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I'm just not a GM man... at all... but they are on point lately. By a lot. They just seem so inspired to build great sports cars. I really hope Nissan can get there, but I'm not sure they will. I'm even more suspicious that they will use the Infiniti brand for anything that's not a cookie-cutter crossover, or any type of high-volume car in general.

Back to the GM - the new Camaro is sick. However, it hasn't been out long enough to blossom into its rightful place as the exciting rental car you can get at Hertz, or the sports car driven by every single redneck that won't by a Camaro. The ZL1 will be exclusive enough, but even then, you have the old-south rich that will lap those up. I feel younger buyers may have a window of exclusivity, but soon you'll see so many of these things with extra stripes, fake vents, and chrome grille inserts that it'll make your head spin.

The Vette isn't aging well to me (just like nearly every Vette since the original Stingray) but the Z06 and new Grand Sport are just freakin sweet. I'd take a Grand Sport all day - I like the idea of the n/a V8 with all the fun bits around it from the Z06.

The car GM is making that is really tugging at me right now is the ATS-V. A solid sport sedan with a manual. What a sweet freakin idea. If it had an Infiniti badge on it, I would already have one. I have a lot of problems with putting my money into a GM product given their recent history with burdening the taxpayer with their mismanagement and their quality control issues that have resulted in the deaths of people. Other than that, they're doing great.
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I'm just not a GM man... at all... but they are on point lately. By a lot. They just seem so inspired to build great sports cars. I really hope Nissan can get there, but I'm not sure they will. I'm even more suspicious that they will use the Infiniti brand for anything that's not a cookie-cutter crossover, or any type of high-volume car in general.

Back to the GM - the new Camaro is sick. However, it hasn't been out long enough to blossom into its rightful place as the exciting rental car you can get at Hertz, or the sports car driven by every single redneck that won't by a Camaro. The ZL1 will be exclusive enough, but even then, you have the old-south rich that will lap those up. I feel younger buyers may have a window of exclusivity, but soon you'll see so many of these things with extra stripes, fake vents, and chrome grille inserts that it'll make your head spin.

The Vette isn't aging well to me (just like nearly every Vette since the original Stingray) but the Z06 and new Grand Sport are just freakin sweet. I'd take a Grand Sport all day - I like the idea of the n/a V8 with all the fun bits around it from the Z06.

The car GM is making that is really tugging at me right now is the ATS-V. A solid sport sedan with a manual. What a sweet freakin idea. If it had an Infiniti badge on it, I would already have one. I have a lot of problems with putting my money into a GM product given their recent history with burdening the taxpayer with their mismanagement and their quality control issues that have resulted in the deaths of people. Other than that, they're doing great.
I agree the base Vette just looks shittie.... The subtle enhancements of the GS/Z06 make a WORLD of difference. The base vette wore out in looks to me 2 weeks after release. But the Z06 in the right colors just looks great.

The GS would be the only way to go. I think GM shouldn't even sell the base body.

The corvette interior, as much as they improved it, already looks kind of dated. And the plastic looks cheap around the dash. For about $1,900 you can completely retrofit the interior with carbon fiber to get the cheapest plastic out. But the camaro interior really looks like what the vette should have looked like inside. It's amazing to me how much the camaro is superior to the vette in terms of the interior.
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This Fvckin ZL-1 WOW!

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MUSTANG DECIMATED!!!
Yea, i think everyone knew the stang didn't have a chance. Still like it more though. Lol. Camaro...can't get past its mullet history. All you shut up if I'm driving one next year.
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yeah but the camaro following is superior to mustang drivers.

actually.......i think honda ricers are better than mustang owners.

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yeah but the camaro following is superior to mustang drivers.

actually.......i think honda ricers are better than mustang owners.

I dunno. Those Honda and 90's RSX with their fart cans. Those piece of ***** with exhaust dangling and gutted interior are the worst. Just yesterday I'm driving and it was a 90's civic, maybe RSX, real **** box either way, revving at me at the stop light. Just put windows up and still heard it farting as it made its turn. God awful.
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I dunno. Those Honda and 90's RSX with their fart cans. Those piece of ***** with exhaust dangling and gutted interior are the worst. Just yesterday I'm driving and it was a 90's civic, maybe RSX, real **** box either way, revving at me at the stop light. Just put windows up and still heard it farting as it made its turn. God awful.
but..........the mustangs are worse lol
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Yea, i think everyone knew the stang didn't have a chance. Still like it more though. Lol. Camaro...can't get past its mullet history. All you shut up if I'm driving one next year.
No.... mustang fanboys said they will decimate the camaro with there new mustang back in 2013. Ford was bragging about 400lb weight reductions and 20 horsepower boosts. Then the car was born heavier and slower. Everyone said "Jungle Z" comments about the camaro. That it was going to fall on its ***. That GM would have to succumb to the same weight penalty as mustang because of new safety regulations....
They thought and hoped the camaro would have the same drawbacks. But Chevy pulled through like champeens baby!!!

250lb average for weight reduction

The fastest camaro in history.

Then mustang fans thought the 350GT Would be the resurrection of mustang. Go find the thread on here. LMFAO. You'll see me saying the 350 won't cut it and others throwing me mustang history, pedigree and competitiveness....

