Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

Jordo! · 11-05-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

HP/L is an engineers spec, but as a driver, I'm not too impressed. I care more about the lbs/hp, and that spec is not terribly impressive.

Hear, hear!

takjak2 · 11-05-2011, 08:28 PM

Called a Toyota dealership in Nashville asking for delivery dates for a test drive. Their new car manager knew nothing about the vehicle, said it has never come up in his future-planning meetings through 2013, and told me to try calling the separate Scion dealership. So I talked to that new-car manager, who said they don't have anything for dates but expect to get them in spring. He'll call me back with any info they get and try to get me the first test drive.

I didn't let on that I have no intention of actually buying one

Red__Zed · 11-05-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Hear, hear!

unless of course they made it super light or super cheap. I'm not seeing the value as it sits, may reconsider once I drive one though.

FL 4Motion · 11-05-2011, 08:31 PM

If this car had even 220 to 240 hp, I think it would be world's better. That said, I've owned two miata's in the past and if car delivers the driving "pleasure" and engagement of those cars, it will still be a hoot to toss around on some back roads.

Rui Z · 11-06-2011, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

HP/L is an engineers spec, but as a driver, I'm not too impressed. I care more about the lbs/hp, and that spec is not terribly impressive.

Well Jordos comments were more about engineers spec (high compression ratio, 91 octane, direct injection), so i was responding to that when I listed those hp/l numbers.

I realize this is gonna be a slow car compared to the Z. i dont believe Toyota/Subaru were ever trying to build a fast car. They wanted something more like a miata than a Z.

Red__Zed · 11-06-2011, 06:42 AM

^yeah, but as it sits, it will get left by an s2k

Thechidz · 11-06-2011, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1

Not bad, but the Z looks better imo. Although if they changed the rims out, kept the weight around 2500lbs and put the 265hp boxer engine in it, this could be a great car.

m4a1mustang · 11-06-2011, 10:39 AM

I am sure there will be some sort of performance version from Subaru at some point. It would probably be a hit.

Either way, RWD FT-86 beats the crap out of FWD Celica any day of the week, IMO. Even if the car isn't fast at all it should still be high up in the fun factor given its low CG and light weight.

Skeeterbop · 11-06-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z

I realize this is gonna be a slow car compared to the Z. i dont believe Toyota/Subaru were ever trying to build a fast car. They wanted something more like a miata than a Z.

If it handles like a miata, it will be a blast on the backroads. It may not have the power that some wish, but I think you are right. They probably want this to compete with the miata, which given the details, it should be pretty evenly matched. We will just have to wait and see what happens when the test drives start coming in.

Isamu · 11-07-2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbop

If it handles like a miata, it will be a blast on the backroads. It may not have the power that some wish, but I think you are right. They probably want this to compete with the miata, which given the details, it should be pretty evenly matched. We will just have to wait and see what happens when the test drives start coming in.

Red__Zed · 11-07-2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbop

If it handles like a miata, it will be a blast on the backroads. It may not have the power that some wish, but I think you are right. They probably want this to compete with the miata, which given the details, it should be pretty evenly matched. We will just have to wait and see what happens when the test drives start coming in.

It's just a tough market, especially with the s2k still recent enough that you can snag a clean example

m4a1mustang · 11-07-2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It's just a tough market, especially with the s2k still recent enough that you can snag a clean example

True.

But it will probably be popular amongst kids. I have a feeling they will be expensive to insure. RWD + high school = risk.

Isamu · 11-07-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

True.

But it will probably be popular amongst kids. I have a feeling they will be expensive to insure. RWD + high school = risk.

fuckin kids

Lug · 11-07-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

^yeah, but as it sits, it will get left by an s2k

MSRP on an S2000 was 34K to 37K. It had better be able to handle this car!

Red__Zed · 11-07-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

MSRP on an S2000 was 34K to 37K. It had better be able to handle this car!

They haven't sold at Msrp since '99 though.

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