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DLSTR 08-08-2020 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3953204)
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Lance Stroll nobody takes signature from him at IMSA vs

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Alonso has a long line of people getting signatures!

Money cant make him famous like the Kardasians!

A winner vs a 'driver' not racer lol :)

Zoren 370 08-08-2020 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3953221)
Keeping in mind that he only reason that RP still exists is that daddy bought th team so that Lance Stroll could have a seat.

I wish my daddy is rich!!!

The only seat he bought me is my toilet seat potty trainer!

axmea? 08-08-2020 09:08 PM

Nepotism is bad for business and sends a clear message to all that regardless performance, his son will have a seat. It tells them it is ok for the team to leave points on the table. Points that impact the team's profits and ability to attract sponsors.

Interviewer: What are your thoughts about nepotism in a workplace environment?

Candidate: Well, that’s a really good question, Dad.

DLSTR 08-09-2020 10:03 AM

Another good race today!

ZontheRocks 08-09-2020 10:18 AM

Max was an animal on the track and I love the frustration coming from Hamilton “they MUST have lower tyre psi” lol. Glad that the commentary pointed out that a TPs are monitored and that is illegal. Still wondering why there was not a speed trap replay of Hamilton’s crazy lockup into the pit at the end.

LeClerc was great. Bummed that Danny spun and dropped multiple positions. Albon made mega moves on the same part of the track and nobody in is path could stop him. The rest of the Ferrari-Vettel season relationship has to continue to go up in flames, no?

On to the next Grand Prix!

danegrey 08-09-2020 10:57 AM

was different entertainment, and that is shows Mercedes and the heat does not go well.
I am impressed with LeClerc as how he gets the car into the points as he has done...

Fun watching Max take it to them, also fun watching Hamilton and seeing if he can close the gaps.....

So if it is hot in Spain, will Mercedes been struggling with there tires?

JARblue 08-09-2020 11:09 AM

That was a fun one today :tup:

alcheng 08-09-2020 11:43 AM

finally, as long as it's not mercedes, then it's a good race.

axmea? 08-09-2020 01:52 PM

I think Max33 will have more fans and better following if the homeland decides on just one name - either Holland or Netherlands.

DLSTR 08-09-2020 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3953319)
Max was an animal on the track and I love the frustration coming from Hamilton “they MUST have lower tyre psi” lol. Glad that the commentary pointed out that a TPs are monitored and that is illegal. Still wondering why there was not a speed trap replay of Hamilton’s crazy lockup into the pit at the end.

LeClerc was great. Bummed that Danny spun and dropped multiple positions. Albon made mega moves on the same part of the track and nobody in is path could stop him. The rest of the Ferrari-Vettel season relationship has to continue to go up in flames, no?

On to the next Grand Prix!

Binotto: Vettel spin hurt 70th Anniversary GP race more than Ferrari’s strategy

Sorry Seb - you were more of a problem than the team.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...strategy-calls

Ferrari Formula 1 chief Mattia Binotto says Sebastian Vettel's first-lap spin hurt his race more than the team's strategy calls, despite confusion from the German driver at Silverstone.

Vettel slumped to 12th place in Sunday's 70th Anniversary Grand Prix at Silverstone after spending much of his race stuck in the midfield, trailing a group of cars that he struggled to overtake.

The four-time world champion dropped to last place on the opening lap when he spun his car at the first corner, losing control after riding over the kerb on the inside.

Vettel questioned Ferrari's strategy calls after the race, saying the team had gone against its original plan set in the morning and that the decision to run a short stint on the hard compound tyre "didn't make any sense".

He was also heard questioning the strategy call over team radio during the race, saying: "You know that you've messed up."

Team principal Binotto was sympathetic to Vettel's ongoing struggles with the SF1000 car, but said the spin at the start was more detrimental to his race than any decision made by Ferrari's pit wall.

"I don't think Sebastian has lost faith," Binotto said on Sky Sport Italia after the race.

"He is going through a difficult time in qualifying and the last two races where he hasn't found confidence in the car. Here, he spun putting his wheels on the kerb, and his race was uphill.

"I honestly think there is little to say about strategies. We [were early] perhaps by a few laps with the call that made him lose the position to [Kimi] Raikkonen. However, we knew he would recover without losing time.

"It allowed Charles [Leclerc] to continue his comeback. Overall, it was the right choice for the team and we don't think we penalised Sebastian.

