Got to inspect the Scion FR-S today...

m4a1mustang · 06-08-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smoovep

An article I read compared the two head to head. It said the only noticible difference in performance was that the suby pushed more and the scion oversteered more. The difference being slightly softer springs in the scion.

I prefer the scion front bumper to the suby, but would get the suby over the scion because of the interior upgrades available.

Either way, they are just a little too whimpy for my tastes and I felt it would be a downgrade from my S2000 (god I wish Honda still made them, best car I've ever owned hands down!!!!)

S2k love

shadoquad · 06-08-2012, 02:37 PM

I would probably buy the Toyota over the Subaru, unless there were significant performance reasons.

I want to go check out the Scion one of these days. I'd also be fine with cheap cloth seats.

bigdog1250 · 06-08-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly

how was the head room sitting in the driver seat? would you destroy C1 vertibrae if you ran over a twig or a pebble? because looking at that roof line next to the prius makes me think there is no way to vertically spread a spine in there unless your tailbone had ball bearings on it and there was a hole cut in the floor for your a$$ to drag the pavement!

I'm 5'10" and I had plenty of room. Now I can't vouch for what it's like if I hit a twig as I only sat in a parked one, but once I get a chance to test drive one I'll let you know!

bigdog1250 · 06-08-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Its a great looking car with awesome chassis and performance features but lacks about 75hp and 100lbs of torque for me to even consider it for any true sporting intentions. This car needs a turbo and a bbk. That being said. That would add about 220lbs to its 2800lbs.

If they found a way to keep it @ 2900lb max and have a turbo 275hp/280lbs tq? This car would be speaking volumes to the masses. Keep the price @ 33k max. And this car would rule

While we'd always love more power, that's not the point of this car. It's supposed to be an entry level sports car that offers great performance for the price. It's not supposed to be in the same class as the 370z as its $5k+ cheaper.

Of course the mods you mentioned would be great, but for $33k that defeats the intentions of this car. The Masses want a $25k entry level giggle machine. Those with deeper pockets would go with a Z or something higher in the spectrum.

m4a1mustang · 06-08-2012, 03:08 PM

giggle machine... I like it.

Pauly · 06-08-2012, 04:32 PM

cool, alright bigdog

shadoquad · 06-09-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I would probably buy the Toyota over the Subaru, unless there were significant performance reasons.

I want to go check out the Scion one of these days. I'd also be fine with cheap cloth seats.

I drove it today. I wasn't all that impressed. It is pretty, tossable, and surprisingly roomy for a guy like me, and the clutch is pretty ok.

But it's not as peppy as I'd like, and turn-in disappointed me. For the dough, the Miata is more fun, imo, because you get all that and a top that drops.

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shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	I would probably buy the Toyota over the Subaru, unless there were significant performance reasons. I want to go check out the Scion one of these days. I'd also be fine with cheap cloth seats.