Understandable for all of us yes....

Im glad F1 has a schedule but things can change quickly now.

What a race!

Was bummed that Daniel out. Holy smokes those last five laps were awesome for Leclerc and Lando fans (me included!).

Lewis and Perez with hefty penalties with Lewis' costing the podium and Lando with the lightning lap at the checkered flag to cement his first podium for McLaren. Exciting!

Was a bit slow that race and then WHAM! LOL Welcome back to F1 amigo's!!

Great unpredictable ending. Too bad for Racing Point. They had things going until.........and Red Bull to come up empty handed in a track that they were destined to take podium. Yuck.

found the race entertaining, will all the ups and downs, surprised that ferrari made 2nd place, vettel doing what he always does, hamilton maybe given his notice by bottas, stepping it up a level and trying to get the upper hand....

a bit tired of all the racing penalties in general hamliton/albon flip a coin either way, always thought it was the person who was passing had to take responsibility.... Neither backed off and that what happens

Once the car has passed, you cannot ignore it is there - Hamilton's trajectory would have put him past the left hand red & white curb and onto the green (despite team orders to avoid all curbing) which left zero room, and his LF tire bumped Albon's RR - so he can hardly claim he did not see the Red Bull. He was focused on one thing and one thing only - to the detriment of the other cars around him.

As for Red Bull - there's always this weekend!!!

Styrian GP or Austria round 2 this weekend! :)

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...box-fixes-fail

Valtteri Bottas reckons he and Lewis Hamilton will have to drive more cautiously in Formula 1's Styrian race if updates in practice do not solve Mercedes' gearbox problems.

After Mercedes was hampered by a build-up of electrical noise - stemming from vibration caused by the Red Bull Ring's kerbs - threatening the chances of its cars finishing last weekend's Austrian Grand Prix, the team explained the issue was a "complex problem" with no quick fix that would reoccur if the W11 was run in the same arrangement as the season opener.

It is understood that Mercedes will bring new parts to its 2020 challenger to try and fix the issue, as well as understand it further using additional data, which will be collected during Friday's running.

When asked by Autosport if he and Hamilton will have to avoid the kerbs from the off in the Styrian GP during the pre-event press conference, Bottas said: "[I'm] pretty confident the team has tried to do things to fix it already for this weekend.

"Obviously it's limited in the regulations how much you can do and how much you can't when it's about gearboxes.

"But they've localised the issue. I have full trust that we're going to fix it, just when is the question.

Big news of course this week - Alonso!

https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id...lt-makes-sense

https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id...ng-2020-season

If you did see the race - Ferrari had one of those weekends lol

Charles LeWreck

NUFFZED

Is he poised to take the title from Max Vercrashin' ?

Was another entertaining race (for me), with plenty of drama and action.

I was rooting for LeClerc, but that was as bad as it gets out there.

Glad to see Lando Norris putting in work in back-to-back race weekends.

Stroll and Perez looking good in the revamped RP cars.

Truly digging this new-to-me sport and wish there was more US coverage. Bring on Hungary!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...ble-for-vettel More on the story of Vettel moving to Racing Point next year.....

Perhaps most intriguing about the entire scenario though is which of the two drivers in Racing Point's current employ would be moved aside.

The most obvious candidate is Sergio Perez, who is understood to have a break clause in his contract that would allow Racing Point to slot in Vettel instead.

That may seem pretty harsh considering how loyal Perez has been the team, and the role he played in helping keep it alive back in 2018 when Force India was close to collapse, but F1 can be a ruthless game at times.

Let's not forget also the pretty hefty sponsorship backing that Perez brings with him: something that will not be so easy to replace.

But equally Racing Point's management must be aware that a line-up of Vettel and Perez is a stronger combination than Vettel and Stroll, and one that could be the difference between fighting for top three in the constructors' and ending up in the top five.

Could the unthinkable happen and the team actually stand Stroll down into a different role? It's hard to believe that it would, but in F1, not much is impossible.

The ball is now very much in Vettel's court, with a decision effectively needed before F1 reconvenes at Silverstone for the British Grand Prix

You cannot forget that the money in Tracing Point (soon to be Aston Martin) is largely from Lawrence Stroll. Sorry about poor Sergio, who is a great driver, but in the end it is money that talks.

If Vettel wants to be in F1 next year, this is his only remaining option. Looks like the car may well be more competitive than Ferrari, too!!!

F1 is apparently in talks to add Portimao to the 2020 calendar.
The Portuguese Grand Prix, together with Mugello, make 10 races.
Doubtful that there will be an American tour this year, with the US, Mexico and Brazil likely to be the three highest affected countries by then. Except for Russia, that is, and yet they still think they will hold a Grand Prix (with spectators, too!).

