Ticketed for 'modified exhaust'

base64 · 07-30-2014, 04:13 PM

I was pulled over by an overzealous cop and ticketed for 'modified exhaust' after the guy asked me for some obscure paperwork proving my intake was legal.

My intake is the Stillen gen III which is definitely CARB legal but I don't know what paperwork he was talking about. I'm going to court soon and am not sure what I should tell them.

Does anyone know what paperwork/form he was referring to? Does it even exist?

Thanks.

theDreamer · 07-30-2014, 04:15 PM

STILLEN Cold Air Intakes CARB Approved Through 2014 | STILLEN Garage

CARB Approved – E.O. #D-436-21

Modified exhaust details: http://www.bobsmuffler.com/noise.htm

theDreamer · 07-30-2014, 04:15 PM

Might be this PDF: http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/de...o/D-436-21.pdf

NoLaKrewe · 07-30-2014, 04:21 PM

To protect and serve

zae757 · 07-30-2014, 04:50 PM

axmea? · 07-30-2014, 05:39 PM

I'm gonna keep the carb doc and buy me a stillen sticker and slap it on anything illegal.

1st · 07-30-2014, 11:43 PM

Bad Cop, No Donut!

Zbrah · 07-31-2014, 03:11 AM

Where did this bappened? And were you doing anything illegal to get his attention? You're the first person I've heard of in 15 years to get ticketed for modified exhaust. Last guy was my highschool buddy and they even cited him for his car being lowered, they even pulled out a tape and measured lol he was driving like an asshat around the school though.

wanker · 07-31-2014, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

STILLEN Cold Air Intakes CARB Approved Through 2014 | STILLEN Garage

CARB Approved – E.O. #D-436-21

Modified exhaust details: California's Modified Exhaust Law

The Dreamer has you covered. Simply appear in court with evidence of Stillen's CARB certification for its intakes. Stillen is one of the very few venders who takes the time and effort to get its CA legal aftermarket parts CARB certified. If fact if you contact Stillen, they'd be glad to help you.

LostSol · 07-31-2014, 10:44 AM

Yep, ask for evidence that the officer measured your exhaust at over 95 db. He wont have it. Case dismissed.

As for the intake bring the CARB cert.

Sensei Kreese · 07-31-2014, 11:36 AM

I'd be willing to bet the cop won't even show up to court.

base64 · 07-31-2014, 12:47 PM

First of all I was driving completely normal as I had a drunk passenger. He only gave me a 'verbal warning for speed' (real nice of him). Second - I was nice as I'm always nice to cops.

Third, I was driving on the freeway in Van Nuys, CA. Yes I got a 'loud exhaust' ticket while driving on the FREEWAY with stock cats and a Stillen intake.

This cop is basically a pirate.

wanker · 07-31-2014, 01:11 PM

A loud exhaust ticket is a whole other ball game. The law is very grey.

First I'd check with the CA Air Resource Board contact (Mr. Seong Kim, (626) 450-6164) to if the Invidia Gemini exhaust is CARB certified; I doubt it.

Next, you will have to appear in court to contest the cop's findings. Chances are the cop will not appear. Regardless, I would appear with photos showing that you have not modified your exhaust (i.e., it still has mufflers etc.) as the burden will be on the cop to establish that it is too loud.

LostSol · 07-31-2014, 01:13 PM

The exhaust is post-emissions systems, and does not need a CARB sticker.

wanker · 07-31-2014, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostSol

The exhaust is post-emissions systems, and does not need a CARB sticker.

CARB certification may not be required, but it protects CBE owners from this very type of legal hassle.

07-30-2014, 04:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
base64 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 89 Drives: 2010 370z Touring Rep Power: 14	Ticketed for 'modified exhaust' I was pulled over by an overzealous cop and ticketed for 'modified exhaust' after the guy asked me for some obscure paperwork proving my intake was legal. My intake is the Stillen gen III which is definitely CARB legal but I don't know what paperwork he was talking about. I'm going to court soon and am not sure what I should tell them. Does anyone know what paperwork/form he was referring to? Does it even exist? Thanks. __________________ Stillen Gen3 CAI, Invidia Gemini, TEIN Flex coilovers, slotted rotors, greddy DRL's, cf nose, carbon fiber wrapped kick plates with blue LEDs

07-30-2014, 04:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	STILLEN Cold Air Intakes CARB Approved Through 2014 \| STILLEN Garage CARB Approved – E.O. #D-436-21 Modified exhaust details: http://www.bobsmuffler.com/noise.htm kentstuh likes this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Might be this PDF: http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/de...o/D-436-21.pdf BeemaaZ likes this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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07-31-2014, 03:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5451	Where did this bappened? And were you doing anything illegal to get his attention? You're the first person I've heard of in 15 years to get ticketed for modified exhaust. Last guy was my highschool buddy and they even cited him for his car being lowered, they even pulled out a tape and measured lol he was driving like an asshat around the school though. DEpointfive0 likes this. Last edited by Zbrah; 07-31-2014 at 03:13 AM.

07-31-2014, 10:44 AM	#10 (permalink)
LostSol Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,021 Drives: 2010 370z 40th A.E. Rep Power: 15	Yep, ask for evidence that the officer measured your exhaust at over 95 db. He wont have it. Case dismissed. As for the intake bring the CARB cert. base64, DEpointfive0 and 1st like this. __________________ 2010 Nissan 370Z 40th Anniversary Edition #762/1000 \| Forgestar \| Michelin \| Swift \| TRS \| Z Speed \| ARK \| Z1 \| Hawk \| CFE \| Evo-R \| GTMat \| Stillen \| Seibon \| Whiteline \| Pioneer \|

07-31-2014, 11:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
Sensei Kreese Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: SoCal Posts: 90 Drives: 40th Anniversary Rep Power: 11	I'd be willing to bet the cop won't even show up to court.

07-31-2014, 12:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
base64 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 89 Drives: 2010 370z Touring Rep Power: 14	First of all I was driving completely normal as I had a drunk passenger. He only gave me a 'verbal warning for speed' (real nice of him). Second - I was nice as I'm always nice to cops. Third, I was driving on the freeway in Van Nuys, CA. Yes I got a 'loud exhaust' ticket while driving on the FREEWAY with stock cats and a Stillen intake. This cop is basically a pirate. __________________ Stillen Gen3 CAI, Invidia Gemini, TEIN Flex coilovers, slotted rotors, greddy DRL's, cf nose, carbon fiber wrapped kick plates with blue LEDs

07-31-2014, 01:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
wanker Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 443 Drives: 2011 370Z S/T A7 Rep Power: 2901	A loud exhaust ticket is a whole other ball game. The law is very grey. First I'd check with the CA Air Resource Board contact (Mr. Seong Kim, (626) 450-6164) to if the Invidia Gemini exhaust is CARB certified; I doubt it. Next, you will have to appear in court to contest the cop's findings. Chances are the cop will not appear. Regardless, I would appear with photos showing that you have not modified your exhaust (i.e., it still has mufflers etc.) as the burden will be on the cop to establish that it is too loud.

07-31-2014, 01:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
LostSol Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,021 Drives: 2010 370z 40th A.E. Rep Power: 15	The exhaust is post-emissions systems, and does not need a CARB sticker. 1st likes this. __________________ 2010 Nissan 370Z 40th Anniversary Edition #762/1000 \| Forgestar \| Michelin \| Swift \| TRS \| Z Speed \| ARK \| Z1 \| Hawk \| CFE \| Evo-R \| GTMat \| Stillen \| Seibon \| Whiteline \| Pioneer \|

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