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kenchan 08-03-2011 10:15 PM

^^ holy crap! :eek: dang... that's some serious stuff. :tup:

Red__Zed 08-03-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1244038)
My new zoom showed up today -- it's a monster.

http://www.the370z.com/members/onzed...2-100-1068.jpg

I had to take the picture with the wife's CoolPix. I hope to get out and about this weekend and shoot some stuff.

:eek:


curious, what made you go with the 7D?

onzedge 08-03-2011 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1244053)
:eek:


curious, what made you go with the 7D?

I have been using Canons since I started a while back -- 1973 or so. I almost went with the 60D, but it is not as large as the 7D. The 7D is mostly metal construction, shoots a little faster than the 60D -- the big factor was how it fits in my hand. The 5D I also considered, but could not justify in my head the cost.

Nikons are definitely sweet and I believe Nikon and Canon to be equal overall. I still have a Nikon F 35mm and it is a tank. The D 7000 is a camera that every raves about. I just went Canon due to lots of brand experience.

:tiphat:

Red__Zed 08-03-2011 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1244059)
I have been using Canons since I started a while back -- 1973 or so. I almost went with the 60D, but it is not as large as the 7D. The 7D is mostly metal construction, shoots a little faster than the 60D -- the big factor was how it fits in my hand. The 5D I also considered, but could not justify in my head the cost.

Nikons are definitely sweet and I believe Nikon and Canon to be equal overall. I still have a Nikon F 35mm and it is a tank. The D 7000 is a camera that every raves about. I just went Canon due to lots of brand experience.

:tiphat:

gotcha. My little brother shoots the same camera, it is definitely a nice one. I am thinking about making the jump to the 5D, but I like how fast the 7D is.

kenchan 08-03-2011 10:36 PM

red_zed - post up some of your work. :tup:

Red__Zed 08-03-2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1244064)
red_zed - post up some of your work. :tup:

I shared a few shots from my honeymoon, and I have a few car shots up here. I don't generally post the stuff I really like online though.

onzedge 08-03-2011 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1244062)
gotcha. My little brother shoots the same camera, it is definitely a nice one. I am thinking about making the jump to the 5D, but I like how fast the 7D is.

One thing to consider with the 5D is that it is full frame -- not all lenses work with it and there is no multiplier -- e.g. a 28-135 is a "real" 28-135. A 28 - 135 on a 7D is like a 44.8 - 216.

kenchan 08-03-2011 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1244069)
I shared a few shots from my honeymoon, and I have a few car shots up here. I don't generally post the stuff I really like online though.

oh i see... hummm... can you water mark it and post online or is it just a private matter? :confused: i assume your shots are top notch considering the equipment you're talking about. :tup:

Red__Zed 08-03-2011 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1244077)
One thing to consider with the 5D is that it is full frame -- not all lenses work with it and there is no multiplier -- e.g. a 28-135 is a "real" 28-135. A 28 - 135 on a 7D is like a 44.8 - 216.

Yeah...that is why I want it! :tup:

Also, holy chit. This seems too good to be true, but the seller is well known. WTF?

Canon EOS 5D Mark II 21.1 MP Digital SLR Camera | eBay

Red__Zed 08-03-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1244082)
oh i see... hummm... can you water mark it and post online or is it just a private matter? :confused: i assume your shots are top notch considering the equipment you're talking about. :tup:

No, I'm just learning as well. The wife is hijacking my d3100 most of the time, and I figure I might as well go straight to something legit rather than wasting time and money on another mid-range camera.

I'm not so much worried about having images stolen, I just feel like it cheapens the shots some. I am the same way with music....yet I have no issue doing a cd....I guess I am just weird.

onzedge 08-03-2011 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1244083)
Yeah...that is why I want it! :tup:

Also, holy chit. This seems too good to be true, but the seller is well known. WTF?

Canon EOS 5D Mark II 21.1 MP Digital SLR Camera | eBay

That looks like a good deal on the 5D.

