2014 Camaro Refresh due to be unveiled at NY NAIAS
 

After Chevy adding HUD in 2011 as well re-tuning the engine. An interior refresh in 2012 along with new colors and the ZL1. The Chevy My link system and chevy 1LE in 2013 that became chevy's mustang killer.
Now we can expect a Chevy Refresh for 2014. 2015 will most likely debut a new 2016Camaro built on the lightweight and smaller Alpha platform. Nice to see Chevy evolving hard on the Camaro. People will have many opinions on the Camaro's looks, but one thing we can all agree is that Chevy has brought this camaro to full circle in 2013 with the 1LE. I'm curious to see what the refresh will entail.

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I will post Camaro refresh pics when they become available. :excited:

So can they make it any bigger? Wait and see!!!!

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We've got a 2010 and love it! I'm curious to see what they change.

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I guess you missed the part where the next gen camaro will most likely be built on the cadillac ATS platform (alfa) which weighs a little over 3400 lbs loaded. I don't think the next gen will be more than 3500 lbs? It will be smaller. But remember it's just a refresh for now, so i doubt there will be many changes in weight.

The new Camaro's size and weight make me wish I still had my 1968 RS Camaro.

My cousin had a heavily racing-modded burgundy 69 with black stripes. I loved that car. Only thing bad about it was all the heat that blow into the cockpit from the engine. In the summer... it was a murderous car to be in.

i prefer it big. It's an American muscle car after all. If you want a smaller sports car, you can buy European, Japanese, or Korean. Too bad they are going to make it smaller.

Good to see forum brothers that like camaro's and Z's. i feel like an underdog enthuiast when it comes to the camaro... lol I love renting SS's.

The Camaro isn't, and never was, a muscle car.

So what is it Import? type in muscle car in google and camaro pops up all over the place.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/slide...tid=1182735#12

It's a pony car, the answer to the Ford Mustang, another pony car (allegedly the first). What did you think it was?

So where can I buy a 390Z. I got a lot of Google hits on that, too...

Bueller?

Well you have a strong point, but they also qualify as muscle.

You can call it what you want. I'll call it what GM, the company that builds it, calls it. That would be "a pony car".
Chevy Camaro Parts | GM Parts House

First sentence.

Put it like this. All pony cars are muscle cars, BUT not all muscle cars are pony cars. Now take your geritol and chill. :tup:

I got the dual mode performance exhaust system and at or above 3,500 rpm it sure sounds like a muscle car to me :)

Well, if a V6 mustang is a muscle car to you, then my 370Z is a foreign exotic. :roflpuke2:

i would say
v6 camaros/mustangs/challengers are pony cars
v8 camaros/mustangs/challengers are muscle cars

I can agree with this statement most. Cuz no, the V6's aren't muscle. But i don't ever even think about the v6 models till people bring them up. lol but like said. Not all muscle cars are pony cars. But all pony cars are muscle cars based on that all gravy V8 option.

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I might go back to the "muscle" car when they start making them with curves again. That's why I bought the Z. It has the shape of a beautiful woman but the new domestics look like some fat overweight Mc Donalds eatin heifer. Change the body and they'll get me back. I didn't buy a sports car to haul kids or groceries.

They might have to keep the car big just to get seats that can actually fit an American...

That would explain the size...:icon18:

True... most complaints on the Z by domestic lovers is that the seats are way too narrow. lol. I think that's ridiculous. I'm what the medical industry calls normal sized. I find the Z seats to be perfect sports car seat. I love the camaro but the seats leave me with a little play. But they are comfortable as hell. Caddy comfortable. But if you can't fit nicely in Z seats? Stop going through the drive through and consider the produce section of whole foods as the primary source of nourishment. :tup:

Just think who makes the Camero. A company who makes cars and trucks for fat people.:icon17:

Well, Miss Evelyn sure looks good driving it :)

It's interesting my neighbor is a self-proclaimed Chevy guy, yet the last two used cars he bought were Ford products. I may be reading into this too much, but he seems to like Ford a lot, too.
I sat inside a 13' Mustang GT Cali.Spec. the other nite. Do you Mustang guys think it's any different /better than the base GT? I like it in Race Red w/ the scoops/splitter/etc... Hot DAMN its sexy!

lol this is a camaro thread

Anyway, briefly, the Cali package is an appearance package more than anything. Custom grille, striping, and a light that projects a Mustang image onto the ground. lol

Anyhow, I love the way that Camaros look. I think they're fun to drive, but feel very "big" and have terrible sight lines and cheap interior. But it seems that they are starting to beat Mustangs around racing circuits, and that's pretty impressive to me.

It's that 1LE package... It's a monster!!!! That thing gets me horny!!!!:leghump:

It is sad what is "normal", now days.

Dang, I've yet to sit inside a Camaro and already a new refresh. I read and heard about its awful visibility. I guess same could be said about the 370z but when I had the Nismo with the gigantic wing, I was still ok with visibility but I did add those blind spot mirrors to help me out.

I had a 370 nismo and for sure the Camaro has better visibility.

those people who say the Camaro is too big, well I like its big car ride. Very comfortable. I feel i can drive 4 hrs straight without any trouble. If they made it smaller, maybe its performance and handling would improve but it probably it would lose its big car ride.

the 370z isn't exactly small either, didn't nissan say the next Z would be smaller?

What's your definition of "small"? The Z is physically small for a car built in this generation. It's within 3mm of the FRS/BRZ twins, shorter than the the 350, 300ZX (Z31/Z32), and S13 240SX... It's shorter in length than the Cayman S too. The Z is small. The Camaro is a large car from any measurement. If people wanted Cadillac ride quality in a sports car, Chevy wouldn't have tightened things up for model year 2012 and switch to a smaller frame for the next generation. The Chevrolet SS can do that and the Camaro SS can focus on being a damn good performance car.

I test drove a V6 Camaro before I bought my Z and I thought the ride was much rougher than my Z.

not sure how that happened. the ride on mine feels like that of a big car. It doesn't feel like a sports car until 3500 rpm when the dual mode performance exhaust kicks it. the car reviews on youtube all say the same about the ride quality.

this mini-z here is small :)
that would be a cool daily driver, if nissan produced it.

Mini Z Illustration Watermarked Photo 1

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This is refresh #2. First in 2012 was a higher quality interior than the 2010-2011 models. The first two model years had hard plastics with no shapes. Now there's shapes and softer touch materials. The performance models get lathered in Alcantara... The gauge area is love it or hate it. I'm indifferent to the gauges. They don't suck but Z gauges look 1,000 times better.

Now the resfresh is external. That said, they've given the V6 a better LFA engine, gave the v8 a better tune. Added two more aggressive models. (SS1LE and ZL1) Have had companies like Hennessey and callaway show a lot of love to the camaro. They're doing big things that way. :tup:

the z is smaller, very easy to maneuver forward or in reverse. The large, ugly mirrors are fantastic for helping one maneuver.

The Camaro is huge in comparison, and you can barely see what's around you.

That said, I really like the Camaro. I just like the Z better. Opinions are going to vary.

It must've been broken?? The Camaro's ride is firm yet supple. If you're into sporty but comfortable driving the camaro wins hands down. If you're into cars that have the perfect suspension for high speed cornering. It's the Z hands down. Z suspension is very comfy for its performance. But not camaro comfy. i've rented several. :tup:

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Z=167 inches
Camaro= 190 inches
Z is approx 2 feet shorter. Huge difference.

It's much more visible than the 370 after getting used to them both