I'm waiting to see what kinda 1/4 mile #'s the 10sp. ZL1 is gonna throw...the SS numbers are pretty good stock & street tires.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...009b4d9e6f.jpg


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https://youtu.be/WOxmV-NxEZU


F dual mode exhaust!!! Aftermarket status!

That's the one dealership by me. The YouTube kid who's video you posted is pet of my cars and coffee lol

I rented one a couple weeks back. The v6 pulls strong and the AT bangs out shifts nicely in performance shift mode. I wish you could select that most ad hoc but I'm sure there will be some flash to handle that.

The car definitely handles better than the '15, I think the loss in weight is noticeable but it's still a giant car. The interior is surprisingly cramped though, it's not much bigger than the Z despite the mass amounts of sheet metal. Interior is definitely a step up from the last gen.. Still lots of cheap plastics but it looks and feels much better. I hated the climate controls....you turn the vent rings to control fan and temp. Doesn't feel natural and the temp display is tiny (but it also displays on the screen to make up for it).

I've never liked the Camaro exterior and I think this looks worse. The squeezed headlights and taillights look tacky to me, especially since the car itself is still pretty big. Just looks out of proportion.

Over all I think the mustang styling but preferred how the Camaro drove. Mash the two together and I'd consider getting myself a muscle car!

I rented one a couple weeks back. The v6 pulls strong and the AT bangs out shifts nicely in performance shift mode. I wish you could select that most ad hoc but I'm sure there will be some flash to handle that.

The car definitely handles better than the '15, I think the loss in weight is noticeable but it's still a giant car. Since this was a v6 model I expected some body roll but it was much better than the barge the previous gen was. The ride is firm but compliant and would he comfortable for long drives.

The interior is surprisingly cramped though, it's not much bigger than the Z despite the mass amounts of sheet metal. Interior is definitely a step up from the last gen.. Still lots of cheap plastics but it looks and feels much better. I hated the climate controls....you turn the vent rings to control fan and temp. Doesn't feel natural and the temp display is tiny (but it also displays on the screen to make up for it). The dash screen is also angled down which makes it look weird in my opinion, but it's a large screen and incorporates phone mirroring which is nice. The rimless rear view mirror is a nice touch but the stupid onstar buttons are incorporated into the bottom of the mirror so it's very easy to accidentally dial them while adjusting the mirror. I know because I made two 'emergrncy' calls by accident. Also the onstar buttons do not dim so having a bright blue light in your face at night is annoying.

I've never liked the Camaro exterior and I think this looks worse. The squeezed headlights and taillights look tacky to me, especially since the car itself is still pretty big. Just looks out of proportion.

Over all I like the mustang styling but preferred how the Camaro drove. Mash the two together and I'd consider getting myself a muscle car!

I can definitely see where many will prefer the Mustang styling. The Mustang looks like it will age very well. With the exception of the ZL-1 thus far. Most of these camaros look like they will look dated in 3 years.

You should find out if he's a cuckold. His girl is hot! Lol.

ehhhh id say ok.

he's a weird looking bastard but a nice guy from the times i've talked to him.

https://youtu.be/3DVsK5_WwiU

Subaru compares turbo stang to turbo camaro.

...........he would own a 4 banger mustang :facepalm:

In all fairness, these 4 bangers are almost as fast as a 87 grand national. And are cheap to MOD.

https://youtu.be/D87tO7VUs2I

M4 vs SS

I didn't expect the camaro to topple an M4 in so many ways. It seems like now the Germans have gotten somewhat lackadaisical in there approach to performance cars. I understand there's pressure to be fuel efficient in Europe to levels not endured in the U.S. but AMG has seemed to overcome those obstacles rather well. BMW I believe has gotten comfortable because BMW buyers for the most part, will accept anything BMW puts out as the best in the game. No matter how flawed it's become. BMW is the most brand bias corporation, followed by Porsche. Loads of false pride in that market. These two companies can build a any **** mobile and put any price tag on it.... it will be honored and sell very well.
Then you have R&T and car & driver that will give some excuse for bimmer flaws. I laughed when R&T said, the q60 is no BMW. YEAH.... I agree. Something tells me it will be better in terms of price to performance.

Maybe this review will be BMW's wake up call to take it back to the 80's.

https://youtu.be/RN5J0-W29dg

So Camaro mitigated front weight with carbon fiber and lightweight materials to keep the ZL-1 from being front heavy. I wonder how this version will do on a track? At about 3800lbs and 640hp,it should feel rather light on its feet considering TORQUE is also 640lbs tq.

whats the Z06 weight at? like 3500lbs right? sooooo aside from aero it's not far off from that and still has a capable suspension set up.

could be a pretty good track contender since the SS matches up on an M4

M4 - 3556/3644lbs MT/AT 430hp
camaro v8 ss - 3685/3760lbs MT/AT 460hp

the stats on paper are even as well.