Moving to california few questions

1slow370 · 11-26-2012, 12:00 AM

first off moving to ontario/fontana area for work in dec, still planning on doing my v8 swap and needed some advice on that. i know i will be check free after the first one for 2 years then after that i dont know what to do with it. This whole CARB thing is just a hassel. Maybe just keep it as a track car? I really wish i could find a way to drive it tho.

1st · 11-26-2012, 10:48 AM

Replacement Engines
A straight engine swap for an identical power unit comes under California's "replacement engine" laws. All such swaps must involve identical engines, with no modifications. If the replacement block comes without emissions equipment, then this must be removed from the original engine and installed on the new unit. Any difference between the two engines renders the swap invalid under replacement engine rules and instead the car owner must meet guidelines for "engine changes." Engines imported from Japan can be used for replacement engine swaps in California. They must be "functionally identical" to the block that comes out of the car. California has a list of engines that are identified as legal to be used for such swaps.

Engine Changes
An engine change involves swapping a car engine with another that is not identical, under California law. The state insists that the newly-installed block must be the same age or newer than the one coming out of the car. It must be from the same type of vehicle, such as a passenger car or light duty truck. If the car is California-certified then the engine going in to the car must also be California-certified. Car owners must make sure an engine change does not increase pollution levels, according to California's Air Resources Board. Car owners must submit their car for inspection after an engine change takes place. This is carried out at a state referee station where the vehicle is subject to an emissions test and checked to see that all required equipment is where it should be under California law.

Exemptions
If you own a vehicle that was made before California introduced its strict emission laws then your car is exempt. This means owners of old classic imported cars and vintage U.S. models do not have to comply with the engine swap laws for more modern vehicles. California calls these older cars "uncontrolled" vehicles. They include all foreign-made vehicles from 1967 and earlier, all U.S.-made vehicles certified in California that were manufactured in 1965 or before, and all U.S.-produced cars certified federally that were made in 1967 and before.

1st · 11-26-2012, 10:53 AM

This is also a good thread regarding new smog laws for 2013 in Ca

New CA Smog Check Law effective 1/1/2013

DEpointfive0 · 11-26-2012, 10:54 AM

Ummmm... Or you can pay someone to MAKE it pass... Lol, it ain't that hard to find

phelan · 11-26-2012, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Ummmm... Or you can pay someone to MAKE it pass... Lol, it ain't that hard to find

let's not talk about illegal activities here, mmkay?

1st · 11-26-2012, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Ummmm... Or you can pay someone to MAKE it pass... Lol, it ain't that hard to find

Too much of a liability for a few hundred bucks.

memorylasts · 11-26-2012, 12:39 PM

Chevrolet has a LS3 crate engine that is carb legal, you put that in and the managment etc... cats, and your home free, you need i think a c5 fpr. That is the only legal v8 that you can swap at this time...

its almost 8k with no work involved.

Or,

just keep it registered at your parents or whoever's house... and drive it with you current plates. Issue avoided. Within 30 days you are supposed to transfer everything over, there is no time limit on how long you can "visit." If you swap your license transfer the active car reg to your mom/dad/brother/sister, someone you can trust. They cant say anything about it unless you get a moving violation that is all they can say.

DEpointfive0 · 11-26-2012, 01:44 PM

^^^ this IS true, BUT if they can prove you've stayed too long (and I think you only have 10 days) the fine is moronic...
Finding someone to "pass" your smog is REALLY easy, (just ask SOMEONE, AHEM on the forum)
Not sure why there would be any real liability, all the RX7 guys I know "pass" smog, LOL

1slow370 · 11-29-2012, 12:46 AM

Pm me up that please the vk will happen. some magic may happen where i might get an eo from the ref. Im loophole searching all the time.

1slow370 · 12-16-2012, 09:19 AM

got all moved in now, just need to finish unpacking and spend 3 days at dmv. Anybody in the rancho cucamonga/fontana area hit me up and we can go stare at each others cars.

