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Isamu 09-08-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry (Post 1907500)
two cars/one engine.

hawt.

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Isamu 09-08-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1906735)
Truth is, the Z will need $35k or more in mods to run times like that. The question is... Who's willing to pay it? I been doing research on it cuz i want to go FI. I'm quickly giving up hope. Good news is. I have nearly 10k saved for a turbo. Maybe i will just keep saving for the future FI Z or other car later and put premium NA mods on the Z, then pass it to my wife when i get the new turbo'd next gen car.

The flipside is... once the Z is attainable for 22k or less used? YOU WILL SEE 11 SECOND Z's. Cost of ownership plus cost of going FI sways a lot of people. People are boosting the BRZ cuz it can be had for 26k and the cars are new so they are getting sponsor discounts. We and mitsu see the highest prices in mods for a non premium brand.

35k in mods? are you high? I'm willing to bet, with a better driver(as I am not certain of my drag strip skills) and better tires I will hit low 11 seconds...

Red__Zed 09-08-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1908028)
35k in mods? are you high? I'm willing to bet, with a better driver(as I am not certain of my drag strip skills) and better tires I will hit low 11 seconds...

Based on what?

Compdoc777 09-08-2012 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceagetlc (Post 1907939)
@Compdoc: Apply cold water to the affected area.

Yes DI and VVL... Totally different I'll need to take a cold shower!

Red__Zed 09-08-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Compdoc777 (Post 1908038)
Yes DI and VVL... Totally different I'll need to take a cold shower!

You're kidding right? Please tell me you are trolling...

shadoquad 09-08-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1908028)
35k in mods? are you high? I'm willing to bet, with a better driver(as I am not certain of my drag strip skills) and better tires I will hit low 11 seconds...

I'd love you to put big rubber on supernova & have a pro try a 1/4 mi run in hrr!

Isamu 09-08-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1908051)
I'd love you to put big rubber on supernova & have a pro try a 1/4 mi run in hrr!

I do way better on the twisties.. :(

Jordo! 09-08-2012 09:19 PM

That is very impressive.

I just want one making about 200 lbft from 2K RPM and peaking at a much more modest value, like 225ish.

If that were available with a warranty from Toyota, I'd be shopping for one right now.

shadoquad 09-08-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1908079)
I do way better on the twisties.. :(

I'm with ya, bro. Just sayin', I know you're pushing some serious powa!!!

Isamu 09-09-2012 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1908123)
I'm with ya, bro. Just sayin', I know you're pushing some serious powa!!!

at least one of the OG's recognizes... lol

b1adesofcha0s 09-09-2012 02:20 AM

Isn't traction one of the biggest issues with why the FI'd Z's haven't done that well? Most of them were on street tires anyway. Maybe some drag radials on some wide azz wheels along with a good driver will result in better times. Though there's only one person on here determined to make their 370Z a drag racing car and GT-R's are no where near having any nightmares yet :icon17:

Iceagetlc 09-09-2012 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1908303)
Isn't traction one of the biggest issues with why the FI'd Z's haven't done that well? Most of them were on street tires anyway. Maybe some drag radials on some wide azz wheels along with a good driver will result in better times. Though there's only one person on here determined to make their 370Z a drag racing car and GT-R's are no where near having any nightmares yet :icon17:

Slicks would be nice so as long as you trust the stock axles, I would think some modest drag radials and a longer first gear would be safer. The gearing of Z's is very much balanced around an N/A powerband. If you could stretch 1st gear to say 50mph it'd help consolidate the traction issues to one gear instead of fighting it for 2.

If I'm wrong I can only blame my newfound experience with heavenly 3.31 gears and only having to shift twice down the quarter, however 1st is really the only gear I'm thankful for.

Iceagetlc 09-09-2012 04:05 AM

Double post not sure how that happened

Isamu 09-09-2012 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1908303)
Isn't traction one of the biggest issues with why the FI'd Z's haven't done that well? Most of them were on street tires anyway. Maybe some drag radials on some wide azz wheels along with a good driver will result in better times. Though there's only one person on here determined to make their 370Z a drag racing car and GT-R's are no where near having any nightmares yet :icon17:

:tup:

Red__Zed 09-09-2012 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1908303)
Isn't traction one of the biggest issues with why the FI'd Z's haven't done that well? Most of them were on street tires anyway. Maybe some drag radials on some wide azz wheels along with a good driver will result in better times. Though there's only one person on here determined to make their 370Z a drag racing car and GT-R's are no where near having any nightmares yet :icon17:

Axles and suspension geometry are next.

nuTinmuch 09-09-2012 10:38 AM

I love how the mentality is on this forum now-a-days. If you give any car that isn't a Z props, you're hating on the Z.

Jesus.

This is awesome. The BRZ/FRS is a welcome addition to the sports car market in the US, and I'm really glad they're getting heavily modded so early on in their lifetime.

bvl 09-09-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Compdoc777 (Post 1908038)
Yes DI and VVL... Totally different I'll need to take a cold shower!

Bore/stroke totally different, decks are all open now IIRC (there were semi and closed variants of the EJ: those are the really good power ones, JDM STi and up).

When bore and stroke change, and the entire block and heads are different can you really say they are that much alike and the years of work and experience on the previous engines are all that significant?

Other then fitment...there is a lot of greenfield here methinks.

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b1adesofcha0s 09-09-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceagetlc (Post 1908312)
Slicks would be nice so as long as you trust the stock axles, I would think some modest drag radials and a longer first gear would be safer. The gearing of Z's is very much balanced around an N/A powerband. If you could stretch 1st gear to say 50mph it'd help consolidate the traction issues to one gear instead of fighting it for 2.

