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Williams is SOLD - to a US based capital group
Concorde is signed -- by all 10 teams, which means HAAS decided to play what is all means, I have no clue, since it is only time that will tell that... |
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I hope they are patient. Will need 3 years to fully implement the new regs.SO this year, then next with the old cars, finally 2022 for the new cars. This will be interesting but for sure Williams as a family concern is gone. |
Interesting that Dorilton Capital added Williams Racing in its portfolio. Things will no longer be the same at Williams. I see a drastic leadership change coming in 2021 because it is INSANITY at Williams.
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how long has Claire Williams been the deputy principal for? 10 years??
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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...cedes-in-races
Not surprised Mercedes no fear of this rule to be used starting in Monza! Mercedes Formula 1 boss Toto Wolff sees the upcoming ban on qualifying modes as a challenge - and he believes that it will potentially give the team more performance in races. The FIA wrote to the teams last week informing them of a plan to allow only one mode for qualifying and the race, with details set to be confirmed by a technical directive before the Belgian GP. The change has been framed by the FIA as an attempt to help its technical staff a better chance of ensuring compliance with the regulations. It has also been labelled as an attempt to rein in Mercedes, the manufacturer that has traditionally made the biggest performance gains when it matters in qualifying. "I think the primary goal of the FIA was to implement the rule to better understand and better analyse what is going on with the engines," said Wolff. "It's a very complex method between the combustion engine and all the energy recovery system, and having one mode it becomes more easy for the FIA to really see if everything is in compliance." Regarding the suggestion that Mercedes was being reined in, Wolff added: "It has always been the case in F1 that pulling back the leaders, or what supposedly are the leaders, is something that is good for the sport. "We see it very much as a challenge. We have a good quali mode and we are able to give it a little bit more power in that last session. "But if that is not possible anymore because everything needs to be smoothed out over the race, then it's not a deficit for us. "On the contrary, we think we can translate it into more performance in the race. That is something that is a great challenge for us that will take on once the rule is implemented." Elaborating on that theme Wolff made it clear that qualifying modes currently have a cost in terms of how much performance is then available for races. Thus it follows that if qualifying modes cannot be used then the power unit can potentially be run harder in races. "I think we don't lack performance on Saturdays. We had until now quite a margin. "We struggled in some of the races where we were quite limited in powerful engine modes, and if F1 were to ban in-season certain power unit modes, then I think it will actually help us in the race. "If you can avoid damaging your power unit in those few qualifying laps that you have available, in Q3 and then the odd lap in the race, the damage metrics goes down dramatically. "So five laps of quali mode not being done gives us 25 laps of more performance in the race, and that is something we believe will give us more performance. "You must take into effect even if it may hurt us more in qualifying, which I'm not sure, and it's a couple of tenths, then it will hurt all the others in the same way. "But for us, we are always very marginal on what we can extract from the power unit, and if we were to be limited in qualifying modes, then well, we will be stronger in the race." |
Will probably result in more cars finishing on Sunday.
Will be curious to find out how much the teams rely on party mode. |
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One word to describe today's race, boring.
Two teams that surprised me, Renault for doing well and RP for letting Renault take their candy. Poor strategy, AT on Gasly not pitting like the others and RB on Albon for the wrong tires. Alex still playing the political game, held back on criticizing RB. Ferrari was messy this weekend. Is the struggle related to the undisclosed "agreement" with the FIA as punishment for their sneaky fuel cheat from LY? |
Today’s race was as exciting as watching paint dry. I’m sure Hamilton is soooo proud of the tough fight he faced today.....lol. Actually, I think he may have dozed off a few times.
Seriously, I’m so fed up of this farce! When any car is capable of gaining on average 1.5 sec after the first lap, that has nothing to do with the driver and everything to do with the car. I don’t know how long the F1 will allow Mercedes to get away with this crap. It ruins it for everyone else and most of all, makes for the most boring races on earth. It was supposed to change in 2021 with team spending limits. But, now it’s pushed out to 2022 because of supposedly the Covid-19 situation. I call bull. I think Mercedes protested and threatened to quit the F1 if they were forced into a spending cap. I say let them quit! It would definitely make for more exciting racing if they weren’t in the picture. |
+1 on the “boring”.
