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I'm just not a GM man... at all... but they are on point lately. By a lot. They just seem so inspired to build great sports cars. I really hope
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I'm just not a GM man... at all... but they are on point lately. By a lot. They just seem so inspired to build great sports cars. I really hope Nissan can get there, but I'm not sure they will. I'm even more suspicious that they will use the Infiniti brand for anything that's not a cookie-cutter crossover, or any type of high-volume car in general.
Back to the GM - the new Camaro is sick. However, it hasn't been out long enough to blossom into its rightful place as the exciting rental car you can get at Hertz, or the sports car driven by every single redneck that won't by a Camaro. The ZL1 will be exclusive enough, but even then, you have the old-south rich that will lap those up. I feel younger buyers may have a window of exclusivity, but soon you'll see so many of these things with extra stripes, fake vents, and chrome grille inserts that it'll make your head spin. The Vette isn't aging well to me (just like nearly every Vette since the original Stingray) but the Z06 and new Grand Sport are just freakin sweet. I'd take a Grand Sport all day - I like the idea of the n/a V8 with all the fun bits around it from the Z06. The car GM is making that is really tugging at me right now is the ATS-V. A solid sport sedan with a manual. What a sweet freakin idea. If it had an Infiniti badge on it, I would already have one. I have a lot of problems with putting my money into a GM product given their recent history with burdening the taxpayer with their mismanagement and their quality control issues that have resulted in the deaths of people. Other than that, they're doing great. |
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The GS would be the only way to go. I think GM shouldn't even sell the base body. The corvette interior, as much as they improved it, already looks kind of dated. And the plastic looks cheap around the dash. For about $1,900 you can completely retrofit the interior with carbon fiber to get the cheapest plastic out. But the camaro interior really looks like what the vette should have looked like inside. It's amazing to me how much the camaro is superior to the vette in terms of the interior.
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actually.......i think honda ricers are better than mustang owners.
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I dunno. Those Honda and 90's RSX with their fart cans. Those piece of ***** with exhaust dangling and gutted interior are the worst. Just yesterday I'm driving and it was a 90's civic, maybe RSX, real **** box either way, revving at me at the stop light. Just put windows up and still heard it farting as it made its turn. God awful.
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They thought and hoped the camaro would have the same drawbacks. But Chevy pulled through like champeens baby!!! 250lb average for weight reduction The fastest camaro in history. Then mustang fans thought the 350GT Would be the resurrection of mustang. Go find the thread on here. LMFAO. You'll see me saying the 350 won't cut it and others throwing me mustang history, pedigree and competitiveness.... Now we're here. The mustang didn't cut it. It's an awesome car though.... But mustang fanboys are either over glorifying it or making excuses for it. As far as mullets go.... any muscle car is a mullet machine. Chevy, Ford, Dodge. Lol. I'm not a muscle car guy.... but I have a muscle car soul. Looking from the outside in objectively. Camaro!!
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Wish they had telemetry in the video.
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The car definitely handles better than the '15, I think the loss in weight is noticeable but it's still a giant car. The interior is surprisingly cramped though, it's not much bigger than the Z despite the mass amounts of sheet metal. Interior is definitely a step up from the last gen.. Still lots of cheap plastics but it looks and feels much better. I hated the climate controls....you turn the vent rings to control fan and temp. Doesn't feel natural and the temp display is tiny (but it also displays on the screen to make up for it). I've never liked the Camaro exterior and I think this looks worse. The squeezed headlights and taillights look tacky to me, especially since the car itself is still pretty big. Just looks out of proportion. Over all I think the mustang styling but preferred how the Camaro drove. Mash the two together and I'd consider getting myself a muscle car! |
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The car definitely handles better than the '15, I think the loss in weight is noticeable but it's still a giant car. Since this was a v6 model I expected some body roll but it was much better than the barge the previous gen was. The ride is firm but compliant and would he comfortable for long drives. The interior is surprisingly cramped though, it's not much bigger than the Z despite the mass amounts of sheet metal. Interior is definitely a step up from the last gen.. Still lots of cheap plastics but it looks and feels much better. I hated the climate controls....you turn the vent rings to control fan and temp. Doesn't feel natural and the temp display is tiny (but it also displays on the screen to make up for it). The dash screen is also angled down which makes it look weird in my opinion, but it's a large screen and incorporates phone mirroring which is nice. The rimless rear view mirror is a nice touch but the stupid onstar buttons are incorporated into the bottom of the mirror so it's very easy to accidentally dial them while adjusting the mirror. I know because I made two 'emergrncy' calls by accident. Also the onstar buttons do not dim so having a bright blue light in your face at night is annoying. I've never liked the Camaro exterior and I think this looks worse. The squeezed headlights and taillights look tacky to me, especially since the car itself is still pretty big. Just looks out of proportion. Over all I like the mustang styling but preferred how the Camaro drove. Mash the two together and I'd consider getting myself a muscle car! Last edited by b15; 03-27-2016 at 02:12 PM. |
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