2020 Formula 1 thread

DLSTR · 09-13-2020, 12:02 PM

Race of the year it was lol

Albon saved his job..........

Ventruck · 09-13-2020, 02:50 PM

As a Ferrari *driver* fan, I can only be glad my homeboys LeClerc and Vettel finished the race lmao.

LeClerc was doing all he could to delay in the inevitable through the second red flag.

axmea? · 09-13-2020, 03:52 PM

Watch the 1000th Ferrari race celebration on you tube. No love for Seb.

God-Speed · 09-14-2020, 04:21 AM

I never thought this race was going to end.

ZCanadian · 09-14-2020, 10:19 AM

Three sprint races in one afternoon actually beats the 53-lap format, IMHO. :-)

danegrey · 09-14-2020, 07:11 PM

ok, been reading about that re-start and all the blame and who should have done what. But I blame it on Bottas, yea I know he is allow to control the pace, but what he did was not smart. He was worried about Hamilton getting the draft on him. Well it did not work out, because of what happen in the back. Hamilton got him on the standing start.

Not sure on this one, can the teams at least tell the drivers what is going on on a restart, or is that some silly thing about not letting the drivers drive.

Remember that they did have a green light to start going, and being that far back, you probably cannot see what is going up front.

Also Indycar has had a couple of problems this year with rolling starts too, so it is not just F1..

Ventruck · 09-14-2020, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

Watch the 1000th Ferrari race celebration on you tube. No love for Seb.

At least there was a 5 on the car.

Clearly the crew chiefs have been too busy directing the choreography this season.

axmea? · 09-16-2020, 03:09 AM

At Mercedes, they would have been able to figure out the problem. You won't see the same issue twice. Common Red Bull. Get this Max Verstappen reliability issue figured out.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/martin...n-reliability/

ZCanadian · 09-16-2020, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by danegrey

ok, been reading about that re-start and all the blame and who should have done what. But I blame it on Bottas, yea I know he is allow to control the pace, but what he did was not smart. He was worried about Hamilton getting the draft on him. Well it did not work out, because of what happen in the back. Hamilton got him on the standing start.

Not sure on this one, can the teams at least tell the drivers what is going on on a restart, or is that some silly thing about not letting the drivers drive.

Remember that they did have a green light to start going, and being that far back, you probably cannot see what is going up front.

Also Indycar has had a couple of problems this year with rolling starts too, so it is not just F1..

Bottas was not smart on any of the starts in that race - standing or rolling. But he's not responsible for the cars behind him, other than to obey the rules (cannot speed up after the green, and then slow down again). What he did was not wrong (at least I've seen no official investigation or sanction, and goodness knows they've looked at that one many times). I think that Chico and Antonio are really to blame. Kimi was smart and avoided it all, but those kinds of smarts come from experience.

Don't know if the pre-start is subject to the same radio rules as a formation lap - was wondering that also. And the announcers kept saying that Bottas had to wait until he crossed the line to get going - I'm not familiar enough with the rules to know the details. If true, then the guys at the back really had no business speeding up that early.

DLSTR · 09-17-2020, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Bottas was not smart on any of the starts in that race - standing or rolling. But he's not responsible for the cars behind him, other than to obey the rules (cannot speed up after the green, and then slow down again). What he did was not wrong (at least I've seen no official investigation or sanction, and goodness knows they've looked at that one many times). I think that Chico and Antonio are really to blame. Kimi was smart and avoided it all, but those kinds of smarts come from experience.

Don't know if the pre-start is subject to the same radio rules as a formation lap - was wondering that also. And the announcers kept saying that Bottas had to wait until he crossed the line to get going - I'm not familiar enough with the rules to know the details. If true, then the guys at the back really had no business speeding up that early.

He took the lead on 1st standing start..........................

ZCanadian · 09-17-2020, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR

He took the lead on 1st standing start..........................