"He regained [the position] immediately on Kimi, he wouldn't have been able to do an overcut on [Daniil] Kvyat, because he was going as fast as he was at that time, and then he undercut [Carlos] Sainz.

"His race was compromised at the start, and I think that was the key, not the strategy chosen."

Vettel said after last weekend's British Grand Prix that he was struggling with a lack of confidence in the Ferrari SF1000 car.

He could only qualify 12th on Saturday for the second Silverstone race, and failed to score points for the second time in four races.

It leaves Vettel 13th in the drivers' standings after five rounds with 10 points, marking his worst start to a season since his first full year in F1 with Toro Rosso in 2008.

DLSTR 08-09-2020 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3953324)
was different entertainment, and that is shows Mercedes and the heat does not go well.
I am impressed with LeClerc as how he gets the car into the points as he has done...

Fun watching Max take it to them, also fun watching Hamilton and seeing if he can close the gaps.....

So if it is hot in Spain, will Mercedes been struggling with there tires?

The compounds should be the one's used in the first UK race last week. The heat will matter again I think..............

DLSTR 08-12-2020 10:14 PM

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...er-fault-found

Sebastian Vettel will get a new chassis for this weekend's Formula 1 Spanish Grand Prix after Ferrari found a "small fault" on his car after last Sunday's race at Silverstone.

Vettel endured two difficult weekends at Silverstone across the British Grand Prix and the 70th Anniversary Grand Prix, qualifying and finishing no higher than 10th over the races.

The four-time world champion spoke of a lack of confidence with the Ferrari SF1000 car, and experienced a first-corner spin in the 70th Anniversary race that spoiled his race.

Ferrari team principal Mattia Binotto confirmed after the race on Sunday that a chassis change was being considered for Vettel in a bid to try and remedy his struggles.

Ferrari has now confirmed it will change Vettel's chassis ahead of the Spanish Grand Prix at the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya after finding an issue.

"Sebastian will have a new chassis, because after the Silverstone post-race analysis, we spotted a small fault caused by a heavy impact over a kerb," head of chassis engineering Simone Resta explained.

"It would not have had much of an effect on performance, but it was the logical decision to take."

axmea? 08-13-2020 04:13 AM

If nothing changes for SV then what? With an objective lens should they cut him loose. They already let the world know what they think of him.

God-Speed 08-13-2020 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3953986)
If nothing changes for SV then what? With an objective lens should they cut him loose. They already let the world know what they think of him.

I don't think they will let him go since he is under contract. However with Ferrari anyone's guess is as good as mine. :ugh2:

axmea? 08-13-2020 05:05 AM

So much rejection and disrespect though. Granted SV wasn't delivering, Ferrari didn't deliver a worthy car to go against Mercs either. They had to cheat to beat them.

ZCanadian 08-13-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 3953973)
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...er-fault-found

Sebastian Vettel will get a new chassis for this weekend's Formula 1 Spanish Grand Prix after Ferrari found a "small fault" on his car after last Sunday's race at Silverstone.

Vettel endured two difficult weekends at Silverstone across the British Grand Prix and the 70th Anniversary Grand Prix, qualifying and finishing no higher than 10th over the races.

The four-time world champion spoke of a lack of confidence with the Ferrari SF1000 car, and experienced a first-corner spin in the 70th Anniversary race that spoiled his race.

Ferrari team principal Mattia Binotto confirmed after the race on Sunday that a chassis change was being considered for Vettel in a bid to try and remedy his struggles.

Ferrari has now confirmed it will change Vettel's chassis ahead of the Spanish Grand Prix at the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya after finding an issue.

"Sebastian will have a new chassis, because after the Silverstone post-race analysis, we spotted a small fault caused by a heavy impact over a kerb," head of chassis engineering Simone Resta explained.

"It would not have had much of an effect on performance, but it was the logical decision to take."

I don't entirely get this.

They had to go deep into there to repair/replace whatever it was that was gushing oil after he hit the curb hard in FP2, but they didn't look for / see any other damage until after an abysmal qualifying session and the race? That's pathetic.

alcheng 08-13-2020 06:29 PM

Let's face the reality, to Vettel AND the F1 fans.

Ferrari won't do anything to bring Vettel back to the top, they are dumping him after this season and it is non-senses to make him fast.

