Nissan Corp. bullying American employees.

SouthArk370Z

There are good companies and there are bad companies. There are good unions and there are bad unions. I've worked for companies where we laughed at the union organizers that showed up and I have been a union (OCAW) rep at places where a union really was needed.

It works great when the union and the company realize that they are not always enemies and when both sides try to increase the bottom line for everybody. But either side can throw a monkey wrench in the works. I've seen too much greed on both sides of the table.

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Chuck33079

It could be worse than the UAW. My dad spent a big chunk of his career working with the Teamsters in trucking on the East coast. Some of the stories would turn your hair white. It's some Sopranos **** for sure.

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Jordo!

Right. But you can evaluate specific metrics like compensation, profits, etc and its not as if corporations and unions (or even union bosses) are equally winning.

UAW really cut their own throats during the auto bailout in terms of public image (and actual effectiveness), but an anti-union sentiment rarely results in better pay or working conditions for anyone -- except the bosses, who are quite few in number relative to everyone else.

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RonRizz

A lot of good, valid points made here, some not so much. I am a Superintendent for a Commercial Contractor, and we hire through the local union hall. (where I came up through). We get 20 or so guys on a job, and if they are not up to snuff, or slack off, we send them back to the bench, and pick up fresh ones. Noone is lazy, leaning on shovels, ect...... If you do, you're out. Simple as that. I have worked in open shop for many years before joining the union as well, and have seen first hand both sides of the coin. The union has changed my life for the better in many ways.
A local family owned brewery (which happens to be Americas oldest) Was a union shop since its inception, after the owner reached Billionaire staus on the backs of union labor, he built a new brewery in a nearby town, and when the union contract was up recently, told his employees that if they did not cut ties with the union, he would shut the brewery down, and put them all out of work. I know more than a few people that worked there, 2 of which took early retirement over it.
Good and bad on both sides... Don't stereotype all unions over the actions of a few. To the hard-core Anti-union, I say you're welcome for weekends off, overtime pay, 8 hour work days, and the hourly wage you now get from your employer. Without organized labor, you would have none of these things today. Open your mind, and let each man chose his own path.

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MacCool

Unions have indeed given us all of those things. They have also given us higher than necessary prices on many domestic commodities and manufactured goods, significant world trade imbalance, movement of entire industries off-shore, loss of countless domestic jobs, closed factories, bankrupted cities, a severely ailing educational system.

As you say...pluses and minuses.


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