The Frozen Ferrari is not going to have a good year now or next potentially!

Putin gets what he wants eh lol :) :happydance:

Very much. Rumour from Italy is that the Ferrari (works and customers) engine is back to 2017 spec, whereas everyone else is running with 3 years more development in their PU's. And with engines now frozen through 2021, the next 18 months are not going to be happy ones in Marenello!

Qualy for Hungary GP assessment - https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id...oks-unbeatable

after watching qualifying today, makes me wonder if HAAS might be the plug....
not sure if he wants to stick around and be the tail end of the field.
Thou part of it could be the Ferrari engines....

I'm a Red Bull fan but hope to see the pink mercs stick it to the og mercy, RBs, and the Ferraris. Its about time we see other teams get on the podium. The problem is they're not good as the race progress.

its just nice to see things spiced up....

Max just slide off in going to the grid,,,, and crashed.... lost front wing, not sure if he damaged the front end....

Thinking the same......losing the drive to be there.

Can anyone beat the Mercedes and Hamilton?

F1 is just a one sided car/driver race league.

Its becoming boring to me.

Hamilton no matter how I dislike him.. He is the Best Driver in our era at this time period. I think he would beat Michael’s 7th time World Champion.

Rain is the equalizer but today is another Hamil-day.

Axmea can you beat Hamilton just to make it exciting!

Even on your virtual 3D world

I stink in the virtual world my friend.

Well now HAAS is under review because of Driver Aids during the formation lap ???????
And of course Renault protested Racing Point..... Too many damn rules, Hey Renault someone out smarted you....

I sent you a video at FB messenger hope you like it.

I wish you can learn to do that...its more like CGI

Clone Point took the easy way out and copied a car. Sorry but I find that cheap and not creative. Protest away. Why bother building a car. Just clone up the Mercedes and we have spec series F1 as all Mercedes lol.

Fk Stroll, his kid and money. Zero respect.

Ok agree to disagree, with as much $$ it takes and with as much copying of various different parts of the car, I see your point, nobody has tried copying a whole car.... Maybe with the new concord agreement the $$ will be spread differently...

Understand your comment about Stroll, but would racing point be here if it was not for his money, Williams and McLaren in trouble and HAAS a question mark...

Happy to see Clone Point race a car they design. They did not design this car. They used very very detailed photo''s and analysis to make this clone. It was apparent in testing to all teams what they had done. I hope they lose the protest to Renault.

So next year they wait and copy the new Mercedes in 22?? No. Wrong. Build a car and race it. Thats the spirit, what is supposedly the spirit of F1. What little is left. Fk him. No respect. Stroll Jr has about as much race craft as a flea. Without money he never see's F1. Would you hire him lol?? Pay drivers have existed in F1, I know this. He's been losing to every team mate he has had. If Vettel has any self respect left, he should never go near Clone Point. To leave Ferrari and go to that team shows how weak his ego is. He has been abused by 2 Jr drivers already lol. Ricci and Charles. Move on Seb you blew it.

I loved Toto's comment about how p'd off they were at Ferrari for their fuel cheat that they used it as energy and motivation to build a more superior car this yr.

As for the pink mercs, the team does not seem to have the race craft needed to take podium.

I'm actually stoked for Tracing Point. But I also suspect that Mercedes helped them out on the deal, or they would be the ones protesting. You can copy all you like, but there is a lot of the car that we'll never see (inside ducting, underside of floor) that has significant aero. If you don't understand the "why", then just imitating the shape is only part of the battle. You have to admit, RP nailed it.

To me, this was as brilliant a business move as it was a technical feat, to make a car based on a proven a winner rather than blow a fortune to design one for only one (2020) season (or pull a Williams and just show up with the same car, new livery). We suddenly have a team to take the midfield to the leaders. And, out of sheer luck, Covid 19 has now frozen development for most of the car until the end of next year, so Lawrence Stroll got two years for the price of one.

I think that Vettel would do well to move to Aston Martin Racing Point next year, where he has a very good chance of beating the Ferraris in every race!

Next year may well be a **** show in Formula 1.
- No idea what will happen to Renault but I assume a bailout of some sort from the French government (because that's what you do if you are a French car maker in hard times). The optics of running a several hundred million dollar F1 expense while taking taxpayers' money and closing factories, are not great. And without Goshn at the helm, the alliance with Nissan and Mitsubishi is no longer what it was.
-Williams has to be hanging on by a thread and will lose more sponsors this year. Latifi isn't their saviour financially or on the track.
-Ditto Haas.
- If Stroll's ownership causes Aston to pull its title sponsorship from RBR, where will Red Bull be financially? At the very least, they might not have the funds to run a "B" team, so be prepared to see Alfa Tauri sidelined.
- Anybody's guess whether McLaren will be back on the grid next year. The entire company is failing and were it not from a GPB 150 million bailout from the Bank of Bahrain they would have collapsed before the Styrian GP. That money will not last long, keeping the entire organization afloat, and their road cars have taken a huge hit in sales this year.
- Alfa is fast becoming a joke. Not sure if the Angnelli family wants two laughing stock teams in Formula 1.
- I don't see a lineup of other teams wanting in. VAG seems to have decided to commit to Formula E. Formula 1 is a bit of a dinosaur, and definitely a rich man's indulgence. Perhaps a few more UAE teams might step up?