Red__Zed 08-03-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1244090)
That looks like a good deal on the 5D.

I feel like it has to be a scam or have a catch. That's a $2300 camera with a $750 L series lens.

onzedge 08-03-2011 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1244092)
I feel like it has to be a scam or have a catch. That's a $2300 camera with a $750 L series lens.

Some of the big camera dealers get pretty good pricing and the seller has a very high number of sales. It could be totally legit. He is in UK though.

onzedge 08-04-2011 11:51 AM

Random Star Trek shot from my den/office at home.

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...5_297882_n.jpg

kenchan 08-04-2011 01:22 PM

^^ cool! is that a model you built? :) one of the guys at work is a trekkie(?) trekky(?).


so during lunch i looked at my RC picts i took last night and noticed several areas i want to fix. first is lighting, im going to place one more incandesent light to the right of my camera to give tad more illumination around the front driver side tire, also will remove all items near the shooting area to rid reflection on the car's door and panel (like my synth-keyboard! :icon14:) and will try DOF that will give me closer to 30cm. :)

36mm f/7.1 from about 1m (iso100) - aim near headlamp/taillamp
42mm f/9 from about 1m (iso100) - aim near headlamp/taillamp

try this again. :mad: :D nono, im not mad. hahaha

Nitex 08-04-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1245052)
^^ cool! is that a model you built? :) one of the guys at work is a trekkie(?) trekky(?).


so during lunch i looked at my RC picts i took last night and noticed several areas i want to fix. first is lighting, im going to place one more incandesent light to the right of my camera to give tad more illumination around the front driver side tire, also will remove all items near the shooting area to rid reflection on the car's door and panel (like my synth-keyboard! :icon14:) and will try DOF that will give me closer to 30cm. :)

36mm f/7.1 from about 1m (iso100) - aim near headlamp/taillamp
42mm f/9 from about 1m (iso100) - aim near headlamp/taillamp

try this again. :mad: :D nono, im not mad. hahaha


I really need to start shooting in manual mode, and need to take the time to understand aperture/ISO/metering and how it effects my shots.. Auto can only take me so far.

Also what program are you using to add lights like that ken? Im just using a trial version of lightroom 3. Maybe i should download CS5 already, co-worker gave me a very nice book to read for CS5!

Nick911sc 08-04-2011 03:02 PM

I suggest using BOTH LR3 and CS5.

I use LR for color editing, lighting, white balance etc(not to mention going through large catalogs is much easier) and then I use CS5 for sharpening, major editing work etc.

That's just me though.

Nitex 08-04-2011 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 1245248)
I suggest using BOTH LR3 and CS5.

I use LR for color editing, lighting, white balance etc(not to mention going through large catalogs is much easier) and then I use CS5 for sharpening, major editing work etc.

That's just me though.

I have been using lightroom 3 for sharpening and noise filtering. Maybe i should be doing this in CS5 for better results?

kenchan 08-04-2011 04:22 PM

i use the barebone PS Element9. :D i only use it mainly for minor level adjustment and slight boost in saturation/slight sharpening if needed. most of my images are straight out of my camera.

oh, and re-size.

kenchan 08-05-2011 07:07 AM

Mr.onzedge- please let it rip. Evaluate my performance please, good and bad. :D no editing done other than resize.

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...-frontside.jpg

Nick911sc 08-05-2011 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitex (Post 1245389)
I have been using lightroom 3 for sharpening and noise filtering. Maybe i should be doing this in CS5 for better results?

Sharpening in LR kinda sucks. I use unsharpen mask in CS5 for way better results.

phelan 08-05-2011 08:27 AM

for some reason i can't get my CS5 to work with the NEF files my d5100 spits out.

Nick911sc 08-05-2011 08:29 AM

Can you choose to shoot raw on your camera?

Cmike2780 08-05-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1246313)
for some reason i can't get my CS5 to work with the NEF files my d5100 spits out.