Not sure why Gasly and Perez were left out. Red tires were already going off by lap 10 SC. After that, the race was over. Kimi the best Ferrari powered car. Mainly because of LEC’s second stop for hydraulic top-up. But 10 sec on the first stop was inexcusable. Ferrari’s issue most definitely is related to their agreement. They are relegated to a 2017 engine spec, and cannot develop again until 2022. Leclerc is probably kicking himself that he signed for 5 year while there was a seat at Mercedes un-signed earlier this year! And VET must be dying to sign with the pink Mercedes in order to Wipe Ferrari’s backsides for them next year. Failing illness, the only championship drama will be for second place - VER or BOT. Albon and Norris ran good races, Albon hamstrung by tire. Renault surprisingly strong. GIO pulled a real boner that changed an uh-oh moment into disaster Monza without party mode next weekend. Wonder what that will do??? |
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I fear for Albon. Sooner or later he will be Al-gone. Its not working for him and Max is crushing him. He just does not click with the car. He is struggling. Put Gasly in it and move on. Ferrari have bad aero to no aero and have been relegated to using a weak engine as they were essentially caught cheating and forced to modify the engine to comply. Its a secret settlement with the FIA for now. They should tell us what happend. No matter now as they are terrible. Renault are on the rise a bit. Finally. They should be doing better. Its a large company with resources. Glad to see it! |
Yes it was Boring to say the least. Hopefully the next race will be more exciting. Hopefully. :tup:
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Well when you copy something, not exactly like the real thing. But is it better then where they were? At least Stroll is showing something... Red Bull I would not put Gasly there, he had his chance, as for Albon, why did they not put him on the hard tires.... it is a no win, for who ever is the 2nd driver, MAX is so far ahead of anyone... Ferrari Wish we would know what they did and for them to go after RP, is all about the money Renault Maybe it is only the low downforce circuits... Boring --- YES and do not expect anything different next week |
So its official. Claire and Sir Frank out. Can't wait to see what's next.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/w...paign=widget-1 |
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This should likely happen at a lot of teams but is unlikely. For a sport where the cars go so fast, things behind the scenes sure change at a slow pace! |
Alfa Romeo is having a terrible 2020.
70 years ago, their drivers clinched the championship (there was no constructors yet) at Monza after winning almost every podium spot for the entire season (save for Indianapolis, which most European teams did not attend). With Monza next on this year's calendar, here's a trip through time. Do you know the history of the quadrifoglio emblem that has adorned all Alfa race cars since the 1920's? |
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In F1 you vroom or get the broom. |
First race with the new 'party mode' ban in place. Perez at Clone Point expects to be affected. Will be fun to see who pays the most for that reduction in power - https://www.skysports.com/f1/live-bl...ip-column-live
Whose party will be spoiled by rules change? This is the weekend: the one where the technical directive about engine modes comes into force. Teams can now only run their engine in one mode for qualifying and the race, meaning so-called 'party modes' - for the end of qualifying or crucial quick overtakes, for instance - can no longer be deployed for extra speed boosts. So what will the impact be? Racing Point's Sergio Perez, whose team run Mercedes engines, is rather keen to find out... "I think we’re going to be losing a bit in qualifying relative to other people," he told Sky F1. "It’s going to be very interesting to see how other people handle that through the race. "You may be able to see a couple of engine blows on Sunday. I think engines can be pushed to their maximum so it will be very interesting as you can only use one engine mode." |
I don't remember where I read or watched but my understanding is mercs gain 28 more horsepower with the party mode but not sustainable for race trim.
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Lewis Hamilton finds the saga surrounding Formula 1's ban on qualifying engine modes "amusing" as he questions the real reason for the change.