11-26-2012, 12:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7250	Moving to california few questions first off moving to ontario/fontana area for work in dec, still planning on doing my v8 swap and needed some advice on that. i know i will be check free after the first one for 2 years then after that i dont know what to do with it. This whole CARB thing is just a hassel. Maybe just keep it as a track car? I really wish i could find a way to drive it tho. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 11-26-2012 at 12:11 AM.

11-26-2012, 12:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
memorylasts A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,125 Drives: Cars... Rep Power: 17	Chevrolet has a LS3 crate engine that is carb legal, you put that in and the managment etc... cats, and your home free, you need i think a c5 fpr. That is the only legal v8 that you can swap at this time... its almost 8k with no work involved. Or, just keep it registered at your parents or whoever's house... and drive it with you current plates. Issue avoided. Within 30 days you are supposed to transfer everything over, there is no time limit on how long you can "visit." If you swap your license transfer the active car reg to your mom/dad/brother/sister, someone you can trust. They cant say anything about it unless you get a moving violation that is all they can say. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ somewhat-journal-thingy Last edited by memorylasts; 11-26-2012 at 12:43 PM.

11-29-2012, 12:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7250	Pm me up that please the vk will happen. some magic may happen where i might get an eo from the ref. Im loophole searching all the time. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

12-16-2012, 09:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7250	got all moved in now, just need to finish unpacking and spend 3 days at dmv. Anybody in the rancho cucamonga/fontana area hit me up and we can go stare at each others cars. DEpointfive0 and marks370z like this. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

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11-26-2012, 10:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
1st A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: I 80 Biz U.S. 50 Posts: 1,708 Drives: Platinum Z Rep Power: 1615	Replacement Engines A straight engine swap for an identical power unit comes under California's "replacement engine" laws. All such swaps must involve identical engines, with no modifications. If the replacement block comes without emissions equipment, then this must be removed from the original engine and installed on the new unit. Any difference between the two engines renders the swap invalid under replacement engine rules and instead the car owner must meet guidelines for "engine changes." Engines imported from Japan can be used for replacement engine swaps in California. They must be "functionally identical" to the block that comes out of the car. California has a list of engines that are identified as legal to be used for such swaps. Engine Changes An engine change involves swapping a car engine with another that is not identical, under California law. The state insists that the newly-installed block must be the same age or newer than the one coming out of the car. It must be from the same type of vehicle, such as a passenger car or light duty truck. If the car is California-certified then the engine going in to the car must also be California-certified. Car owners must make sure an engine change does not increase pollution levels, according to California's Air Resources Board. Car owners must submit their car for inspection after an engine change takes place. This is carried out at a state referee station where the vehicle is subject to an emissions test and checked to see that all required equipment is where it should be under California law. Exemptions If you own a vehicle that was made before California introduced its strict emission laws then your car is exempt. This means owners of old classic imported cars and vintage U.S. models do not have to comply with the engine swap laws for more modern vehicles. California calls these older cars "uncontrolled" vehicles. They include all foreign-made vehicles from 1967 and earlier, all U.S.-made vehicles certified in California that were manufactured in 1965 or before, and all U.S.-produced cars certified federally that were made in 1967 and before.

11-26-2012, 10:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
1st A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: I 80 Biz U.S. 50 Posts: 1,708 Drives: Platinum Z Rep Power: 1615	This is also a good thread regarding new smog laws for 2013 in Ca New CA Smog Check Law effective 1/1/2013

11-26-2012, 10:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	Ummmm... Or you can pay someone to MAKE it pass... Lol, it ain't that hard to find

11-26-2012, 01:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	^^^ this IS true, BUT if they can prove you've stayed too long (and I think you only have 10 days) the fine is moronic... Finding someone to "pass" your smog is REALLY easy, (just ask SOMEONE, AHEM on the forum) Not sure why there would be any real liability, all the RX7 guys I know "pass" smog, LOL