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Ouch, $40K base Turbo z35? I was hoping $35. Some decent options and $50k is awfully close. Which puts "on the fence" buyers, well on the fence. Not to ruffle feathers but yet the main reason I traded my Z for a 3.8. Whole lot more for quite a bit less. Yes it's lacking a couple ticks in speed but I've never noticed it DD it. And with Genesis going solo, along with Ford and Chevy $40k options this Z35 better be spectacular. I'm not dismissing it, I love Z's, they've pulled many rabbits out their hat. I'm hopeful.
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Ouch, $40K base Turbo z35? I was hoping $35. Some decent options and $50k is awfully close. Which puts "on the fence" buyers, well on the fence. Not to ruffle feathers but yet the main reason I traded my Z for a 3.8. Whole lot more for quite a bit less. Yes it's lacking a couple ticks in speed but I've never noticed it DD it. And with Genesis going solo, along with Ford and Chevy $40k options this Z35 better be spectacular. I'm not dismissing it, I love Z's, they've pulled many rabbits out their hat. I'm hopeful.
Seriously? I can't even believe you'd speculate that??? We know the Z will have at least 2 engines n 3 power levels.... What math you been doing? The 2016 camaro with 335hp is priced at $32,000 for a 2lt manual. What made you think you were gonna get a top tier Nissan engine for $35k? Better stay buy-in Hyundai's bruh.
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Seriously? I can't even believe you'd speculate that??? We know the Z will have at least 2 engines n 3 power levels.... What math you been doing? The 2016 camaro with 335hp is priced at $32,000 for a 2lt manual. What made you think you were gonna get a top tier Nissan engine for $35k? Better stay buy-in Hyundai's bruh.
Maybe you're right. I hope you are. 18 months ago I said the EXACT same thing and got laughed at but until there is something solid from Japan in the pipeline it's what we have NOW. But for STARTING at 40 large with "just" 400hp...the competition already is ahead unless it's LOADED at base and light. Very light. 3100 max. Otherwise it's ALREADY behind.
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Not to ruffle feathers but yet the main reason I traded my Z for a 3.8. Whole lot more for quite a bit less. Yes it's lacking a couple ticks in speed but I've never noticed it DD it. And with Genesis going solo, along with Ford and Chevy $40k options this Z35 better be spectacular. I'm not dismissing it, I love Z's, they've pulled many rabbits out their hat. I'm hopeful.
Oh... n not to ruffle your feathers, but quit making comparisons from the Genesis to the Z. If you're gonna make an appropriate comparo. Make it with the Q60 coupe or G37.

The Gen will NEVER HANDLE or have the driving dynamics of ANY 2 SEAT sports car let alone the Z. With a 16 hp deficit an automatic Z demolishes auto Gen's. They only compare acceleration in manual transmission.
Steering feel, seating position, seat contouring for serious driving, Rev limiter bouncing, DRM/SRM, AKEBONO, Rays wheels, ALUMINUM suspension and many other internals are far more superior to the gen, that's why they practically give u a nav for free. They know what they lack. Even the brembos on the Gen need more than just pads n RB600.

You forget unlike everyone else here I know the gencoupe inside out. Nobody here cares to give it respect. I do... I like the gen a lot...but...
It's NO 370Z. Not even a little bit. If you think they're close in performance it's cuz you've never pushed both of them.

The Z needs Koni yellow swifts n an alignment n ur good.

Gen needs the high end stance or ark suspension set up just to compete with a Z.

Keep it real mah man
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Oh... n not to ruffle your feathers, but quit making comparisons from the Genesis to the Z. If you're gonna make an appropriate comparo. Make it with the Q60 coupe or G37.

The Gen will NEVER HANDLE or have the driving dynamics of ANY 2 SEAT sports car let alone the Z. With a 16 hp deficit an automatic Z demolishes auto Gen's. They only compare acceleration in manual transmission.
Steering feel, seating position, seat contouring for serious driving, Rev limiter bouncing, DRM/SRM, AKEBONO, Rays wheels, ALUMINUM suspension and many other internals are far more superior to the gen, that's why they practically give u a nav for free. They know what they lack. Even the brembos on the Gen need more than just pads n RB600.

You forget unlike everyone else here I know the gencoupe inside out. Nobody here cares to give it respect. I do... I like the gen a lot...but...
It's NO 370Z. Not even a little bit. If you think they're close in performance it's cuz you've never pushed both of them.

The Z needs Koni yellow swifts n an alignment n ur good.

Gen needs the high end stance or ark suspension set up just to compete with a Z.