Probably need to download the latest plug-in from Adobe. Nikon usually gives you the software with your camera if you just need to open an NEF file. I had the same problem opening with CS3. I should really switch to CS5, but the damn thing is so expensive (legally anyways).

onzedge 08-05-2011 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1246240)
Mr.onzedge- please let it rip. Evaluate my performance please, good and bad. :D no editing done other than resize.

http://www.the370z.com/members/kench...-frontside.jpg

Mr. Kenchan. I am not as articulate a critic as I can be in other areas. When it comes to judging photogrpaphs, I go with my initial gut feel which falls into one of four categories -- boring but OK, bad, well done but it doesn't speak to me or I really like it. This shot I really like.

It is nicely exposed, is interesting, has clear focus throughout and the lighting is good. You are getting better with each post. I am not just kissing your butt, either.

Thanks for sharing and for asking my opinion. Keep them coming. :tup:

My sons are going to the UTI car show Sunday -- it will probably be populated heavily with ricers, but I hear there will be some decent cars there too. Among the decent cars will be Taylor's scary-fast 280zx (one of my old ones) that he built and it is going for some dyno pulls. Although I have a rule (a guideline, actually) that my kids (men) don't get to schedule my time on the weekends, I am going to go and try to get some good shots.

kenchan 08-05-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1246327)
Mr. Kenchan. I am not as articulate a critic as I can be in other areas. When it comes to judging photogrpaphs, I go with my initial gut feel which falls into one of four categories -- boring but OK, bad, well done but it doesn't speak to me or I really like it. This shot I really like.

It is nicely exposed, is interesting, has clear focus throughout and the lighting is good. You are getting better with each post. I am not just kissing your butt, either.

Thanks for sharing and for asking my opinion. Keep them coming. :tup:

My sons are going to the UTI car show Sunday -- it will probably be populated heavily with ricers, but I hear there will be some decent cars there too. Among the decent cars will be Taylor's scary-fast 280zx (one of my old ones) that he built and it is going for some dyno pulls. Although I have a rule (a guideline, actually) that my kids (men) don't get to schedule my time on the weekends, I am going to go and try to get some good shots.

ahh, thank you mr.onzedge. :tup: i can take quite a beating so no worries if you really feel something is not right, i like to know about it and apply the fix on my future shots. :p

that picture is actually using 3 incandescent and 2 flouresent (super white) bulbs to get different hue/energy from the blue rug.

i also tried all incandescent lamps with the same shot but it came out real bland and flat as if it almost looked like a sephia (sefia?) oldy golden looking picture but exposure too high, no dept no color variation. :icon14:

i also tried shining a flash light at objects while the camera was taking the long 25sec or so shot. it's a pretty cool effect. im going to try LED flashlights in the future. im done with the alfa for now. :tup:

looking forward to your shots from the carshow. hope they have antiques. :p

phelan 08-05-2011 11:33 AM

I agree the composition of that one was good, ken. If anything...I'd flip the lighting to accent the flag a little bit. Just my personal opinion of framing / composition though, and I'm the rookie here :icon17:

kenchan 08-05-2011 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1246750)
I agree the composition of that one was good, ken. If anything...I'd flip the lighting to accent the flag a little bit. Just my personal opinion of framing / composition though, and I'm the rookie here :icon17:

hey thanks phelan. :D yah, i was actually thinking about shining a low luminance flashlight at the flag. but it put too much emphasis on the flag while it was outside the DOF and the initial focal point of the image went more towards the blurry flag than the front of the car.

maybe if it was a real simple darker colored flag (or if the flag was smaller?) it wouldn't have had as much impact...(?) also was thinking it would've been cool if i had a small LED light or something shining from the bottom of the tire stack towards the flag. (very limited props i have.... :crying: and the rug kept falling down in the backdrop as it was just folded upwards. :rofl2: )

Cmike2780 08-05-2011 12:19 PM

Great work Kenchan, but the rug background makes the scene too "noisy." A neat trick I use for the ground, is to buy a sheet of plexy glass from home depot and place it over a plain white or black surface. It creates a slight reflection & diffuses the shadows really well. I use some plain, non-glossy bond paper for the background or anything that's not "rough" looking. It messes with how people see scale. The exposure is spot on, but the scene looks like it's still a toy. Take a the AutoArt Models website and you'll see what I mean.

