is it possible to ask the forum members about ACA without being political???

[andre12031948]

Originally Posted by blackcherry20

I am wondering...do you guys think we will see employers drop insurance benefits completely since this new "exchange" wil be there?
and then we wil have to pay for insurance through the exchange instead of paying our portion of thee company sponsored plans we have now?

I think that's a sure thing. That's why the penalties for the companies are very low today. They want them to stop providing insurance to their workers & instead pay a much lower fee for the penalty. I'm as certain of that as the sun rising tomorrow!!! Sorry!!

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by blackcherry20

I hope you are right....but if ALL the large corporations do it you can bet everybody will get dumped and end up in this "exchange"...sigh.

Again, I doubt it. How many large companies would poach talent by being the only ones offering health insurance? I'd go to work there for sure.

Originally Posted by andre12031948

I think that's a sure thing. That's why the penalties for the companies are very low today. They want them to stop providing insurance to their workers & instead pay a much lower fee for the penalty. I'm as certain of that as the sun rising tomorrow!!! Sorry!!

Who is "They"?

[andre12031948]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Again, I doubt it. How many large companies would poach talent by being the only ones offering health insurance? I'd go to work there for sure.



Who is "They"?

Really? Hint - penalties.

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by andre12031948

Really? Hint - penalties.

Do you think that if everyone pays the penalty as opposed to maintaining coverage that the balance sheet for the country will improve or worsen?

[andre12031948]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Do you think that if everyone pays the penalty as opposed to maintaining coverage that the balance sheet for the country will improve or worsen?

I don't really get your question. The balance sheet for the country????

We can't get a balanced budget to save our life, as they say. We freaken spent 17 trillion more than we have, most of it in the last 5 years, second place goes to the other guy before this cl-wn.

[andre12031948]

After this our budget problem is coming to a news station near you. Why can't we print money & spend more than we make?, yet the government can?

If we did what "they" do, we would get arrested.....

I'm trying to sign out! Watch a little porn, take a walk......

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by andre12031948

I don't really get your question. The balance sheet for the country????

We can't get a balanced budget to save our life, as they say. We freaken spent 17 trillion more than we have, most of it in the last 5 years, second place goes to the other guy before this cl-wn.

Since you think the end game is to have everyone give up their coverage and just pay the penalty, do you think that would improve or worsen the financial position of this country? Hint- It won't make things better.

And asking "why can the government print more money and deficit spend, but individuals cannot" shows that you really don't have a grasp on how things actually work. I'm done explaining things to you. You ask a question, and when it's answered, you either disregard it, add in a conspiracy theory or some chicken little bs or move the goalposts. It is impossible to debate the uninformed.

[andre12031948]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Since you think the end game is to have everyone give up their coverage and just pay the penalty, do you think that would improve or worsen the financial position of this country? Hint- It won't make things better.

And asking "why can the government print more money and deficit spend, but individuals cannot" shows that you really don't have a grasp on how things actually work. I'm done explaining things to you. You ask a question, and when it's answered, you either disregard it, add in a conspiracy theory or some chicken little bs or move the goalposts. It is impossible to debate the uninformed.

I'm sorry to tell you this since you've been nice to me.

That is a ridiculous question so I didn't answer or even consider that that's what you meant.

Sorry again but I think everyone else knows that I was just making a point, NOT really asking a question. Got it?

[cossie1600]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Since you think the end game is to have everyone give up their coverage and just pay the penalty, do you think that would improve or worsen the financial position of this country? Hint- It won't make things better.

And asking "why can the government print more money and deficit spend, but individuals cannot" shows that you really don't have a grasp on how things actually work. I'm done explaining things to you. You ask a question, and when it's answered, you either disregard it, add in a conspiracy theory or some chicken little bs or move the goalposts. It is impossible to debate the uninformed.

Chuck, should have quit two pages ago....

Employers of 50 or more ft employees have to offer coverage or face a 2000 pet person penalty under aca.

The same guy who bitches about having to buy his or her insurance when they need to realize the insurance offer at mcdonalds is not free. You have to pay for it yourself at a much higher cost. If u want to go without it, then thanks for sticking everyone else with the bill

[blackcherry20]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Since you think the end game is to have everyone give up their coverage and just pay the penalty, do you think that would improve or worsen the financial position of this country? Hint- It won't make things better.

And asking "why can the government print more money and deficit spend, but individuals cannot" shows that you really don't have a grasp on how things actually work. I'm done explaining things to you. You ask a question, and when it's answered, you either disregard it, add in a conspiracy theory or some chicken little bs or move the goalposts. It is impossible to debate the uninformed.

Sigh. I too am feeling a bit frustrated by the politics and being out of control of my own fate...and having my pay go down instead of up because it seems like no matter what happens in washington it ends up costing ME.

Thats all. Sometimes i just need to release the frustration just so i can do it all over again tomorrow.