Keep it real mah man
The Z IS a better sports car. I knew that going into it. I never advocated otherwise. But as a DD having both, when money is on the line, I prefer the Genesis. As a DD I beg you to find a flaw against the the 370. IMO, it's a MUCH better DD. There is literally nothing a Z does better as a DD than a 3.8. Again, IMHO, the 3.8 is better in the overwhelming majority of DD activities for 90% of performance for 10k less. Now going to the track...
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The Z IS a better sports car. I knew that going into it. I never advocated otherwise. But as a DD having both, when money is on the line, I prefer the Genesis. As a DD I beg you to find a flaw against the the 370. IMO, it's a MUCH better DD. There is literally nothing a Z does better as a DD than a 3.8. Again, IMHO, the 3.8 is better in the overwhelming majority of DD activities for 90% of performance for 10k less. Now going to the track...

OK but you're contradicting yourself. You want Nissan to make a DD Z EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW!!! ITS NOT A DD CAR!!

Let's get down to brass tax. I have a DD.N I still DD my Z on n off. To me I can DD almost anything. So what you consider DD is subjective. I drive fairly aggressive. I prefer sport position when I drive ALL the time. I TRADED a G37s for a Z. N I didn't opt for all the wacky doo tech junk I had in my infinit. That should tell you a lot.

So yeah,if you like DD'ing 2+2 coupes more? U got NO BUSINESS HOPING FOR A BETTER Z.

It seems Nissan already made your car right now. The Q60 coupe.
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OK but you're contradicting yourself. You want Nissan to make a DD Z EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW!!! ITS NOT A DD CAR!!

Let's get down to brass tax. I have a DD.N I still DD my Z on n off. To me I can DD almost anything. So what you consider DD is subjective. I drive fairly aggressive. I prefer sport position when I drive ALL the time. I TRADED a G37s for a Z. N I didn't opt for all the wacky doo tech junk I had in my infinit. That should tell you a lot.

So yeah,if you like DD'ing 2+2 coupes more? U got NO BUSINESS HOPING FOR A BETTER Z.

It seems Nissan already made your car right now. The Q60 coupe.
Fair enough. I have Volvo S60 that is SUBLIME. Fall sleep in the bastard it's so comfy. My 13 Z was ROUGH. Actually rougher than my 350z. With less tech. How that's possible is beyond me 8 years later. And comfort. I want my 3.8 comfort, Z speed, and FUTURE Genesis tech in a Z35 for $36k. Not base. Now. Leather. Baseball glove stuff. NAV. Home link, NAV, phone integration (I can do all sorts of stuff with my phone to the car. Start. Track, lights). I have all that NOW minus a couple ticks in performance. I EXPECT the Z to to have that in its next model obviously. I've been doing it for two years. Gimme all that and make up for the ticks I lost.
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Fair enough. I have Volvo S60 that is SUBLIME. Fall sleep in the bastard it's so comfy. My 13 Z was ROUGH. Actually rougher than my 350z. With less tech. How that's possible is beyond me 8 years later. And comfort. I want my 3.8 comfort, Z speed, and FUTURE Genesis tech in a Z35 for $36k. Not base. Now. Leather. Baseball glove stuff. NAV. Home link, NAV, phone integration (I can do all sorts of stuff with my phone to the car. Start. Track, lights). I have all that NOW minus a couple ticks in performance. I EXPECT the Z to to have that in its next model obviously. I've been doing it for two years. Gimme all that and make up for the ticks I lost.
Well then the 300hp Z will work for you. If it is 3,000lbs or less? It will be at least 550lbs lighter than your current car and I'm sure the gearing will be aggressive enough to **** all over your Genny once again.

Or you can lose another 50hp and get the 4 banger. That may be slower than your Genny but will still out handle it.

400hp is for the money men. Expect the new Genesis to be infiniti prices. So u may be stuck in a Kia coupe or different less powerful Hyundai RWD coupe?
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Well then the 300hp Z will work for you. If it is 3,000lbs or less? It will be at least 550lbs lighter than your current car and I'm sure the gearing will be aggressive enough to **** all over your Genny once again.

Or you can lose another 50hp and get the 4 banger. That may be slower than your Genny but will still out handle it.

400hp is for the money men. Expect the new Genesis to be infiniti prices. So u may be stuck in a Kia coupe or different less powerful Hyundai RWD coupe?
And there is the argument. You're fighting history and yourself. 2008 Z34 broke boundaries for price and performance. I'm hoping they do it again. That's all. Let's see what they come up to stay AHEAD not competitive, but ahead of the game.
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