Ferrari is just a sore losers at this point.

Clone Point achieved a 'cheap' entry into the top 3. Marko has said if they win the protest RedBull will do the same with Tauri and just set up a new copy. Spec series Mercedes F1 lol. Clone Point will not be able to afford to pay Vettel half his current salary. Seb wants a team that can win. Clone will need to copy the next Mercedes so they will need to be a year behind with the new regs. Their winning days appear numbered for now. 2023 will be the first year they can cheat and clone again if they copy Mercedes.

Vettel will not wait that long and he will not be super young by then. I see him going away for a year and hoping he gets a better seat - there will not be any open though. His only hope is Mercedes after LH.

If he leaves I think he is gone for good. With Clone he is mid pack with a no real name team, Aston or not. Hard to see his ego accepting that. Maybe his 'love' of the sport will overcome his ego for this seat.
Fun to speculate.

-Williams need a miracle - no buyers yet
-McLaren are now the Bahrain National Team. Their money is tied directly to the Government
-Renault are banking on the new reg's and cost structure to stay in the series
-Haas will be the first team to fold up and leave F1. They are debating this now and I dont see Mr Haas finding inspiration any more.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...roblem-for-fia

Formula 1 managing director of motorsport Ross Brawn believes the current protest against Racing Point will be a "tricky problem" for the FIA to resolve.

Racing Point is currently facing scrutiny over the legality over its RP20 car following protests by Renault at each of the last two races.

Racing Point has openly admitted it based the design of its car on the 2019 Mercedes W10 by using photographs, but stresses it remains within the regulations.

Writing in his post-race column, Brawn explained how copying other teams was "standard" in F1, having previously done so himself in his time as a team technical chief.

"My view is copying in Formula 1 is standard," Brawn said.

"Every team has, in normal times, digital photographers in the pit lane out there taking thousands of photos of every car for analysis, with a view of copying the best ideas. We used to give our photographers a shopping list.

PLUS: Why F1 has always been a "copying championship"

"Racing Point have just taken it to the next stage and done a more thorough job. There is not a single team in this paddock which has not copied something from another.

"I'd ask every Technical Director in the paddock to raise their hand if they haven't copied someone else. You won't see any hands. I have certainly copied others."

Renault's protest against Racing Point has focused on the brake ducts used on the RP20 car, which is argues has copied the Mercedes design.

Racing Point was permitted to use the 2019 Mercedes brake ducts last year when they were a listed part, but then had to design its own version for this year after a change in the rules.

Team principal Otmar Szafnauer said over the weekend it was "impossible" for the brake ducts to be illegal, and that he has "no concerns whatsoever" over their legality.

Brawn said that it could be difficult for the Racing Point designers to dismiss any knowledge they had of the Mercedes part when making their own version.

"Last year, Racing Point had access to, and could use, 2019-spec Mercedes brake ducts because they were not a listed part. This year, brake ducts are listed parts, so you have to design your own," Brawn explained.

"However, Racing Point cannot forget the knowledge they acquired using the 2019 Mercedes brake ducts.

"I think it is illogical to think they can wipe their memory banks. It is a tricky problem and one for the FIA experts to resolve."

The FIA is set to rule on the matter ahead of next week's British Grand Prix.

Brawn has a point indeed.

At the beginning Renault makes the matter so big like RP is putting a 3D copy of the 2019 Mercedes.

However, Brawn states the point "I'd ask every Technical Director in the paddock to raise their hand if they haven't copied someone else. You won't see any hands. I have certainly copied others."


I read that article yesterday and his point reminds me years ago when Tyrell(?) brought out the X-Wings, and every team copy that after couple races, also the F-Duct, shark-fin and recent years that small wing that mount on the rear part of the engine cover.


Of cos, I am not here the support the action of RP, same as many of you, I am not a fan of this action of RP and also the recent rumors about them sacking Perez...


However, that copy-cat story also brought up a thought, if the 2020 RP is a copy of a 2019 Mercedes... that means how far ahead is mercedes to all the others...

further on this... rather than starting a protest against RP... shouldn't Renault, a factory team, spend their time on thinking where they can improve thus consistently faster than a one year old copy-cat?