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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 Yeah, Porch makes nice cars lmao i say porch too por sha or however you're supposed to say it sounds pretty gay
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I SAY "Porsh", I write "Porch" to piss off the Porch owners and enthusiasts
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Kind of a bummer if it is heavier after all the talk from them about making it lighter. We all know weight doesn't stop a car from being stupid fast (GT-R, ZL1, Z/28, etc) but they tend to be more fun when they are smaller.
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I'm not so sure about the other two. One of our national-competitor drivers just bought a Z28 and brought it to this past weekend's event. He was about 0.7 seconds behind a stock-class BRZ and about 1.3 seconds faster than a stock-class Mini. (this was on an 80-second course) He could get faster with some more familiarity with the car, but he's a good driver and I'm sure he got in the ball-park of the car's abilities within a run or two. Don't get me wrong, I like the car. Parked in staging, it looked like it was going to take other cars' lunch money, and the poor little Mini, that was parked to its right, looked like something the Z28 had just shat out. It's a great looking car with a ton of power. I just don't think I could pull the trigger on a car that expensive when it can't really "dance". |
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The Z/28 wasn't really meant to auto-x, it's a road car. I'm sure with some more wheel time he will be able to get much closer to the BRZ and on a road course the BRZ might as well not even show up. The Z/28 has proven to compete with the likes of the GTR. While it's expensive for a Camaro in general it's got the moves and the power to back it up. I'm sure you know, as you seem like a regular auto-xer, that more powerful cars don't usually translate to good auto-x times. I mean i've seen a guy with a beat to crap, stock, automatic, **** tires toyota paseo run one of the best times at an auto-x event. He did it just as a joke, regular car is a prepped miata, but the point is light weight low power vehicles tend to do much better at auto-x.
As for the topic, will wait to see the specs from Ford when it is released |
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I agree. I'm just saying that I wouldn't spend that kind of money on a car with its particular set of compromises.
Ironically, Ford's Mustang (the last couple iterations anyway) has done much better on course than it's specs on paper would have suggested. I'm curious to see how this new one will perform. |
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Chevy is saying lighter Camaro, but we will have to see. but the Camaro will not be dealing with new variables either, so I expect a 3600 pound or less Camaro.
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Bring me a nice fat Firebird -- otherwise, I don't care, although from a strictly technical standpoint, I'm disappointed. Adding a modern suspension shouldn't carry hundreds of extra pounds with it...
I'll hold out for a slightly skinnier Z35, whatever Toyota makes of the FT1 (if anything) or, if I have the money, a boosted Z4.
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If those numbers are true then it's not too bad. +89 lbs for the GT Manual, which is probably an improvement since you are ditching the 100+ lbs of unsprung live axle and most likely shifting the balance rearward and closer to 50/50. Would have been nice to actually drop weight, but it's still going to be a ringer.
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I love the new look, smoother lines. Actually has a bit of sex appeal. Bout time! I dig it!
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