Maserati's first ever commercial

Chuck33079 · 02-06-2014, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR

Since we digressed to a quality discussion by origin here is the US ranking from JD power of Cars(not SUV etc)

Top Rated Cars - 2013 Initial Quality Study

35 cars ranked:

Euro models 10 chosen

Asian - 18 models chosen

US - 7

Not bad for these horrible Euro models of which I own one listed(GTi). Asian models continue to do well. I own one listed my- 370Z. Glad I have both spectrums covered

On topic - Maserati sales have exploded(virturally doubled from 2012 numbers), and from what the local dealer tells me they have a good reputation here for quality.

That being said German models are sophisticated(maybe too sophisticated) and in terms of electronics have more issues. The Germans think they do electronics well but in actuality its Asian makers who do the best. Styling wise I think Euro makers do the best in terms of looks.

Jd power initial quality isn't a good metric. I would hope that any car holds up well at first. It's 100k later that I'm concerned about. Since you seem dead set on defending the euro cars, tell me this- would you own a German car out of warranty to 100k miles?

"J.D. Power has released the results of its latest Initial Quality Study (IQS), the company's industry benchmark study that measures new-vehicle quality after the first 90 days of ownership. A key finding of this year's study is that nearly two-thirds of the problems experienced in the first 90 days of ownership are related to the vehicle's design, as opposed to components that malfunction. For example, the component may be working as designed, but owners deem it a problem because it may be difficult to understand or operate"

See? The way they measure quality has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. If you were dead set on a JD Power study, you should have referenced this- http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/dependability.htm

Oh, except there is only one Euro car on the list.

Haboob · 02-06-2014, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

Id say noticeably slower than a 5.0 and Z....

Didn't know the specs, the two days I tried to get onto their site it kept saying it was down for me.

They only have the V6 option? I thought they were going to have a V8 option too? Hmm.

Still, pretty sexy.

Chuck33079 · 02-06-2014, 07:02 AM

It's gorgeous and it sounds good. I just don't know if I wouldn't come home with the V6 F-type for the same 67k. Or just buy the newest CPO 911 I could find.

DLSTR · 02-06-2014, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Jd power initial quality isn't a good metric. I would hope that any car holds up well at first. It's 100k later that I'm concerned about. Since you seem dead set on defending the euro cars, tell me this- would you own a German car out of warranty to 100k miles?

"J.D. Power has released the results of its latest Initial Quality Study (IQS), the company's industry benchmark study that measures new-vehicle quality after the first 90 days of ownership. A key finding of this year's study is that nearly two-thirds of the problems experienced in the first 90 days of ownership are related to the vehicle's design, as opposed to components that malfunction. For example, the component may be working as designed, but owners deem it a problem because it may be difficult to understand or operate"

See? The way they measure quality has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. If you were dead set on a JD Power study, you should have referenced this- Top Rated Cars, SUVs & Trucks - Car Reliability Ratings - 2013 Vehicle Dependability Study

Oh, except there is only one Euro car on the list.

When owners actually read the manual its amazing what can be learned about one's car LOL!

I could care less how many Euro's are on the list. If it was zero Id still have my GTi or any other EURO car Ive owned. Im happy the Z was on the link I sent out. I will sleep better now......really.

Firebase99 · 02-06-2014, 07:28 AM

Its sexy as hell, like most, $67K for a V6 without that gorgeous Maserati V8 sound? I dunno.

Chuck33079 · 02-06-2014, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR

When owners actually read the manual its amazing what can be learned about one's car LOL!

I could care less how many Euro's are on the list. If it was zero Id still have my GTi or any other EURO car Ive owned. Im happy the Z was on the link I sent out. I will sleep better now......really.

Don't get all bitchy because I pointed out your link was completely irrelevant. Have you tried Midol?

And I hate to be pedantic, but if you "could care less" it means you care. You were looking for "couldNT care less".

DLSTR · 02-06-2014, 08:45 AM

2014 Maserati Ghibli S Q4 Test Drive And Review: Attainable Exclusivity - Forbes

kenchan · 02-06-2014, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Don't get all bitchy because I pointed out your link was completely irrelevant. Have you tried Midol?

And I hate to be pedantic, but if you "could care less" it means you care. You were looking for "couldNT care less".

well, to be blunt, the one f-king german design thing they put in the Z is wat killed the car from starting... dreaded steering lock.

7speed · 02-06-2014, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

Id say noticeably slower than a 5.0 and Z....

Now come on firebase don't pick the lesser model stats. There is also 404 hp model on site , 4.7 sec 0-60.

DLSTR · 02-07-2014, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Don't get all bitchy because I pointed out your link was completely irrelevant. Have you tried Midol?

And I hate to be pedantic, but if you "could care less" it means you care. You were looking for "couldNT care less".

Irrelevant to the point they still measure the data LOL. You want their number so you can advise them on that, and on medication for bloating as well LOL!!??

Bitchy? No, that would be you and your mis-guided notion of what a loaner car must mean. I was happy to enlighten you.

As I stated many posts before, name a maker without issues.

Had I listened to a keyboard test driver like you I would not have purchased a number of cars Ive owned and enjoyed.

DLSTR · 02-07-2014, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

well, to be blunt, the one f-king german design thing they put in the Z is wat killed the car from starting... dreaded steering lock.

Would not that part have been cleared for installation after evaluation in Japan. Who designed the CSC??

Chuck33079 · 02-07-2014, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR

Irrelevant to the point they still measure the data LOL. You want their number so you can advise them on that, and on medication for bloating as well LOL!!??

Bitchy? No, that would be you and your mis-guided notion of what a loaner car must mean. I was happy to enlighten you.

As I stated many posts before, name a maker without issues.

Had I listened to a keyboard test driver like you I would not have purchased a number of cars Ive owned and enjoyed.

Initial quality is a retarded metric when you're looking at reliability. They obviously know that, because they have a different study for long term reliability. You haven't enlightened anyone about anything except your need to play Captain Save-A-Ho when the honor of your precious German cars has been besmirched. Keep at it. It is a fact that the reliability of European cars is below that of the Japanese. That's all I said. I'm sorry if you have a problem with that. I'm glad you've enjoyed your German cars. That's fantastic. It's also irrelevant.

DEpointfive0 · 02-07-2014, 06:49 AM

Yayyyyy!!! This thread turned into another "who has the biggest cóck thread?"!!!

Chuck33079 · 02-07-2014, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Yayyyyy!!! This thread turned into another "who has the biggest cóck thread?"!!!

That's how things work here.

Haboob · 02-07-2014, 07:01 AM

Regardless, I still want a Maserati GranTurismo.

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