From this weekend's Italian Grand Prix, the FIA has outlawed teams from using any special 'party modes' to boost engine power for single laps in qualifying. Instead, teams will have to run with consistent modes throughout qualifying and the race. While the FIA stated that it was imposing the ban because it wanted to be more confident about its policing of what teams were up to with engines, Hamilton said he is intrigued about politicking from other teams. "I find it kind of amusing because the FIA said that it was so they could manage everyone's usage of the engine or something like that," explained Hamilton ahead of the Italian Grand Prix. "And then Red Bull came and said: we were the ones just pushing for it. So it's just completely different reasons why they did it." Hamilton and team-mate Valtteri Bottas are both convinced that, while the ban will impact their team, they think the difference will be minimal. "I think naturally we lose a little bit," added Hamilton. "But it's not the end of the day. So I think everyone potentially would lose something but maybe some more than others. And no one particularly knows I think." Bottas backed up the view that the change will free up better engine modes for the race, as the engines would not be so compromised on reliability by having to run at full power in qualifying. "I think in qualifying, honestly there is going to be a small difference," said the Finn. "It's not huge. But then in the race hopefully, it seems like we are overall going to have a better race time with a decent mode all through the race." Williams driver George Russell reckoned anyone hoping for the engine mode ban to hurt Mercedes would be in for disappointment. "If anything it's only going to help them even more in the race, so the whole idea of trying to slow them down is actually going to go complete the opposite way," he said. "It's only going to enhance their performance. "I think on a Saturday it will probably compromise us a tenth of two, but we expect it to also compromise the other manufacturers a tenth or so. "So we are probably a net one tenth down on a Saturday. "But on a Sunday we're definitely net up by a big margin. "And I think what Mercedes has done to improve the engine to allow us to run a very high engine more for the whole race is really impressive and she's going to be flying on the Sundays." Racing Point's Sergio Perez reckoned, however, there was a risk of more engine failures this weekend as the result of teams perhaps pushing harder in the races. "We don't know how hard the others can run their engines in the race, we will see," said the Mexican. "I think certainly it's going to hurt us a bit in qualifying. "And it's to be seen how much we are able to gain back in the race compared to others. It's all relative. "So I think it's just a matter of waiting for this weekend. "This track is very hard on engines, so there might be some engines blowing up out there this weekend. "So it will be important to make it to the end. And it will be very interesting to see the differences across teams." |
Mercedes are ready for the ban. - https://www.planetf1.com/news/merced...slower-at-spa/
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Watched the first Practice this morning, it was interesting, but Vettel was 19th, one ahead of a williams.... Not sure what is going or it was simply the program, it was the first practice... not much taken from that....
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Nobody said they have to revert to the non-party-mode for the weekend. They will just tune the car for the maximum that they think it will sustain, for Monza. After this, there are different tracks with different demands.
What I haven't heard, is how many engines each car is allotted this year. With the season length still in flux until only last week, and now 17 races on the calendar (instead of what, 22 or 23 originally planned), there should be a pretty clear picture as to how many PU's they can blow up to finish the year. That's two less races per engine if they go with 3 again. I don't think it would be reasonable to permit only two. So it would seem they can push the engines harder than ever. |
Wonderful photos!!
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ok, a haas car is ahead of vettel, and its the end of practice 3
Top 5 from Practice 3 Bottas, Carlos Sainz Jr, Lando Norris and Daniel Ricciardo Hamilton is 5th, but looked like he got caught by all the traffic on his last hot lap... qualifying is going to be interesting |
So much for restricting the 'party modes' lol - https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-record-f1-lap
Lewis Hamilton claimed pole position for Formula 1's 2020 Italian Grand Prix ahead of Valtteri Bottas, while Carlos Sainz Jr took third with Max Verstappen pushed down to fifth. Sergio Perez ended up fourth, while the Ferrari cars were knocked out across Q2 and Q1, with Charles Leclerc and Sebastian Vettel ending up P13 and P17 respectively. Unlike in 2019, the final runs in Q3 did not feature farcical scenes of the drivers jostling to get space for the optimum tow, but these actions did occur at the end of Q1 - with Vettel caught up. Hamilton was ahead after the first runs in Q3 had been completed, with the two Mercedes cars not bothering with a tow as Bottas ran clear ahead of his team-mate and Hamilton towed the rest of the pack. Bottas had to close a 0.053s gap on the final runs, and although he found time in all three sectors Hamilton ran faster to claim his seventh career pole at the Italian GP - and the fastest lap in F1 history at an average speed of 164mph. The world champion was fractionally slower in the final sector on his last run, but it did not cost him as he wound up ahead of Bottas by 0.069s. Sainz demoted Perez to fourth as the Racing Point driver was the only racer not to set a personal best on his final run in Q3. Verstappen complained that he was "losing time on the straights" even as he ran closer to other cars on his first Q3 run, and although he found time on his last lap he wound up fifth, with Lando Norris sixth in the other McLaren. |
Wow, Formula 1 has the best cars and tracks, but it is seriously the shittiest racing ever. Complete money-driven garbage. You have to wish for rare feats by Max or Pierre to not be bored by the technology/money display that Mercedes puts on every week. NASCAR and Indy has real racing. Something has to change.
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wow, there was a race today, once Hamilton was out of the way. It prove to be exciting, and the finish was great..... Wonder about Bottas, heard something of car damage... but then Hamilton showed who he was taking the penalty and getting to 7th...
It was a great race to watch and makes you wonder how it would be Mercedes was not that strong or there... Ferrari low point of the year |
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No one would have predicted this. It has been years when race podium was absent of MB, Ferrari, and RB all at the same time.
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