AutoArt

onzedge 08-05-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1246839)
Great work Kenchan, but the rug background makes the scene too "noisy." A neat trick I use is to buy a sheet of plexy glass from home depot and place it over a plain white or black surface. It creates a slight reflection & diffuses the shadows really well. I use some plain, non-glossy bond paper for the background or anything that's not "rough" looking. It messes with how people see scale. The exposure is spot on, but the scene looks like it's still a toy. Take a the AutoArt Models website and you'll see what I mean.

AutoArt

Great idea.

Red__Zed 08-05-2011 12:24 PM

^I agree. Carpet makes it too funky for me. Well taken shot though.

kenchan 08-05-2011 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1246839)
Great work Kenchan, but the rug background makes the scene too "noisy." A neat trick I use for the ground, is to buy a sheet of plexy glass from home depot and place it over a plain white or black surface. It creates a slight reflection & diffuses the shadows really well. I use some plain, non-glossy bond paper for the background or anything that's not "rough" looking. It messes with how people see scale. The exposure is spot on, but the scene looks like it's still a toy. Take a the AutoArt Models website and you'll see what I mean.

AutoArt

huh, thanks for the advise! :tup: actually, i have a sheet of plexiglass at home i can use. :p noted on the background as well. hope to smooth it out more. will checkout the autoart site as well. thanks! :tup:

i have a 1:18 black M3 i will practice next time around and should look perfect with a slight reflective ground for some sophistication. :p

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1246850)
^I agree. Carpet makes it too funky for me. Well taken shot though.

thanks. yah, i dont have too many props so just grabbed something blue that might work in the shot. actually i too was scratching my head on how the carpet looks too. :D hahaha. will see if my wife has any other fabrics i can use in the future. :p

Red__Zed 08-05-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1246967)
huh, thanks for the advise! :tup: actually, i have a sheet of plexiglass at home i can use. :p noted on the background as well. hope to smooth it out more. will checkout the autoart site as well. thanks! :tup:

i have a 1:18 black M3 i will practice next time around and should look perfect with a slight reflective ground for some sophistication. :p



thanks. yah, i dont have too many props so just grabbed something blue that might work in the shot. actually i too was scratching my head on how the carpet looks too. :D hahaha. will see if my wife has any other fabrics i can use in the future. :p

Haha, I feel ya. I never have stuff lying around to take cool shots of at home. At least you have tons of models and stuff:tup:

kenchan 08-05-2011 08:57 PM

Hey mr.onzedge's got a self portrait avatar! :tup:

onzedge 08-05-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1247658)
Hey mr.onzedge's got a self portrait avatar! :tup:

Ummm, yep. It is not exactly a self portrait, but it is me. My wife shot that with her CoolPix last Thanksgiving -- she made me grow the beard. :icon17: The suit was my idea.

kenchan 08-05-2011 09:43 PM

^^ :tup:

BeachZTT 08-06-2011 09:35 PM

Here are a couple of shots from the regatta today... Sigma 50-500 handheld. Light was terrible. Heavily overcast.

http://www.the370z.com/members/beach...-regatta-1.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/beach...-regatta-2.jpg

kenchan 08-06-2011 10:31 PM

^^ awesome picts! i can feel the speed in your shot. :tup:

the front end of the boat at the corner of the frame makes it looks like it's going real fast too.

onzedge 08-06-2011 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1248921)
^^ awesome picts! i can feel the speed in your shot. :tup:

the front end of the boat at the corner of the frame makes it looks like it's going real fast too.

:iagree: :tup:

BeachZTT 08-07-2011 09:12 AM

Thanks guys! I love how you can see the coils in the rooster tails. It is beautiful and sunny out today. We may ride back over for an hour or so. Fingers crossed.


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