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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 ASK and you shall receive... at least on the subie it will. The Subaru BRZ STI Engine Debuts in Japanese version of the Legacy and Next

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Old 06-12-2012, 12:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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All of this will pretty much be a straight bolt on for the current engine.... you will have to work it, but swap it over and your set. This new block will be used in most if not alll future flat 4's for a while. Both in NA and boosted trim.
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i like it its a good step for toyota
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i like it its a good step for toyota
I agree. Everyone already knows this car is going to sell a ton. It brings the sports coupe back to Toyota finally, a crowd that Toyota didnt previously cater to. Give it a couple of years and the aftermarket will take care of the cars lacking HP.
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I agree. Great car for the price

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The FR-S will sell, sure. But it's not great car for the money. Unless the one I tested was the anomaly, it felt much cheaper than a 25k car.
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Also forgot... The car dipped below 500rpm at idle on me. It was really disconcerting, like the car was going to stall at stop signs. Has anyone else experienced this, or was I just test driving a dog?
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Also forgot... The car dipped below 500rpm at idle on me. It was really disconcerting, like the car was going to stall at stop signs. Has anyone else experienced this, or was I just test driving a dog?
For some reason this is really common on subarus for the first couple hundred miles. My wrx did it too...I think it has to do with a relatively slow leaning ecu for idle parameters.
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For some reason this is really common on subarus for the first couple hundred miles. My wrx did it too...I think it has to do with a relatively slow leaning ecu for idle parameters.
So that's normal with the boxer 4? Ok, I asked the salesman, but he was pretty clueless about the vehicle.
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So that's normal with the boxer 4? Ok, I asked the salesman, but he was pretty clueless about the vehicle.
Mine did it literally twice. Once was about 3 days after purchase, and the other time the temperature had dropped something like 50* overnight.

Both times it just did a quick blip below 500 rpms, but then caught and went back to a normal idle. Nothing bad happened, but kinda scary.

I've put 19,000 miles on the car since the last time it happened, though, and it has been good since.

Of course, it could also just be bad gas or whatever
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I'm sure the BRZ platform could be an easy candidate for an STi swap, although it does bring about the problem of emissions testing. Lightweight, plenty of space in the engine bay, and updated styling really lends an air of fresh, modern design.

Also, I'm sure someone is just gonna swap out the entire interior or something... the inside of the BRZ/FRS (FRS especially) reminded me of the interior of the 350Z... made the price tag seem too high for such an unrefined, cheap, almost thrown-together interior.
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A guy down the block bought one in firestorm red. The profile is beautiful, front aggressive, rear looks unfinished and I agree the wheels just look weak as hell.... it does need FI considering we come from a v6. And people can pull the handling card all they want. Our cars still get 1g of grip in the mid 70'smph range. Our automatics are getting to 60 from 0 in about 4.8 seconds and 4.4 with a foot of rollot. Our manuals are .3 seconds slower. Quarter times are ranging 12.9 to 13.1 seconds stock with a broken in engine and a good set of rubber. I will pass on 15+second quarter times for a nimble feel. My Z feels plenty nimble without the car feeling like its going to fly away and not so fat and heavy that it feels like a boat. I think the Z is perfect. For its current power. I would like it to lose 200lbs. Other than that I think its perfect in its function.

That said. I'm going to test drive a FRS today. I am curious as well as I want to follow the build up to the turbo model. I have my eye on this car and with a turbo engine pushing this thing.
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A guy down the block bought one in firestorm red. The profile is beautiful, front aggressive, rear looks unfinished and I agree the wheels just look weak as hell.... it does need FI considering we come from a v6. And people can pull the handling card all they want. Our cars still get 1g of grip in the mid 70'smph range. Our automatics are getting to 60 from 0 in about 4.8 seconds and 4.4 with a foot of rollot. Our manuals are .3 seconds slower. Quarter times are ranging 12.9 to 13.1 seconds stock with a broken in engine and a good set of rubber. I will pass on 15+second quarter times for a nimble feel. My Z feels plenty nimble without the car feeling like its going to fly away and not so fat and heavy that it feels like a boat. I think the Z is perfect. For its current power. I would like it to lose 200lbs. Other than that I think its perfect in its function.
That said. I'm going to test drive a FRS today. I am curious as well as I want to follow the build up to the turbo model. I have my eye on this car and with a turbo engine pushing this thing.
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It's a nice try by Toyota and Subi. Once all the fanboi hype dies off this is just an above average offering with RWD.

I agree with others that Japanese car companies tend to flock to similar competitive offerings so lets hope we see a small Nissan with 1.6 turbo soon.

Mazda announced long ago it was revamping MX5 platform so we should see something from them too.

Too bad they will all be ladies and small men's cars. Us over 6'3" foot dudes don't fit well in most of these small Japanese sports cars.
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It's a nice try by Toyota and Subi. Once all the fanboi hype dies off this is just an above average offering with RWD.

I agree with others that Japanese car companies tend to flock to similar competitive offerings so lets hope we see a small Nissan with 1.6 turbo soon.

Mazda announced long ago it was revamping MX5 platform so we should see something from them too.

Too bad they will all be ladies and small men's cars. Us over 6'3" foot dudes don't fit well in most of these small Japanese sports cars.
To give it credit, I'm not tall, but the FR-S held a fatty like me pretty well.
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