ZL1 beats new GT500

MightyBobo · 06-20-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It's also on less tire.

And I'm responding to this:

I think my definition of "huge" as far as gaps in timeslips in a drag race vary from yours.

0.5 seconds CAN be huge, but that is all relative - I suppose I was just saying that when I think of "huge", I think of the difference between 9.99 and 10.49. Not a low 12 and a high 11, when I was running those times in my old Camaro lol. I know what it takes to run them, because I've done it. And if 80 horsepower/300 pounds arent enough to motivate a good 0.5 seconds and 90 feet out of a car...

Maybe drag strip times in the 11's/12's just simply don't impress me anymore. *shrug*

shadoquad · 06-20-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

I think my definition of "huge" as far as gaps in timeslips in a drag race vary from yours.

0.5 seconds CAN be huge, but that is all relative - I suppose I was just saying that when I think of "huge", I think of the difference between 9.99 and 10.49. Not a low 12 and a high 11, when I was running those times in my old Camaro lol. I know what it takes to run them, because I've done it. And if 80 horsepower/300 pounds arent enough to motivate a good 0.5 seconds and 90 feet out of a car...

Maybe drag strip times in the 11's/12's just simply don't impress me anymore. *shrug*

It's ok. My comment was to the casual observer who doesn't understand that .5 is a decent gap. I agree, given the hp/weight numbers, it was predictable. I'm just saying that half a second takes some work to overcome.

MightyBobo · 06-20-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

It's ok. My comment was to the casual observer who doesn't understand that .5 is a decent gap. I agree, given the hp/weight numbers, it was predictable. I'm just saying that half a second takes some work to overcome.

Yeah I understand completely. I'm probably being too extreme on what I find impressive anyway. Maybe after seeing these amazing cars made from scrap heaps back in Omaha that run 9's has spoiled me into realizing that drag racing is fairly dumb and 11's/12's is the new 13's/14's lol

b1adesofcha0s · 06-20-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Yeah I understand completely. I'm probably being too extreme on what I find impressive anyway. Maybe after seeing these amazing cars made from scrap heaps back in Omaha that run 9's has spoiled me into realizing that drag racing is fairly dumb and 11's/12's is the new 13's/14's lol

Elitist drag racer

MightyBobo · 06-20-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Elitist drag racer

Pretty much. When some kid can go grab his mom's Camry V6 and run a very low 14 or high 13, I realized drag racing's standards were changing. Running a low/mid-13 in a 4G Camaro was pretty solid, and Mustangs then were running high 13's/low 14's for a "muscle car". For EG Civics, "breaking into the 14's" was considered an accomplishment.

And then you realized, it was slow as piss, when some guy can get some piece of **** 4th Gen Auto F-body, throw an intake/exhaust/stall on it and decent drag radials, and hey - welcome to mid-11's! Faster than BOTH of the car's we're discussing for a fraction of the price and half the horsepower.

'Nuff said.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-20-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Pretty much. When some kid can go grab his mom's Camry V6 and run a very low 14 or high 13, I realized drag racing's standards were changing. Running a low/mid-13 in a 4G Camaro was pretty solid, and Mustangs then were running high 13's/low 14's for a "muscle car". For EG Civics, "breaking into the 14's" was considered an accomplishment.

And then you realized, it was slow as piss, when some guy can get some piece of **** 4th Gen Auto F-body, throw an intake/exhaust/stall on it and decent drag radials, and hey - welcome to mid-11's! Faster than BOTH of the car's we're discussing for a fraction of the price and half the horsepower.

'Nuff said.

I didn't know Camry's could run that fast. My cousin hasn't even broke into the 13's yet with his 350Z

I'm hoping to finally break into the 12's again with these new tires. Just waiting for a Friday night with decent temps now.

MightyBobo · 06-20-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I didn't know Camry's could run that fast. My cousin hasn't even broke into the 13's yet with his 350Z

I'm hoping to finally break into the 12's again with these new tires. Just waiting for a Friday night with decent temps now.

Sorry, my bad - looks like they're right around low-14's in the 1/4.

Toyota Camry V6 lap times and specs - FastestLaps.com

Although SOME jackass probably broke into the 13s with theirs lol.

Red__Zed · 06-20-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Yeah I understand completely. I'm probably being too extreme on what I find impressive anyway. Maybe after seeing these amazing cars made from scrap heaps back in Omaha that run 9's has spoiled me into realizing that drag racing is fairly dumb and 11's/12's is the new 13's/14's lol

It is hard to compare purpose built drag cars to cars that are made to do more.

