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I think it looks pretty good. I just hate that if it does make it here all the honda kids will think they own a Ferrari. It's bad enough the

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Old 10-02-2014, 02:59 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I think it looks pretty good.
I just hate that if it does make it here all the honda kids will think they own a Ferrari. It's bad enough the FR-S guys think they have a fast car... I could only imagine how the honda crowd will be, racing anything they can.
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Way to rice. God thats awful.
lol, everybody's a critic.. go play with your gennie... your kind isn't welcomed here...
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Thats a bit harsh.
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I have owned 4 Hondas and still own 2 currently along with my Z. However my 2 Hondas are from a time Honda still had some fun little cars on the road, the 2000s fell on their face so fast and still do today. If I could talk in their ear, I would say guys, bring 1000 of these to the USA and see how they sell. Number it like the ITR's back in the day and don't flood the market. Build the demand that way so you don't flood it and let them sit on the lot. Honda feels if the car doesn't sell 100k units, they are fails. But in my eyes, get the younger buyers in the showroom now and keep them later when they need 4 door cars. I bought my Z as no other company made fun sporty looking or feeling cars and I love the fact I did that. The Z doesn't sell loads but Nissan still makes it! I used to hate Hyundai but in the last 5 years they have stepped up so much, guess who was at Hyundai last week jumping in a Hyundai Genesis '15 sedan for a possible future 4 door. And they are just amazing. Acura on the other hand has fallen so fast like their Honda line, utter bleh. In short, Honda needs to bring this car to America to start reviving its brand to younger buyers. They are their future after all!
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Thats a bit harsh.


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it might be wild on the styling, but it's cool to see companies bringing out something wild..
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I think I'd still opt for a turbo veloceter over that... or maybe a GT-I.

It's just... not very pretty, at least to my eye
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I think I'd still opt for a turbo veloceter over that... or maybe a GT-I.

It's just... not very pretty, at least to my eye
I own a turbo veloster. Unless you want to deal with the worst suspension setup ever, I would go with the turbo civic.
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I own a turbo veloster. Unless you want to deal with the worst suspension setup ever, I would go with the turbo civic.
I have a soft spot in my heart for civics
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People have short term memories or are too young too remember what it was like to race against modified civics and integras in the 90's. If this car is a resurgence of that era? This car will be very respectable. That said, respectable hatches don't come to the US anymore... Ford, AN AMERICAN CORPORATION even took 2 decades to give us the European focus. Lol.
I think the "sport compact" era is a bygone. That's the "JDM, tuner crowd." I doubt there will be a resurgence.

It was cool when it was novel, when guys were swapping a twin-cammed VTECs in a 2000lb. CRX/Civic able to keep up with a stock Camaro V8 or something, bitd. Or when people turbo'd their motors with custom turbo setups...and Hondas hit 12s or faster. But when it became ubiquitous in the later 90s to mid 2000s....it lost its panache.

We're too spoiled these days anyways, with cars that are already really fast stock. I mean, supercars were doing low 13s/high 12s 10 yrs. ago. Now 12s is what the low 14s were bitd. Car manufacturers are gunning for 10s and 130+ trap speeds and 650+ hp. It's getting crazy...and I'm digressing
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I think the car looks great. I'm happy to see that Honda is stepping their game up after all these years. Starting with a turbo platform, I bet the aftermarket for this thing will be nuts
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I think the "sport compact" era is a bygone. That's the "JDM, tuner crowd." I doubt there will be a resurgence.

It was cool when it was novel, when guys were swapping a twin-cammed VTECs in a 2000lb. CRX/Civic able to keep up with a stock Camaro V8 or something, bitd. Or when people turbo'd their motors with custom turbo setups...and Hondas hit 12s or faster. But when it became ubiquitous in the later 90s to mid 2000s....it lost its panache.

We're too spoiled these days anyways, with cars that are already really fast stock. I mean, supercars were doing low 13s/high 12s 10 yrs. ago. Now 12s is what the low 14s were bitd. Car manufacturers are gunning for 10s and 130+ trap speeds and 650+ hp. It's getting crazy...and I'm digressing
This is why the civic si and Integra gs-r were indoctrinated. So there were no longer a need for engine swaps in the U.S.
Tuning as whole is not as popular anymore. I don't think it's because of a lack of interest or "better stock motors". It's literally because the F&F movie series single-handedly commercialized racing/tuning and murdered the affordability of the sport/artform.
What was a reasonable sport for the working poor is now an expensive pastime for the wealthy. For some reason, the wealthy no longer go into Porsche and higher dealerships to buy sports cars on the same level they used to. They buy sub-premium cars, then take their brand new cars to tuner shops and have a completely modified car 8 weeks after a cars release. It's no longer the slow caring process it once was. And the ones who do are a minority nowadays.
It's not that it's a novelty, commercialization has placed tuning/racing out of the average Joe's monitary reach.

Turbo engines will hopefully give the working poor back some of it's access due to less complex parts and procedures to tune turbo engines. NA engines cost way too much to get serious power out of, unless you intend for your car to only receive breather mods. This Honda definitely gives more access and I expect it to be an aftermarket success
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I wonder how it'll sound with 2 Folger's cans under the back end? If this thing ever made it to the US, I'm buying stock in Autozone and Pep Boys.
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