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Old 03-30-2022, 04:20 PM   #241 (permalink)
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Maybe F1 should look into the games played by Red Bull's lead driver behind the safety car, too!

If it weren't for Charles being a decent guy, one touch of the brake pedal would have had Max pass under the double waived yellows and get at least a 5 second penalty.

Honestly, Max played the same game with Lewis in Abu Dhabi and I'm still amazed that Lewis didn't brake really hard when the Red Bull was right along side.
As long as this stays very very close - we will see this wonderful, its great and we love each other as F1 competitors die very soon and Charles will hopefully defeat Max in some nice creative ways. Then we will hear Horner more and more just like he talked about Mercedes. This 'niceness' we see is a joke.
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LMAO, the love fest is only because MB is not part of the mix and if Ferrari can maintain or win more than RB, game on. Secondly, you will never see a multiple time world champion be so lovey dovey with a competitor, unless it is a newbie or someone that just had a great race. If you are contender, they will congratulate you out of courtesy and move on. The opposition is the enemy period!

Also, that side by side thing hasn't really worked the best for Max. Both Lewis and Charles got the jump on him each time. Charles has pinned him on the short side of the track both times and in a fair fight, Lewis on red tires would have run away from him. You got to time your jump perfectly because the lead car is in control. They simply slow and go. The sided by side car has to respond to both moves and is on the back foot.

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LMAO, the love fest is only because MB is not part of the mix and if Ferrari can maintain or win more than RB, game on. Secondly, you will never see a multiple time world champion be so lovey dovey with a competitor, unless it is a newbie or someone that just had a great race. If you are contender, they will congratulate you out of courtesy and move on. The opposition is the enemy period!

Also, that side by side thing hasn't really worked the best for Max. Both Lewis and Charles got the jump on him each time. Charles has pinned him on the short side of the track both times and in a fair fight, Lewis on red tires would have run away from him. You got to time your jump perfectly because the lead car is in control. They simply slow and go. The sided by side car has to respond to both moves and is on the back foot.

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Max has limited tools. He is an idiot at times. So he goes side by side and allows the driver in P3 an easy block on him as P3 can draft the leader potentially.

He has a title that was GIFTED to him. He wants to forget that. I will not ever forget it LOL. The new rules dis-allow his only true skill = brake late, dive and block. He has about as much finesse as a ancient Russian battle tank burning in Ukraine LOL
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I just love we are having different conversations about how people race instead of how unfair and boring F1 is with Mercedes just needing to finish to win. This is shaping up to be an exciting year where team/driver strategy and true skill will be seen in a new light.


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It's official. Las Vegas night race here we come! A fast, 6.2 km track on the strip.
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Define skill, all the F1 drivers are skilled. Some are more so than others, but the driver with the fastest car has the best chance of winning. K Mag is great example. Look at Ocon and Alonzo. If either one had the fastest car on the Grid they would be finishing first or second. Strategy will also be key for the for the front running teams.

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Pinnacle of skill, this is F1 best of the best in the world, cars are a lot more even this year, not equal but closer than they have been in almost a decade. Was Bottas good the last few years only because he was in a Mercedes, well in an alpha he’s been looking good, sainz, perez really getting to see how they handle a car capable of winning where before they were just middle of the pack.


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Pinnacle of skill, this is F1 best of the best in the world, cars are a lot more even this year, not equal but closer than they have been in almost a decade. Was Bottas good the last few years only because he was in a Mercedes, well in an alpha he’s been looking good, sainz, perez really getting to see how they handle a car capable of winning where before they were just middle of the pack.


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My point exactly! A lot of skilled drivers and yes more of the cars are evenly paced.

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Vegas is going to be f-ing sick. F the layout, ripping down the strip is enough.
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Maybe F1 should look into the games played by Red Bull's lead driver behind the safety car, too!

If it weren't for Charles being a decent guy, one touch of the brake pedal would have had Max pass under the double waived yellows and get at least a 5 second penalty.

Honestly, Max played the same game with Lewis in Abu Dhabi and I'm still amazed that Lewis didn't brake really hard when the Red Bull was right along side.

I'm late to this topic, but I happened to see that clip again, and i think Max did just slightly overtake Lewis at one point

but that was NEVER going to be called after that SC stunt they pulled off.
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Pinnacle of skill, this is F1 best of the best in the world...
Not so sure about that part.
No disputing their talents, but the selection process is pretty limited. The best of the best of the Euro karting league who had the wherewithal to go on to Formula racing (which is still pretty damn good about 17 or 18 times out of 20, and we know who those 2 or 3 exceptions are!!!) is a more apt description.
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Marko: Red Bull likely to lose Gasly if it can’t offer senior F1 team return

Helmut Marko has acknowledged Red Bull is likely to lose Pierre Gasly once his Formula 1 contract is up if it cannot offer him a return to its senior team.
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Helmut Marko has acknowledged Red Bull is likely to lose Pierre Gasly once his Formula 1 contract is up if it cannot offer him a return to its senior team.
I’d get where he is coming from, but doubt he’ll find as good a car available to him in another team.
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I’d get where he is coming from, but doubt he’ll find as good a car available to him in another team.
I dont see Gasly returning unless Perez 'melts' down. Gasly will find a better ride in terms not being under the idiot Marko's thumb. I see Vettel's seat opening up. They need a young racer like Gasly there potentially. Experienced and with technical knowledge. He would have no issues out driving Lance and might actually help the team a bit.

He would fit well at Mclaren but they are drifting and I dont see Ricci leaving. Not much open anywhere else. If Alonso leaves etc. Will be interesting to follow his path out of RedBull shite.
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