Ferrari's F1 management would like people think they have make a correct decision on dumping Vettel therefore a struggling Vettel is a perfect character to fit into this scenario.

DLSTR 08-13-2020 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3954050)
I don't entirely get this.

They had to go deep into there to repair/replace whatever it was that was gushing oil after he hit the curb hard in FP2, but they didn't look for / see any other damage until after an abysmal qualifying session and the race? That's pathetic.

Parc Ferme rules. Not worth the effort or overtime to bust crew curfew now. No matter he is not Charles and in the end they wanted to see how his race went. The very minor chassis damage has nil effect. This is the team doing what they can so he can do better ...........maybe lol :)

He had a new motor. No change in his performance. He is just not there at all. Who knows why. He is like Kimi after his title. Kimi never really recovered. A bit at Lotus but again at Ferrari he was useless overall.

DLSTR 08-13-2020 09:41 PM

Seb - they are favoring Charles. He has a contract, long term and you.......are being released lol :)

https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id...avours-leclerc

danegrey 08-14-2020 06:52 PM

Haas was a surprise today...
will be interesting if it continues......

ZCanadian 08-14-2020 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3954311)
Haas was a surprise today...
will be interesting if it continues......

And, Ferrari engine.
But Friday is Friday, Sunday is Sunday.
We’ll get a better picture tomorrow.
Especially if the party (mode) is really over.

God-Speed 08-15-2020 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3954350)
And, Ferrari engine.
But Friday is Friday, Sunday is Sunday.
We’ll get a better picture tomorrow.
Especially if the party (mode) is really over.

Going to be interesting. :tup:

danegrey 08-15-2020 07:39 AM

anyone following or watching F3, There is an American driver leading the championship Logan Sargeant. Taken the last 3 pole positions and finished 3rd today.

I know it is a long way to F1, but maybe there is a bit of hope

danegrey 08-15-2020 08:28 AM

Haas was a surprise today...
will be interesting if it continues......

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3954350)
And, Ferrari engine.
But Friday is Friday, Sunday is Sunday.
We’ll get a better picture tomorrow.
Especially if the party (mode) is really over.

Guess I was hoping, did not make it out of Q1...

danegrey 08-15-2020 09:06 AM

Is Stroll coming into his own, since in Quals he is only .107 behind Perez
Interesting to see what those two do in the race...

axmea? 08-15-2020 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3954411)
Is Stroll coming into his own, since in Quals he is only .107 behind Perez
Interesting to see what those two do in the race...

Good to see Sergio back and in good form. As a team, they falter during race conditions. It truly shows how hard it is be top tier.

axmea? 08-15-2020 01:16 PM

I know it is off topic but would someday like to see females in F1. It is a long road and the struggle is real but would be great to see what happens when they get the opportunity and the $$$ to keep them going.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6XieLRDaIc

DLSTR 08-15-2020 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3954411)
Is Stroll coming into his own, since in Quals he is only .107 behind Perez
Interesting to see what those two do in the race...

Lance is decent qual but falls back in the race. Lack of race-craft I think. He just has no faith on the brakes or wheel to wheel battle. Good driver...not so much 'racer' 4th season now...................

danegrey 08-16-2020 03:14 PM

a bit boring, all around, but Stroll, showed better than normal,
and the pink Mercedes did well, but Hamilton was in the zone.

Only really exciting part was the start, there was action, mid-field was a bit entertaining...

Did not understand the blue flag on Perez, just seem odd.

DLSTR 08-16-2020 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3954603)
a bit boring, all around, but Stroll, showed better than normal,
and the pink Mercedes did well, but Hamilton was in the zone.

Only really exciting part was the start, there was action, mid-field was a bit entertaining...

Did not understand the blue flag on Perez, just seem odd.

Perez flag was silly. They do that and let Stroll run himself and Ricci off the circuit in Austria.............mmmmmmmmm ok.

Max getting alot of the Red Bull. Wow!!

danegrey 08-16-2020 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 3954618)
Perez flag was silly. They do that and let Stroll run himself and Ricci off the circuit in Austria.............mmmmmmmmm ok.

Max getting alot of the Red Bull. Wow!!

Yes, Max is fun to watch and listen too,,,
:iagree:

DLSTR 08-16-2020 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3954622)
Yes, Max is fun to watch and listen too,,,
:iagree:

He kept the Pit-wall on its toes today lol!! :)

Ventruck 08-16-2020 08:37 PM

Vettel comm feed was interesting.

