lot. It's a slut

b1adesofcha0s 07-12-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1818292)
I don't see him beating Overeem

I do, especially when he gets off those steroids.

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Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 1818295)
True, I see where they would want to keep a fight lined up for him. But I think they have enough time to fight Condit vs #1 contender and winner waits on GSP. Nothing says GSP comes back November but is injured in camp and fight pushed to Spring. Then Condit will be sitting for a year. That would backfire on him. Passing up pay days to wait that long. But there are other good fights to watch til then.



Who do you see Dos Santos losing too? Overeem has a shot with his roided up self. But Dos Santos has the best hands at Heavyweight. Velasquez if he would of done what he should of and had a game plan like Sonnen did vs Silva and put him on his back he would have a chance long as he doesnt get submitted.

That's why I was saying they should have Hendricks vs Kampmann soon. If GSP gets injured then they can have Condit fight the winner of that fight at the end of the year or beginning of next year. Then GSP can come back next spring.

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1818299)
The heavy belt seems to move around a lot. It's a slut

So was the LHW belt......till it found Jon Jones.

Sibze 07-12-2012 03:39 PM

Silva vs. Jones
Silva vs. GSP

Who wins???? I personally think Silva wins both. IF IF IF IF GSP could get him on the ground MAYBE he could get lucky and submit him but GSP is all about outlasting people and scoring points. Silva won't let you do that...

Jones I think would be a more interesting fight but Jones' strength is standing and that's Silva's game. As long as Silva could overcome the reach I don't think Silva would have a hard time beating Jones. HOWEVER, IF Jones was able to get Silva down and use those INSANE elbows it could get interesting…

MC 07-12-2012 03:53 PM

silva wins both GSP would have to take him down to have a chance standing up it would get ugly... with jones i bet jones would engage him and nd even machida showed he can be hit when pressured in situations like that ....so i think silva would wait for a mistake with one of jones flashy strikes and go in for the kill. i think he is unbeatable unless he fought an elite heavyweight and even then who knows... best tactic is seems is to smother him you give him any space and let him get in that fluid guard down stance and its over

but if you watched the press conference last week he said he wouldnt fight jones .

and GSP doesnt seem real motivated to fight him either sadly

Sibze 07-12-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 1818492)
silva wins both GSP would have to take him down to have a chance standing up it would get ugly... with jones i bet jones would fight him straight up and even machida should he can be hit when pressured so i think silva would wait for a mistake with one of his flashy strikes and go in for the kill i think he is unbeatable unless he fought an elite heavyweight and even then who knows...

but if you watched the press conference last week he said he wouldnt fight jones and GSP doesnt seem real motivated to fight him either sadly

Ya, he said he wouldn't but White isn't ruling out Jones. I don't think GSP vs Silva will ever be done.

Jones has to get through Dan in his next fight as well. Which I think will be a good fight

MC 07-12-2012 04:04 PM

i think dan vs jones will be a good fight for 1-2 rounds.... he needs to say **** it and come out like he did against fedor.... he is lethal early but look at the sheilds and shogun fights.. when he cant take the guy out he seems to run out of steam. and against jones that could go bad for him real fast if he tries to lay back and have a gameplan... it will look a lot like the rampage fight where jones just started to pick him a part.....so i say come out hard in the first round and see what happens with the H bomb he really has nothing to loose at this point in his career

shadoquad 07-12-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1818500)
Ya, he said he wouldn't but White isn't ruling out Jones. I don't think GSP vs Silva will ever be done.

Jones has to get through Dan in his next fight as well. Which I think will be a good fight

On paper, Jones has everything on Hendo.

But what Hendo has is that mean goodnight punch. If he lands that sucker, it doesn't matter who he's up against.

If he connects and it clicks like Bisping... We could have a new champ.

But first he's got to connect.

b1adesofcha0s 07-12-2012 04:25 PM

Yeah I think Silva would beat both Jones and GSP. If Jones can get Silva on the ground and keep him there, he could finish the fight with those nasty elbows. I think Silva vs GSP will happen next year and is much more likely to happen than Silva vs Jones.

If Hendo doesn't land that H bomb in the 1st 2 rounds, then Jones will finish the fight in the later rounds.

CBRich 07-13-2012 08:50 AM

Scumbag MMA Fan

http://www.the370z.com/members/cbric...ag-mma-fan.jpg

Scumbag Steve - hates gsp for not finishing koschek when koschek only had on

b1adesofcha0s 07-13-2012 09:06 AM

:icon18:

Sibze 07-13-2012 11:27 AM

I ahte GSP because he doesn't finish anyone lol!

Sibze 07-13-2012 11:29 AM

Lmfao!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_9lFnD6GVl4...+Griffin+1.gif

Sibze 07-13-2012 11:35 AM

Griffin did really well

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_as...vrveop_jpg.gif

shadoquad 07-13-2012 12:59 PM

Yeah, I saw that match live. one of the most uneven, wild fights I've ever seen.

b1adesofcha0s 07-13-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1820065)
Yeah, I saw that match live. one of the most uneven, wild fights I've ever seen.

:iagree:

That first gif is what Anderson Silva vision must look like. He's like lol you're trying to punch me, let me slowly slide out of the way. :p


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