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Originally Posted by arcticreaver if i'm mistaken, looks like the majority of the people in this thread believe owning a gun is correct and/or right. which is why i had
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And of course, everyone is biased. The idea of "unbiased opinions" is hogwash. There's such a thing as unbiased evidence, but never unbiased interpretation of that evidence. Quote:
Prior to the Heller case, while the historical evidence on the meaning of the second ammendment (such as the other writings of its authors, the federalist papers, etc) was pretty clear, there was a lot of debate in this country about the meaning of the second ammendment. The anti-gun lobby was playing semantics games and trying to say that it only applied to the military due to the phrase "well-regulated militia". In the Heller decision, the US Supreme Court finally (for the first time in history) gave a direct answer to that question, and settled the matter legally. The second ammendment does in fact protect individual gun ownership. More info here: District of Columbia v. Heller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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The part of the law they're trying to undo by forcing a rewrite is that currently, DC residents can't own handguns at all (well, technically they can, but they have to apply for a permit from the chief of police, who never grants it unless you're someone very very special). DC residents *can* own simple shotguns and long rifles under some very restrictive circumstances, one of which was (before Heller struck it down) that the gun had to be stored disassembled and locked up, preventing any chance of defensive use. Given that in a rewritten and NRA-approved version of the law, most of the measures being highlighted in that paper would still be part of the law, there's not much to debate. Many other states have most of these basic restrictions in place re: criminal records, registration of guns, importation controls, etc. For that matter most of these matters are also regulated by federal law anyways. The only point they raise that gun-rights advocates would want to see dropped is the first one, regarding "high capacity ammunition magazines" and "assault weapons". There was a federal assault weapons ban from 1994 to 2004. It had no effect on crime and was allowed to sunset. Basically, virtually none of the gun deaths in the US, statistically speaking, are caused by assault rifles. The few that are, are invariably caused by unregistered assault weapons which are owned by criminals who aren't allowed, by federal law, to even buy a simple handgun or bolt-action hunting rifle (and another law or ban does nothing to stop these people). Assault weapon bans remove rights from the law-abiding citizens while having no effect on crime. Further, assault rifles are effective defense tools. Every deputy in my local sheriff's department carries an AR-15 in their trunk. There's a reason they do that: it's a very effective tool in some situations, even for the good guys. Going back to my point about police response times: if it's effective for them, it's effective for us too. |
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I do not believe in dis-arming a man/woman! Give a person a chance to protect and defend them selves and their loved ones!
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Wrong, wrong, wrong! Your not reading my posts are you! I've state more than one -Misdemeanor Domestic Violence=your guns and gun rights are gone! http://74.6.146.127/search/cache?ei=...icp=1&.intl=us
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I'm (obviously) all for relaxing some of the current gun laws on the book (such as the 1968 and 1986 ammendments to the National Firearms Act), and for getting more of the restrictive states/cities to start allowing handgun ownership and carry, but you have to pick your battles. Getting violent felons and domestic abusers their gun rights back isn't one that could really be won, regardless of whether one thinks it's the right thing to do. |
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