Now we're here. The mustang didn't cut it. It's an awesome car though.... But mustang fanboys are either over glorifying it or making excuses for it.

As far as mullets go.... any muscle car is a mullet machine. Chevy, Ford, Dodge. Lol.

I'm not a muscle car guy.... but I have a muscle car soul. Looking from the outside in objectively.

Camaro!!
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Then mustang fans thought the 350GT Would be the resurrection of mustang. Go find the thread on here. LMFAO. You'll see me saying the 350 won't cut it and others throwing me mustang history, pedigree and competitiveness....


Camaro!!
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No.... mustang fanboys said they will decimate the camaro with there new mustang back in 2013. Ford was bragging about 400lb weight reductions and 20 horsepower boosts. Then the car was born heavier and slower. Everyone said "Jungle Z" comments about the camaro. That it was going to fall on its ***. That GM would have to succumb to the same weight penalty as mustang because of new safety regulations....
They thought and hoped the camaro would have the same drawbacks. But Chevy pulled through like champeens baby!!!




Camaro!!
Great (rumoured) news for Mustang Fanboys

I remember that.

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I rented one a couple weeks back. The v6 pulls strong and the AT bangs out shifts nicely in performance shift mode. I wish you could select that most ad hoc but I'm sure there will be some flash to handle that.

The car definitely handles better than the '15, I think the loss in weight is noticeable but it's still a giant car. The interior is surprisingly cramped though, it's not much bigger than the Z despite the mass amounts of sheet metal. Interior is definitely a step up from the last gen.. Still lots of cheap plastics but it looks and feels much better. I hated the climate controls....you turn the vent rings to control fan and temp. Doesn't feel natural and the temp display is tiny (but it also displays on the screen to make up for it).

I've never liked the Camaro exterior and I think this looks worse. The squeezed headlights and taillights look tacky to me, especially since the car itself is still pretty big. Just looks out of proportion.

Over all I think the mustang styling but preferred how the Camaro drove. Mash the two together and I'd consider getting myself a muscle car!
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I rented one a couple weeks back. The v6 pulls strong and the AT bangs out shifts nicely in performance shift mode. I wish you could select that most ad hoc but I'm sure there will be some flash to handle that.

The car definitely handles better than the '15, I think the loss in weight is noticeable but it's still a giant car. Since this was a v6 model I expected some body roll but it was much better than the barge the previous gen was. The ride is firm but compliant and would he comfortable for long drives.

The interior is surprisingly cramped though, it's not much bigger than the Z despite the mass amounts of sheet metal. Interior is definitely a step up from the last gen.. Still lots of cheap plastics but it looks and feels much better. I hated the climate controls....you turn the vent rings to control fan and temp. Doesn't feel natural and the temp display is tiny (but it also displays on the screen to make up for it). The dash screen is also angled down which makes it look weird in my opinion, but it's a large screen and incorporates phone mirroring which is nice. The rimless rear view mirror is a nice touch but the stupid onstar buttons are incorporated into the bottom of the mirror so it's very easy to accidentally dial them while adjusting the mirror. I know because I made two 'emergrncy' calls by accident. Also the onstar buttons do not dim so having a bright blue light in your face at night is annoying.

I've never liked the Camaro exterior and I think this looks worse. The squeezed headlights and taillights look tacky to me, especially since the car itself is still pretty big. Just looks out of proportion.

Over all I like the mustang styling but preferred how the Camaro drove. Mash the two together and I'd consider getting myself a muscle car!

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I rented one a couple weeks back. The v6 pulls strong and the AT bangs out shifts nicely in performance shift mode. I wish you could select that most ad hoc but I'm sure there will be some flash to handle that.

The car definitely handles better than the '15, I think the loss in weight is noticeable but it's still a giant car. Since this was a v6 model I expected some body roll but it was much better than the barge the previous gen was. The ride is firm but compliant and would he comfortable for long drives.

The interior is surprisingly cramped though, it's not much bigger than the Z despite the mass amounts of sheet metal. Interior is definitely a step up from the last gen.. Still lots of cheap plastics but it looks and feels much better. I hated the climate controls....you turn the vent rings to control fan and temp. Doesn't feel natural and the temp display is tiny (but it also displays on the screen to make up for it). The dash screen is also angled down which makes it look weird in my opinion, but it's a large screen and incorporates phone mirroring which is nice. The rimless rear view mirror is a nice touch but the stupid onstar buttons are incorporated into the bottom of the mirror so it's very easy to accidentally dial them while adjusting the mirror. I know because I made two 'emergrncy' calls by accident. Also the onstar buttons do not dim so having a bright blue light in your face at night is annoying.

I've never liked the Camaro exterior and I think this looks worse. The squeezed headlights and taillights look tacky to me, especially since the car itself is still pretty big. Just looks out of proportion.

Over all I like the mustang styling but preferred how the Camaro drove. Mash the two together and I'd consider getting myself a muscle car!
I can definitely see where many will prefer the Mustang styling. The Mustang looks like it will age very well. With the exception of the ZL-1 thus far. Most of these camaros look like they will look dated in 3 years.
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