Trust me, I know more about the struggles of breaking into the 9s than most here.

m4a1mustang · 06-20-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It is hard to compare purpose built drag cars to cars that are made to do more.

Trust me, I know more about the struggles of breaking into the 9s than most here.

What do you know about 9s? You don't even know a thing about FI Hondas.

Red__Zed · 06-20-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

What do you know about 9s? You don't even know a thing about FI Hondas.

Damn rice burners and their 9 second eigth mile times

Isamu · 06-20-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Damn rice burners and their 9 second eigth mile times

b1adesofcha0s · 06-20-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It is hard to compare purpose built drag cars to cars that are made to do more.

Trust me, I know more about the struggles of breaking into the 9s than most here.

Spending 2 years learning how to FI Hondas sounds pretty difficult

chris410 · 06-20-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It is hard to compare purpose built drag cars to cars that are made to do more.

Trust me, I know more about the struggles of breaking into the 9s than most here.

Reminds me of my Supra when my VPC broke so I could not launch the car with the big turbo :-( On a slick, my car basically rolling out in 1st then getting on it ran a 12.0 @ 126mph and that was on my street tune. I never bothered with my high boost setting because when the VPC died, the car would fall on its face between shifts...very frustrating.

Drag racing to me is a "fun" activity but one that I could not take seriously unless I was pushing 9's in a fully built car. Of course...after racing motorcycles there's honestly not much that cars do to really get me worked up. It's hard to top dragging knee/elbow knowing that one small twist leads to a great lap or breakfast in a hosptial.

Back to the topic...it's hard to disagree that there is a bias towards the camaro. I think if I were to come across a ZL-1 I would give him thumbs up, they are a bad *** car...sadly with ALL cars you end up with some people who are jack asses. I will tell you that a lot of Supra owners (especially the ones with big turbos) had such an arrogance that although I had the car myself I could not stand their attitude towards everyone. That's where you separate speed lovers and people who need a fast car to compensate for a lack of self confidence.

shadoquad · 06-20-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chris410

Reminds me of my Supra when my VPC broke so I could not launch the car with the big turbo :-( On a slick, my car basically rolling out in 1st then getting on it ran a 12.0 @ 126mph and that was on my street tune. I never bothered with my high boost setting because when the VPC died, the car would fall on its face between shifts...very frustrating.

Drag racing to me is a "fun" activity but one that I could not take seriously unless I was pushing 9's in a fully built car. Of course...after racing motorcycles there's honestly not much that cars do to really get me worked up. It's hard to top dragging knee/elbow knowing that one small twist leads to a great lap or breakfast in a hosptial.

Back to the topic...it's hard to disagree that there is a bias towards the camaro. I think if I were to come across a ZL-1 I would give him thumbs up, they are a bad *** car...sadly with ALL cars you end up with some people who are jack asses. I will tell you that a lot of Supra owners (especially the ones with big turbos) had such an arrogance that although I had the car myself I could not stand their attitude towards everyone. That's where you separate speed lovers and people who need a fast car to compensate for a lack of self confidence.

There is a bias. In car magazines, the best car is usually the one made by the company who wets the magazine's whistle the most. It's subtle when the comparisons are close, but sometimes it's glaringly obvious who the writer wants to win, even against all logic.

A note on supra driving jackazzes, there was one at Zdayz. Whole resort packed with RWD sports cars pushing out over 300 hp, and the only person doing donuts and burnouts is in a riced out Supra.

chris410 · 06-20-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

There is a bias. In car magazines, the best car is usually the one made by the company who wets the magazine's whistle the most. It's subtle when the comparisons are close, but sometimes it's glaringly obvious who the writer wants to win, even against all logic.

A note on supra driving jackazzes, there was one at Zdayz. Whole resort packed with RWD sports cars pushing out over 300 hp, and the only person doing donuts and burnouts is in a riced out Supra.

They are the reason I ended up selling my Supra, at one point it was a respected car however, after F&F came out and people started ricing them out...cops would follow me all the time and any excuse to pull me over they would. I had enough and sold the car...and on a good note ended up with quite a bit in my pocket since I sold it for what I bought it for new

I am happy that for the most part the import scene has calmed down but at one point I will admit that it was pretty entertaining.

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