What does stateside have to do with nissans history?

It doesn't matter if nothing was here. They still engineered these.

They had the Silvia, Silvia R, pulsar Gti R, gtr, 300zx, and other cars, i think they know wtf they are doing when it comes to sports cars.

Hyundai though has a gen coupe with 348 Hp oh damn!!!!

I rarely see genesis coupes around. I did for a while in 2008. I had a few friends that said they were the best since baked beans and could eat my Saturn Sky for lunch. Most ate crow and sold the within the year. Now it has been almost a year since I have seen a genesis coupe in traffic and I live in Houston. I see way more Z's than I see hyundai cars.

Heck even my dad bought new hyundai in 2011 and within six months he was driving a new Nissan Altima. He said hyundai was crap.

Yo but its gonna have 400 Hp and 350 tq soon, so we know its gonna be bad *** man. Lol

The Gen Coupe may not be at the top of the list, but like I said before, Hyundai is stepping up and definitely did a good job at their first sports car entry. The interior is cheap because the 3.8 r spec is priced a good 4k under the base 370z. Sure they need some more refining, it's rare that someone gets it perfect the first time.

To be fair, at the "spend my thousands wisely" statement, I have had issues with the steering lock and CSC on the Z with 28k miles. The Genesis has been problem free for me for 30k miles. Don't take that the wrong way, I love my Z to death! The Z is still the better car, but the Z is far from perfect as well.

If the Genesis Coupe, sitting as is, had another company's badge on it, it would receive more praise than it does. But because its a Hyundai, it still has a negative stigma that people refuse to get over.

I just went on the website, the 3.8 track model is close to 34k

That isn't much far behind a z, sti, evo, Camaro, mustang.

You mean the vehicles that came out 50 years after they started making cars?

My point exactly...... It takes time, and they proved themselves

What's your argument? Hyundai gen came out yesterday?

I mean look how much Ford improved their quality in the last like 2-3 years. I know they were an already established brand, but they improved the quality of their cars greatly in the past couple years.

My point is that posts like the one below:


Are fairly similar to the comments from ford/chevy nuts back when nissan was up and coming.


In fact, I clearly said that, way back here:

Exactly then they proved themselves over time.

The track model is the "fully loaded" lol. Youre comparing that to the price of a base Z. Thats apples to oranges.

Genesis Coupe 3.8 R-Spec:
MSRP $28750
348hp/295tq
19 inch alloy wheels
Torsen LSD
Brembo Brakes

370Z base with sport:
MSRP $36150
336hp/260tq
19 inch Rays (Awesome)
LSD
Akebono's
Synchro rev

Thats a little over 7k difference if you compare apples to apples. There is a reason why the wheels arent forged, and the interior isnt quite as nice. As far as the actual performance of the cars, the 370z has almost 40 years of experience behind its engineering. The Genesis is Hyundais first real sports car, they have some bugs to work out.

The 370z really isnt a competitor anyhow, just using it as comparison.

Hyundai is in the process of proving themselves atm imo.

370z not even the Nismo. Best comparison to the Gensis coupe.

The car's performance potential was further confirmed at the track, with the Z posting a more than respectable 4.8-second 0-60 mph time, and completing the quarter-mile in 13.4 seconds at 105.6 mph. That's faster than the 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 we recently tested, which posted a 5.2-second 0-60 and a 13.9-second quarter-mile at 102.2 mph. The Nissan required 106 feet to brake from 60-0 mph, and averaged an impressive 0.99 g in lateral acceleration, beating out the heavier, track pack-equipped 2013 Mustang V-6 Premium's 60-0 stopping performance of 110 feet and a skidpad average of 0.95 g. With its figure-eight result of 25.1 seconds at an average 0.74 g, the Z proved it's still an agile handler.

Read more: 2012 Nissan 370Z First Drive - Motor Trend

You guys keep restating what I'm saying


They are the new kids on the block, it takes time to sway people's mind. Doesn't happen over night, all my posts have been trying to convey this yet you don't understand.

Nissan has history, subaru has history, honda has history, mitsubishi has history, Toyota has history, ford and Chevy has history, is that **** hard to understand??

Feel free to hop on board, cause I won't any time soon lol

Yes, this sounds like "they're the new kids on the block, let's see if they prove themselves"

Yeah that's my personal decision, I won't ever buy one, let me state that again and again

Ever

But to the rest of the people, they need to prove themselves.

But red_zed I'd say you buy one now cause it has 348 Hp man