If I'm wrong I can only blame my newfound experience with heavenly 3.31 gears and only having to shift twice down the quarter, however 1st is really the only gear I'm thankful for.

Damn only shifting twice? I'm at like 3-4 shifts by the time I cross the 1/4 mile. Last shift is close to the line but I forget whether it's before or after it.

Iceagetlc 09-09-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1908559)
Damn only shifting twice? I'm at like 3-4 shifts by the time I cross the 1/4 mile. Last shift is close to the line but I forget whether it's before or after it.

Yes I finish halfway through third gear.

Shamu 09-12-2012 12:32 AM

Pretty sure my car with 8psi And 4.09 rear end would hang with that BRZ. 20 PSI on stock block. :bowrofl::icon17::bowrofl: Watch for BRZ engine rebuild thread soon!

Japanjay 09-12-2012 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1912275)
Pretty sure my car with 8psi And 4.09 rear end would hang with that BRZ. 20 PSI on stock block. :bowrofl::icon17::bowrofl: Watch for BRZ engine rebuild thread soon!

Again 20psi with a t25 is not the same as 20psi on a t62 or what ever turbo they choose....

I would be more forcused, since that havent listed the turbo off, on the whp number. Just over 100% increase from stock.

Shamu 09-12-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Japanjay (Post 1912311)
Again 20psi with a t25 is not the same as 20psi on a t62 or what ever turbo they choose....

I would be more forcused, since that havent listed the turbo off, on the whp number. Just over 100% increase from stock.

Havent even talked about drivability either. Suspect its on off switch with no bottom end.

shadoquad 09-12-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1912275)
Pretty sure my car with 8psi And 4.09 rear end would hang with that BRZ. 20 PSI on stock block. :bowrofl::icon17::bowrofl: Watch for BRZ engine rebuild thread soon!

Love to see it. I'd love to see a 370Z beat that time at the strip, with a posted slip. That would be very exciting.
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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1913537)
Havent even talked about drivability either. Suspect its on off switch with no bottom end.

a ray of sunshine as usual :bowrofl:

Red__Zed 09-12-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Japanjay (Post 1912311)
Again 20psi with a t25 is not the same as 20psi on a t62 or what ever turbo they choose....

I would be more forcused, since that havent listed the turbo off, on the whp number. Just over 100% increase from stock.


Seems to be a tough concept for most here to grasp...

shadoquad 09-12-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1913735)
Seems to be a tough concept for most here to grasp...

Excuse me, sir, but my 370z in Forza Motorsports was faster than a Z06 with all the mods I put on. And that game's a simulation of real life. :cool:

Red__Zed 09-12-2012 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1908303)
Isn't traction one of the biggest issues with why the FI'd Z's haven't done that well? Most of them were on street tires anyway. Maybe some drag radials on some wide azz wheels along with a good driver will result in better times. Though there's only one person on here determined to make their 370Z a drag racing car and GT-R's are no where near having any nightmares yet :icon17:

There's a lot that goes into traction beyond just bolting on wider tires.

b1adesofcha0s 09-12-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1913744)
There's a lot that goes into traction beyond just bolting on wider tires.

Yeah I realize that, but it's a decent first step usually, right?

Red__Zed 09-12-2012 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1913752)
Yeah I realize that, but it's a decent first step usually, right?

If your goal is to learn what the second step is, I suppose it works:icon17:

Red__Zed 09-12-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1913739)
Excuse me, sir, but my 370z in Forza Motorsports was faster than a Z06 with all the mods I put on. And that game's a simulation of real life. :cool:

that's because you added the trailer home mod to your corvette. it's tough to corner with a mobile home on the back.

b1adesofcha0s 09-12-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1913757)
If your goal is to learn what the second step is, I suppose it works:icon17:

:icon17:

Wanna post or PM me some more details? I'm interested in learning. Time for the Red Zed Traction School :icon17:

jpritche 09-12-2012 11:33 PM

The Gallardo is AWD b1ades isn't used to traction problems.

Japanjay 09-13-2012 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1913735)
Seems to be a tough concept for most here to grasp...

Tell me about it.... I bet most couldnt read the flow chart on a turbo to size correctly for what they are trying to accomplish. Or better yet even know that turbo's have flow charts...

Iceagetlc 09-13-2012 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Japanjay (Post 1914089)
Tell me about it.... I bet most couldnt read the flow chart on a turbo to size correctly for what they are trying to accomplish. Or better yet even know that turbo's have flow charts...

Your mom has a flow chart. :koolaidwall:

shadoquad 09-13-2012 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceagetlc (Post 1914137)
Your mom has a flow chart. :koolaidwall:

:iagree:

b1adesofcha0s 09-13-2012 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 1913991)
The Gallardo is AWD b1ades isn't used to traction problems.

What are these "traction problems" you speak of? Must be a middle class issue :bowrofl:

Red__Zed 09-13-2012 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1914173)
What are these "traction problems" you speak of? Must be a middle class issue :bowrofl:

It's that mild slip you feel as you run over pedestrians.

shadoquad 09-13-2012 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1914173)
What are these "traction problems" you speak of? Must be a middle class issue :bowrofl:

:icon18:

jpritche 09-13-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1914173)
What are these "traction problems" you speak of? Must be a middle class issue :bowrofl:

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1914174)
It's that mild slip you feel as you run over pedestrians.

Oh how I have missed you guys :bowrofl:

shadoquad 09-13-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 1914189)
Oh how I have missed you guys :bowrofl:

I haven't

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b1adesofcha0s 09-13-2012 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1914174)
It's that mild slip you feel as you run over pedestrians.

Those silly little things always get in my way. Walking like they own the entire sidewalk :shakes head:


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