As much as Mercedes and particularly Hamilton dominating is boring, really have to admire the work put in to have such consistent execution. All the moving parts of an F1 team, they deserve the credit for getting it together.

Meanwhile Verstappen is someone I'm pulling for, but while Mercedes is just being as calculated as can be to hold pace, he has to take the risks just to keep up and has to think about actually chasing.

alcheng 08-16-2020 11:50 PM

Put Verstappen in the black mercedes, or even the pink mercedes, we'll need triple amount of pop-corns and beers...

axmea? 08-17-2020 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 3954695)
Put Verstappen in the black mercedes, or even the pink mercedes, we'll need triple amount of pop-corns and beers...

Yes. He's developed so much and gone are the days when he would treat his car like a missile.

danegrey 08-17-2020 09:23 AM

interesting quote from Hamilton
“For 2022 we need a better tyre, we need a tyre that gives us more grip, better safety,” he said.

“And enables us to drive closer to cars and give the fans better racing. Right now, we’re managing [pace] to a serious extent. And I don’t think that’s what the fans want. That’s not what a racing driver wants.”

Via - https://the-race.com/formula-1/mark-...every-what-if/

ZCanadian 08-17-2020 11:21 AM

Yaawwwwnnnnn. Streeeetttchhhh.
I just woke up. How did it end?

Ecclestone was right - turn lawn sprinklers onto the track at random times/corners.

Other than a few mid-field moments, the only exciting part of that race was seeing which team would screw up on strategy the most. Usually, it's Ferrari, but they couldn't even win that fight this time!

ZCanadian 08-17-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ventruck (Post 3954671)
Vettel comm feed was interesting.

As much as Mercedes and particularly Hamilton dominating is boring, really have to admire the work put in to have such consistent execution. All the moving parts of an F1 team, they deserve the credit for getting it together.

Meanwhile Verstappen is someone I'm pulling for, but while Mercedes is just being as calculated as can be to hold pace, he has to take the risks just to keep up and has to think about actually chasing.

I didn't understand why Verstappen was complaining about the slow pace from the leader, but by the same token didn't try to take the race to Hamilton. Seems that if he's going too slowly, then by rights you should be able to catch him at least, and get him to start thinking about defending or speeding up instead of managing his tires. Otherwise, the outcome is a foregone conclusion.

ZCanadian 08-17-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3954743)
interesting quote from Hamilton
“For 2022 we need a better tyre, we need a tyre that gives us more grip, better safety,” he said.

“And enables us to drive closer to cars and give the fans better racing. Right now, we’re managing [pace] to a serious extent. And I don’t think that’s what the fans want. That’s not what a racing driver wants.”

Via - https://the-race.com/formula-1/mark-...every-what-if/

Don't kid yourself. He's paranoid about tires after the British GP. Used to be he's stay out on softs for 12 laps past what Pirelli recommended. Now he's afraid to put softs on with 10 laps to go. He's shown his weakness and other teams need to exploit that.

If he could get such a tire, he's simply try to manage it to ensure a one-stop instead of getting 20+ seconds faster in a two-stop.

TBH, tires are the only thing that keeps F1 interesting at the moment. I don't like that, but the results would be even more predictable with longer life rubber!

alcheng 08-17-2020 02:07 PM

Bring back the cars from the 80s, less depending on the aero, fat grippy tires, less buttons on the steering wheel.

it is so funny that back in the days F1 used to be very exciting where every single race are filled with wheel to wheel actions.

Then some stupid in the management decided to slow the cars down thinking it can pack the pack thus more actions and also make it safer.

Then some more stupid ideas to try to make the teams more even and obvious it doesn't work and it will never work, do you ever think a Minardi can win over a McLaren? or a Alfa can lap a Mercedes?

The point is, how stupid is F1 (the company and FIA) throughout these years making so many changes that actually has make the excitement going backward, and in fact, after so many meetings or whatsoever, they are still making it backwards.

Having Hybrid engine saying it can apply to production cars where the spec and cost are so high that turn away MANY manufactures, extreme aero rules/components that only two or three designers in the paddock can manage to make something that can be competitive, budget cap talks every other months and it's been so many years where it's still a money game, so what's the point of these talk?

:facepalm:


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