Nissan 370Z Forum  

the use of cabin fiber

I was wondering how well carbon fiber will hold up in the long run? Koneissegg uses an all carbon fiber wheels and for their whole car as well. Especially the

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > The Lounge (Off Topic) > Other Vehicles


Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By tvfreakazoid

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-14-2014, 01:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
tvfreakazoid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: kommie kali
Posts: 1,238
Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd.
Rep Power: 10324
tvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond repute
Default the use of cabin fiber

I was wondering how well carbon fiber will hold up in the long run?
Koneissegg uses an all carbon fiber wheels and for their whole car as well.
Especially the wheels. Think of the potential micro fractures that could happen and the structural integrity will be effected.
Same goes for the whole car as well.
Also, pagani uses a carbon/titanium weave in his huayra. Now is that better? Will it hold up just as good as aluminum in the long run?
Just a thought.
I read something that Ferrari doesn't use carbon fiber for the main body due to the fact that it will be harder to detect potential issues that I mentioned above.
As for the la Ferrari, I think its made of carbon fiber. So I guess they only do it for their super cars.
Just curious
__________________
Mudders milk

http://www.the370z.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=1188&dateline=1232328  539
tvfreakazoid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2014, 08:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Haboob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Surface of the sun.
Posts: 13,159
Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG
Rep Power: 1386
Haboob has a reputation beyond reputeHaboob has a reputation beyond reputeHaboob has a reputation beyond reputeHaboob has a reputation beyond reputeHaboob has a reputation beyond reputeHaboob has a reputation beyond reputeHaboob has a reputation beyond reputeHaboob has a reputation beyond reputeHaboob has a reputation beyond reputeHaboob has a reputation beyond reputeHaboob has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I think it will be just fine. It's put under huge stress in racing (especially F1) and doesn't seem to have any issues. I think that says a lot.

As for consumer cars, I don't think it poses any problems other than people not knowing how to drive their super/hyper cars.
Haboob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2014, 08:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jordo!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: nirvana
Posts: 6,394
Drives: 2023 NATM
Rep Power: 417
Jordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Our driveshafts are made of a carbon fiber-plastic composite. It's pretty strong stuff.

The major issue with cf panels or parts is that if they break, as far as I know, they are pretty much trashed, but they are light and very, very strong.

As far as detecting defects -- meaning if there's subtle structural damage its hard to detect and therefore a safety issue?

At this point, I think the main issue is cost -- the raw materials and the manufacturing process isn't cheap, relative to aluminum. Then again, Ford was going to use hemp fiber for car panels at one point in time allegedly, so who knows...
__________________
Enjoy it. Destroy it.

Last edited by Jordo!; 12-15-2014 at 09:01 AM.
Jordo! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2014, 10:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
Track Member
 
RicerX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: TN
Posts: 597
Drives: To the Pizza joint.
Rep Power: 7720
RicerX has a reputation beyond reputeRicerX has a reputation beyond reputeRicerX has a reputation beyond reputeRicerX has a reputation beyond reputeRicerX has a reputation beyond reputeRicerX has a reputation beyond reputeRicerX has a reputation beyond reputeRicerX has a reputation beyond reputeRicerX has a reputation beyond reputeRicerX has a reputation beyond reputeRicerX has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I have never heard of cabin fiber. Might be worth a shot. Sounds like it could be beneficial if you're running the HVAC on the recirculation setting after binge eating taco bell.
RicerX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2014, 10:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324197
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The wheels are the only item that I could see being a problem and only after abuse (hitting curbs and potholes). As Haboob and Jordo! point out, CF is already being used, with great success, in race and consumer applications.

UV degradation may be a long-term problem for body panels but a good coat of paint will solve that.
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2014, 11:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Zoren 370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: FL
Posts: 11,018
Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6
Rep Power: 1913653
Zoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond reputeZoren 370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

A lot stronger than steel and light as a feather.
The only thing I can think of the danger which has been seen on F1 and lemans they are designed to break off to disperse impact which is very good!
But the splinter from it could be deadly once hit.
Zoren 370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2014, 04:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
tvfreakazoid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: kommie kali
Posts: 1,238
Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd.
Rep Power: 10324
tvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond reputetvfreakazoid has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Damn I didn't catch the misspelling LOL.
I was just curious.
The koniessegg "the one" goes for $3 million. Only six will be made.
RicerX likes this.
__________________
Mudders milk

http://www.the370z.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=1188&dateline=1232328  539
tvfreakazoid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2014, 04:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Zteven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Southern California
Posts: 196
Drives: 13' Silver / 10' Blk
Rep Power: 11
Zteven is on a distinguished road
Default

As previously stated its strong and light, won't hold up great if continuously exposed to the sun over time
__________________

Zteven is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cabin air filter cjr1881 Nissan 370Z Warranty / Scheduled Maintenance / Servicing / Repairs 9 08-19-2013 02:52 PM
Why is my cabin so hot! Z370Z011 Exterior & Interior 29 08-10-2012 08:57 PM
A/C off and recirculating cabin air falconfixer Nissan 370Z General Discussions 3 06-12-2012 11:26 AM
In Cabin Filter tonythetiger Nissan 370Z Warranty / Scheduled Maintenance / Servicing / Repairs 2 02-22-2012 05:29 PM
Cabin air filter av370 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 3 07-17-2009 08:29 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2