Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

Shamu · 05-15-2012, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vo2max99

The VAST majority who've tested the BRZ / FR-S say it's a phenomenal sports car not in need of more power (Car and Driver; Road&Track; Motor Trend; Edmunds, Automobile Mag; etc,etc..)

Judging the car based on test track #'s (apparently this is what EVO does) doesn't even begin to scratch the surface.

The Z is in a different league? Sure and if judging solely by #'s most other cars 35K and under are in a "different league" compared to the BRZ / FR-S.

The BRZ / FR-S weren't built to produce fast test track #'s. They were built to be excellent driver's cars and by ALL accounts (other than EVO I suppose because they judge more on #'s) they've delivered.

A turbo kit would do nothing other than make the BRZ / FR-S produce quicker test track #'s. The vast majority who've actually test driven the car say it has just the right balance of power to make it a blast to drive on a daily bases. A turbo kit would be a waste of money / ruin the cars great balance.

The bottom line is that at least 9/10 say the BRZ / FR-S are among the best cars to drive right up there with the Mazda MX-5 Miata. So if this is indeed the case the car is going to be phenomenal.

As they said theirselves if you want #'s they have the STi. If you want a driver's car the BRZ / FR-S deliver.

You can mod the hell out of an STi and have a blast for short 3-4 second burst at a time. Personally I'd rather have a car I can drive closer to 99% for 99% of the time.

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EVO drivers are much more like minded to enthusiast drivers. They took it on 1000 km road trip. Quite opposite from your assumption. They see BRZ as being awesome track toy where you thrash it to death but the took brz on extended trip on country roads with competing cars. Spent a lot of non track time. They wanted to love the car but couldn't. It's way too buttoned down with not enough power.

They indicated they often were lacking torque and engine is not rewarding but very thrashy. Indicated its very well executed but very boring to drive on the street.

Makes sense to me 2700 lbs of car plus driver are a lot for a little 2.o to haul around. They indicated car is lifeless on street until you get it over 5000 rpm.

Also indicated its toy like. They gave it 3.5 stars. 370z got better rating.

I'll stay with my grown up Z thank you.

They also tested old Wrx against it and said wrx was more exciting to drive. That's pretty damning!

Also ran it on the track were a front wheel drive Renault was putting 5 seconds a lap on it! Ouch!

Here you go

http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/trackday...est_video.html

http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/planetev...road_trip.html

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