Formula-1 2019

Cyber370 · 06-10-2019, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by God-Speed

I am a Hamilton fan, however Vettel won the race. The stewards got the race wrong in a major way. Also once again, will someone please take the mic away from Martin Brundle. He has to be the worst I have ever seen. Including all sport.

I agree 110%!! I was there. That call was complete bullsh*t and demonstrates what is wrong with F1. Vettel was supposed to somehow maintain control of the car on GRASS, stop the car and wait for Hamilton to pass before re-entering the race track. Idiots!!!

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God-Speed · 06-10-2019, 04:10 PM

Now Vettel knows how the New Orleans Saints feel!

Hotrodz · 06-10-2019, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by God-Speed

Now Vettel knows how the New Orleans Saints feel!

LMAO, that's funny and they still lost their protest as shall Vettel. There is no way they are going to reverse their decision as it will lead to more protest. The best thing they can do is change the rule to state that a car that leaves the track most enter back on to the the track safely and providing room for other vehicles to pass given the totality of the circumstances. This will add much needed room for common sense to prevail...or not!

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Spooler · 06-10-2019, 06:28 PM

Well Vettel didn't get back on the track in a safe manner. So he failed. What erks me about Vettel is he should have had his head down and got a lead of more than 5 seconds. That's what a driver would have done. Instead he was whining like a big old baby. Hell, he made the mistake in the first place. If he wouldn't have messed up he would have won.

danegrey · 06-10-2019, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Well Vettel didn't get back on the track in a safe manner. So he failed. What erks me about Vettel is he should have had his head down and got a lead of more than 5 seconds. That's what a driver would have done. Instead he was whining like a big old baby. Hell, he made the mistake in the first place. If he wouldn't have messed up he would have won.

I agree, he lost focus and lost the race... As to the call, it sucks, but like everything else with all the damn replays / slow motion and such, alters the outcome. In reading several articles today, it showed that he did go wider then he needed to... But damn, you got to go and make a charge... What is interesting Hamilton said he would to the same thing... I really thing its the drivers fault, it all started with complaining about this and that and now they have a mess. Damn this is racing and sh-t happens....

Hotrodz · 06-10-2019, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey

I agree, he lost focus and lost the race... As to the call, it sucks, but like everything else with all the damn replays / slow motion and such, alters the outcome. In reading several articles today, it showed that he did go wider then he needed to... But damn, you got to go and make a charge... What is interesting Hamilton said he would to the same thing... I really thing its the drivers fault, it all started with complaining about this and that and now they have a mess. Damn this is racing and sh-t happens....

Most drivers want to race and win outright and not be given a win. Hamilton did not want to win like that either. Of course he would have done the same thing. LMAO, I was talking to Steven Dougherty, X Nissan factory drive about competitive racing or competitive anything and I said the saying is if you ain't cheating you ain't trying and he replied in racing the saying is if you ain't cheating you ain't winning lol! It just didn't work out for Vettel this time.

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ltullos · 06-10-2019, 06:40 PM

Are you saying Vettel had enough speed to increase his lead b more than 5 sec when Ham was able to stay within 3 virtually all day; and had turned up to the max power Toto would give him to make a pass in the last 15 laps?

It was a ******** penalty and disgrace and totally representative for what F1 has become where everything has become more important than drivers and racing. The one opinion I unquestionably respect who I didn't hear speak out on it is Jackie Stewart.

Hotrodz · 06-10-2019, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Well Vettel didn't get back on the track in a safe manner. So he failed. What erks me about Vettel is he should have had his head down and got a lead of more than 5 seconds. That's what a driver would have done. Instead he was whining like a big old baby. Hell, he made the mistake in the first place. If he wouldn't have messed up he would have won.

You aren't wrong...he damn near ended up in third place.

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Spooler · 06-10-2019, 07:54 PM

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You aren't wrong...he damn near ended up in third place.

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If I was his boss I would have given him crap for not fighting to the end for every little bit he could get.

alcheng · 06-10-2019, 06:48 PM

I can see many people think the stewards ruined Vettel race and also F1.

But the original cause of the incident is the driver's error by Vettel himself.

Hamilton didn't force him to run onto the grass, he was all by himself as it happens which he missed the right hander thus has to go straight, got onto the grass.

If you look at the replay, he gets back onto the asphalt, gained control of the car when it sits on the middle of the track, then he merges to the right thus squeeze hamilton.

His own mistake caused the incident, and he should responsible for the consequence

I am not a fan of either of both.

axmea? · 06-11-2019, 12:38 AM

There's a reason why refs let 'em play in the NBA and not make a foul call in the final seconds of the game. Let 'em race.

I enjoyed how VET switched place cards and stuck his middle finger at F1.

Hotrodz · 06-11-2019, 07:31 AM

The most telling part of Vettel switching the placards was that no one from Mercedes reversed the back the other way!

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axmea? · 06-11-2019, 08:17 AM

Racer's opinions.

https://uk.motor1.com/news/353852/ve...edia-reaction/

axmea? · 06-11-2019, 08:49 AM

Another Ferrari tactical error could have made it worse for VET. Forgetting to tell #16 that VET had a 5 second penalty.

DLSTR · 06-12-2019, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

The most telling part of Vettel switching the placards was that no one from Mercedes reversed the back the other way!

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You are not supposed to alter things such as those in parc ferme'. Vettel = classless, over rated twit.

Vettel biggest problem is Vettel. Another mistake and lost win. Unimpressive overall again.

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Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,095 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684394	Well Vettel didn't get back on the track in a safe manner. So he failed. What erks me about Vettel is he should have had his head down and got a lead of more than 5 seconds. That's what a driver would have done. Instead he was whining like a big old baby. Hell, he made the mistake in the first place. If he wouldn't have messed up he would have won. alcheng and Hotrodz like this.

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axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,243 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53242	There's a reason why refs let 'em play in the NBA and not make a foul call in the final seconds of the game. Let 'em race. I enjoyed how VET switched place cards and stuck his middle finger at F1. God-Speed and Hotrodz like this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

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Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	The most telling part of Vettel switching the placards was that no one from Mercedes reversed the back the other way! Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk God-Speed likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,243 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53242	Racer's opinions. https://uk.motor1.com/news/353852/ve...edia-reaction/ Hotrodz likes this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete Last edited by axmea?; 06-11-2019 at 08:22 AM.

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ltullos Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: DFW Posts: 312 Drives: 2016 Nismo Tech MT Rep Power: 15	Are you saying Vettel had enough speed to increase his lead b more than 5 sec when Ham was able to stay within 3 virtually all day; and had turned up to the max power Toto would give him to make a pass in the last 15 laps? It was a ******** penalty and disgrace and totally representative for what F1 has become where everything has become more important than drivers and racing. The one opinion I unquestionably respect who I didn't hear speak out on it is Jackie Stewart.

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alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,894 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418354	I can see many people think the stewards ruined Vettel race and also F1. But the original cause of the incident is the driver's error by Vettel himself. Hamilton didn't force him to run onto the grass, he was all by himself as it happens which he missed the right hander thus has to go straight, got onto the grass. If you look at the replay, he gets back onto the asphalt, gained control of the car when it sits on the middle of the track, then he merges to the right thus squeeze hamilton. His own mistake caused the incident, and he should responsible for the consequence I am not a fan of either of both.

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axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,243 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53242	Another Ferrari tactical error could have made it worse for VET. Forgetting to tell #16 that VET had a 5 second penalty. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

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