Guys, frs/brz is a very well engineered car, perhaps better than the z imo, in stock form and in terms of mod friendly. Heck, toyotabaru made this car so it can carry 4 spare tires for track days.

Fundamentally speaking, in terms of visibility and weight, both very important for sports driving, frs/brz wins by a mile. Z is great, but the toyotabaru is just more purpose built in that way.

Whether the op is stirring the pot or not, fact is we aren't gonna win the mod friendliness battle, the more we try to defend our car, the more we look like condescending axxholes.

Nothing against the FRS, I would take the Z over it any day. What can I say, I really like my car, as I'm sure the FRS/BRZ folks like theirs.

I can fit 4 tires in my Civic, doesn't make it a great track car. The brz/frs is a good car, but not any more "mod friendly" than the Z or any other sports car for that matter. It's the same old recycled mods with minimal gains until you start messing with forced induction. The frs/brz's purpose is to be an affordable sports car...not the perfect sports car.

:iagree: At the price it's at right now, it's even failing at that IMO. When the excitement dies down a little and they stop marking them up, then it will be a better value.

Get off your high horse, man. Jesus was commissioned to design the LS1 engine years ago. He went into hiatus after it was completed and finally Toyobaru were able to convince him to come and design a car for them: The FT86. It's so good even Tim Tebow drives one.

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It was designed so that there was enough room for you to Tebow inside of it.

I really do like the FT86 platform, though. I just wish it was cheaper. I would consider one for a daily driver, but I just wish it had moar powar stock.

I'm thinking it will make more sense once we start seeing more of them for sale used. I just hope people don't beat on them too much like they tend to do with something like a 240sx or RX-8 (FD). I wouldn't mind driving an FT86 as a daily, even with the lack of power/torque.

Yeah I wouldn't mind one at all for a DD even with stock power. Just enough to keep it fun.

If you could pick up a used one in a couple years for under $20k and put a turbo kit on it, that would make a nice DD/track car :yum:

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Hi Fabio.

Congrats, you know my first name such as everyone single person on this forum, one internet point for you knowing what everyone else knows. :facepalm:

Also, no searching, it is very simple figure out your account after 2 posts.

What is this now, the 4th person to claim they know my first name? And that is all they know....:ugh2: