2021 Formula 1 Thread

God-Speed · 05-09-2021, 06:55 AM

100 Pole for Hamilton. What an accomplishment.

DLSTR · 05-09-2021, 07:55 AM

Happy Race Day!!

danegrey · 05-09-2021, 07:19 PM

exciting race today, not sure what to say, but Hamilton did it again.
Verstappen, got the lead at the first corner, and then the tire strategy came in to play.
But Hamilton came from 22 seconds back to win. It at least was an interesting race.

So 4 races are in the books, my thoughts
-- maybe Max is the only one that can drive the Red Bull car, Perez was good in the race but was too far behind in qualification. (Note: he was not feeling well on Saturday). So hopeful the next couple of weeks will tell.
-- Ocon - has taken up the challenge over Alonso, hope it continues
-- Stroll seems to be improving, thou the Aston Martin is now behind.
-- Tsunoda - well someone please slow him down, too hard on himself and tries too hard and his car just stopping today did not help
-- Ferrari, is getting it right, and the two team mates seem matched.
-- Mick Schumacher - might have it, seems to do all the right things and stays out of trouble
-- McLaren - not sure, kind a mix feelings right now, getting close...

just my thoughts

axmea? · 05-09-2021, 10:00 PM

Red Bull caught with their pants down once again. It's giving me a headache.

Ventruck · 05-10-2021, 01:54 AM

I don't know if we can really fault Red Bull, or just hold higher regard for how well Mercedes and Hamilton execute their plans. One can make up for the other when something doesn't go perfect.

It's pretty much a sport where the race is won before it starts — which does take away from the sense of grit and heroic competition, but when we're talking being the absolute fastest, this is how it just looks. Lewis always had pace on his side despite how Verstappen looked early in the race.

alcheng · 05-10-2021, 10:44 AM

Reb Bull got beaten/tricked by the same trick their opponent used 2 years ago.

they should have reacted to this differently rather than just keeping verstappen out there and become a rabbit.

ZCanadian · 05-10-2021, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng

Reb Bull got beaten/tricked by the same trick their opponent used 2 years ago.

they should have reacted to this differently rather than just keeping verstappen out there and become a rabbit.

Not having another set of new medium tires in the garage, their options were limited. Not sure what scenario RB would have come out ahead with. MB nailed it again on strategy, and Horner needs to start taking some of the blame.

Really had to laugh at the SC a half dozen laps in, after Max killed his tires trying to establish a lead at the start of the race. It's like Hamilton knew it was coming. Lewis is a supremely talented driver in the best car on the grid, but he has more luck than anyone has a right to get.

Bottas - was he in the same race? They had to keep telling him to pull the finger out, and nothing happened. Not sure what's going on there.

Charles continues to impress, bringing the car home in way higher positions than it really should get. Last year, it was mainly down to him. This year, the team has had a chance to regroup, and both LeClerc and Sainz are finally getting some support. But wait for Ferrari to fold in the clinch, as they don't have the strategy to support better placings.

Finally, WTF is wrong with Alfa Romeo's garage? Seriously, you have ONE job o do. Inflate the bloody tires. They screw up so predictably, it's beyond Keystone Cops anymore.

danegrey · 05-11-2021, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Finally, WTF is wrong with Alfa Romeo's garage? Seriously, you have ONE job o do. Inflate the bloody tires. They screw up so predictably, it's beyond Keystone Cops anymore.

Word is the value stem got hosed somehow.... so someone made an opps... good side, they caught it before sending him out

danegrey · 05-11-2021, 11:33 AM

in hindsight, should MAX had past Hamilton or just stayed behind...
Interesting, the real question is how much did Hamilton learn about MAX and was he just pacing himself a second behind to get MAX to drive harder...

Bottas, just does not have it, by much, just shows you how much a better driver/tire manager Hamilton is. Really probably the best, wingman you can have...