Yeah, but gave it up before the first corner - why did he stay on the right side of the track when he was ahead of Hamilton on his left, going into T1 (right hander)??? Unless he was instructed by the team to do so.
Maybe he was trying to prevent a tow, but that was a rookie move that cost him the race.

Hotrodz · 09-17-2020, 11:17 AM

I think he really didn't have a chance because Hamilton was in his slip stream so quickly any move would have cost them both the race.

Hamilton seems to get a lot of backhanded credit by folks down playing others talent or lack of a competitive car. Everyone forgets even when he made the move Mercedes that their car was not the superior car on the circuit at that time and he still gave Red Bull and Vettel more than they could handle.

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DLSTR · 09-17-2020, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Yeah, but gave it up before the first corner - why did he stay on the right side of the track when he was ahead of Hamilton on his left, going into T1 (right hander)??? Unless he was instructed by the team to do so.
Maybe he was trying to prevent a tow, but that was a rookie move that cost him the race.

The very first start was all Bottas from P2. The first safety car and then the second start cost him. LH fell back at the very beginning unless I am not correct.

danegrey · 09-27-2020, 10:28 AM

well Hamilton was not 1st, he did an opps and the team did an opps. That is only because the first opps, I did not get a clear indication of who was at fought, the 2nd opps was the team.. (practice start violations)

with Hamilton on red and the 10 second penalty, just made it a bit interesting.... Max, finished 2nd, with do effort and Bottas won...

notes: Albon, had quite a day, did end in 10th,
Stroll got punted, by leclar
first lap mess and then a SC...

Mid-field was good, but up front, same old same old....

DLSTR · 09-27-2020, 12:07 PM

Stroll will get an education if he doesnt understand what happend with Charles today. Here is Lance' quote "I gave him all the room I could. It was unlucky but he could’ve avoided it. He didn’t have to run so wide into me."

Yes son - when Vettel does the same or Max does - GROW UP. He is so not cut out for real F1. He does touring laps not racing LOL

LH is ridiculous in his reaction to the penalties. He is a professional and SHOULD KNOW THE RULES COLD. Its what you are gettting PAID for.

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danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,081 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 558939	ok, been reading about that re-start and all the blame and who should have done what. But I blame it on Bottas, yea I know he is allow to control the pace, but what he did was not smart. He was worried about Hamilton getting the draft on him. Well it did not work out, because of what happen in the back. Hamilton got him on the standing start. Not sure on this one, can the teams at least tell the drivers what is going on on a restart, or is that some silly thing about not letting the drivers drive. Remember that they did have a green light to start going, and being that far back, you probably cannot see what is going up front. Also Indycar has had a couple of problems this year with rolling starts too, so it is not just F1.. __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

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Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	I think he really didn't have a chance because Hamilton was in his slip stream so quickly any move would have cost them both the race. Hamilton seems to get a lot of backhanded credit by folks down playing others talent or lack of a competitive car. Everyone forgets even when he made the move Mercedes that their car was not the superior car on the circuit at that time and he still gave Red Bull and Vettel more than they could handle. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,081 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 558939	well Hamilton was not 1st, he did an opps and the team did an opps. That is only because the first opps, I did not get a clear indication of who was at fought, the 2nd opps was the team.. (practice start violations) with Hamilton on red and the 10 second penalty, just made it a bit interesting.... Max, finished 2nd, with do effort and Bottas won... notes: Albon, had quite a day, did end in 10th, Stroll got punted, by leclar first lap mess and then a SC... Mid-field was good, but up front, same old same old.... __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

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DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21266	Stroll will get an education if he doesnt understand what happend with Charles today. Here is Lance' quote "I gave him all the room I could. It was unlucky but he could’ve avoided it. He didn’t have to run so wide into me." Yes son - when Vettel does the same or Max does - GROW UP. He is so not cut out for real F1. He does touring laps not racing LOL LH is ridiculous in his reaction to the penalties. He is a professional and SHOULD KNOW THE RULES COLD. Its what you are gettting PAID for. God-Speed, JARblue and ZontheRocks like this.

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