Hotrodz · 05-11-2021, 01:21 PM

I think this race proves again how superior MB is. In just four races the talk about the new rules and rake is no longer a thing. MB figured it out. RB is fast but their car is hard on tires and Max driving style is to aggressive to compete with Lewis. Lewis has him beat in the shortest straight away on every track and that the six inches between his ears. The greatest in any sport is "lucky" than the rest because they always put themselves in a place to when. RB really didn't have a chance to win as Lewis and even Bottas was faster than the RB car. Bottas is done! I doubt he will last the season. Time to promote George Russell. Russell continues to get faster and we know he can drive the MB.

The best of the rest continues to be fun! Leclerk continues to improve and go fast. McLaren is fast but seemed a little of this race Austin Martin, enough said. Alpha and Alpine are fun to watch. They are the party crashers. They may not be in the top of the best of the rest but they are going to keep it interesting by stealing points from the rest!

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DLSTR · 05-12-2021, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danegrey

in hindsight, should MAX had past Hamilton or just stayed behind...
Interesting, the real question is how much did Hamilton learn about MAX and was he just pacing himself a second behind to get MAX to drive harder...

Bottas, just does not have it, by much, just shows you how much a better driver/tire manager Hamilton is. Really probably the best, wingman you can have...

Bottas is third in the championship with 1 pole, two fastest laps, and 3 podiums in 4 races whereas Perez is nowhere to be found. Bottas is doing a good job for Mercedes.

DLSTR · 05-12-2021, 06:18 AM

So for Monaco....................

God-Speed · 05-12-2021, 10:22 AM

DLSTR · 05-12-2021, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by God-Speed

He makes this too easy yes lol???

ZCanadian · 05-12-2021, 12:23 PM

Bottas is selling his AMG GT-S.
Perhaps the start of his separation from all things Mercedes?

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/v...it-161072.html

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danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,099 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 579072	exciting race today, not sure what to say, but Hamilton did it again. Verstappen, got the lead at the first corner, and then the tire strategy came in to play. But Hamilton came from 22 seconds back to win. It at least was an interesting race. So 4 races are in the books, my thoughts -- maybe Max is the only one that can drive the Red Bull car, Perez was good in the race but was too far behind in qualification. (Note: he was not feeling well on Saturday). So hopeful the next couple of weeks will tell. -- Ocon - has taken up the challenge over Alonso, hope it continues -- Stroll seems to be improving, thou the Aston Martin is now behind. -- Tsunoda - well someone please slow him down, too hard on himself and tries too hard and his car just stopping today did not help -- Ferrari, is getting it right, and the two team mates seem matched. -- Mick Schumacher - might have it, seems to do all the right things and stays out of trouble -- McLaren - not sure, kind a mix feelings right now, getting close... just my thoughts DLSTR, Hotrodz, ZCanadian and 1 others like this. __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

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alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,893 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418352	Reb Bull got beaten/tricked by the same trick their opponent used 2 years ago. they should have reacted to this differently rather than just keeping verstappen out there and become a rabbit. God-Speed, DLSTR, danegrey and 1 others like this.

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danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,099 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 579072	in hindsight, should MAX had past Hamilton or just stayed behind... Interesting, the real question is how much did Hamilton learn about MAX and was he just pacing himself a second behind to get MAX to drive harder... Bottas, just does not have it, by much, just shows you how much a better driver/tire manager Hamilton is. Really probably the best, wingman you can have... ZCanadian and ZontheRocks like this. __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

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Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	I think this race proves again how superior MB is. In just four races the talk about the new rules and rake is no longer a thing. MB figured it out. RB is fast but their car is hard on tires and Max driving style is to aggressive to compete with Lewis. Lewis has him beat in the shortest straight away on every track and that the six inches between his ears. The greatest in any sport is "lucky" than the rest because they always put themselves in a place to when. RB really didn't have a chance to win as Lewis and even Bottas was faster than the RB car. Bottas is done! I doubt he will last the season. Time to promote George Russell. Russell continues to get faster and we know he can drive the MB. The best of the rest continues to be fun! Leclerk continues to improve and go fast. McLaren is fast but seemed a little of this race Austin Martin, enough said. Alpha and Alpine are fun to watch. They are the party crashers. They may not be in the top of the best of the rest but they are going to keep it interesting by stealing points from the rest! Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk JARblue, danegrey, Ventruck and 2 others like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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