Snakes' build thread

Snakes709 · 07-24-2012, 11:19 AM

Well i got the head off. Good news is the cylinder walls arent damaged, even with a piece of the piston missing. The bad news is, i got a feeling the head is no good. The damage is pretty deep. Also one of the exhaust valves for #1 isnt sitting right, im assuming thats slightly bent but didnt cause any damage to the head. Heres some pictures.

evoAXE · 07-24-2012, 03:25 PM

Wow nice ride man

Unique_Z · 07-24-2012, 04:15 PM

so you're going to rebuild the head? goodluck on that

and i'm sorry for your damage.

Snakes709 · 07-24-2012, 06:50 PM

Yea i just brought the head to a shop to get it inspected. They said it can be repaired but what they said they had to do, doesnt sit right with me. I'm aiming for 500hp and reving to 8500rpm. So i dont want this biting me in the ***. So im going to fork out the extra money for a new head. It might set me back time and money wise. But its not worth saving a few hundred if the repairs fail and i blow the motor a second time.

Snakes709 · 08-02-2012, 08:22 PM

Got the motor, tcase and transmission out. After talking to Dino from Speed Circuit for about an hour on the phone. I'm going to go with a built head with stage 1 porting and a built block, sleeved and bored out to a 2.2L. I'll stick with my FP Red unless i can find someone to do a trade or really good deal on a FP Black.

BigT · 08-03-2012, 08:48 AM

FP Red with the 2.2 is going to feel awesome. Good luck with it.

Snakes709 · 08-06-2012, 12:58 PM

slowly but surely im getting everything out...

cow · 08-06-2012, 01:49 PM

Slowly nothing-- you move faster than just about anyone else I've seen. I'd still be sitting on my hands lamenting my bad luck.

Snakes709 · 08-06-2012, 01:58 PM

haha, true. Well the reason im moving at this pace is because i had 3 weeks off of work (i go back tomorrow) and i blew the engine 2 days before my leave. So the last 3 weeks with no car and nothing to do, gave me plenty of time to rip it apart. Also note, i have NEVER ripped apart an engine...lol. So breaking down the entire black is a nice learning expeirence for me. That being said, ill most likely not being doing the install. Still debating my plan but ill most likely send the block to Speed Circuit. What im doing now is ripping out everything that is damaged and not needed for them. Trying to cut as much weight off of it as i can so the shipping isnt a killer. But because i dont have the cash and i need to get my gf an engagement ring, plus get my ZX6R back on the road. I probably wont be ordering any parts for about a year or so. I picked up a 03 Cavalier for $600 so im hoping that will last me until i get the Evo back on the road.

Also note, all this work on the engine is done in my apartment parking lot and patio, lmao.

Snakes709 · 08-12-2012, 08:44 PM

So i just sold my FP Red for $1800 and im picking up a FP Black from my buddy when he gets it off his car next week. It's pretty much brand new. For some reason he switched from a FP Green, to the black and just with a base tune made 400whp. And then changed his mind and wants to go with a AMS kit. So now my parts consist of...

Ball Bearing FP Black, ported, 25psi WGA, hiflow oil feed line
2.2L sleeve blocked with Arias Pistons and Manley I beam rods
ARP Head and Main Studs
Main and Rod Bearings
Speed Circuit Stage 2 ported head
+1mm Valves
GSC Valve Springs
GSC S2 Cams
Mishmoto Dual core oil cooler kit
Jacks Transmission and Tcase rebuild/upgrade

estimated hp. 500hp on low boost, 600hp on high boost

Shamu · 08-13-2012, 09:11 PM

This story isn't like any other I have seen with modded EVOs. Blown motors, broken trannies are pretty much par for the course,

Hmmm I have a 437 WHP 370 Z with 3 year 36 k mile warranty on motor and drivetrain. Haven't broke anything for 6 months now.

Seems like goal one " dont blow it up" was violated in quick order with the "cheap" EVO?

Stock 500 hp GTR is looking like a bargin to me!

Snakes709 · 08-14-2012, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamu

This story isn't like any other I have seen with modded EVOs. Blown motors, broken trannies are pretty much par for the course,

Hmmm I have a 437 WHP 370 Z with 3 year 36 k mile warranty on motor and drivetrain. Haven't broke anything for 6 months now.

Seems like goal one " dont blow it up" was violated in quick order with the "cheap" EVO?

Stock 500 hp GTR is looking like a bargin to me!

It wasnt the car or the motor and its not "cheap" its all about the tune. Unfortunely my tuner didnt do much for the knock that was showing and it eventualy blew the engine.

cow · 08-14-2012, 09:35 AM

Shamu, go crap on someone else's thread.

nuTinmuch · 08-14-2012, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snakes709

It wasnt the car or the motor and its not "cheap" its all about the tune. Unfortunely my tuner didnt do much for the knock that was showing and it eventualy blew the engine.

This, right here. Tune is EVERYTHING with an FI car. It's really frustrating to find a good tuner who you can trust (without having to sort through hype/horror stories).

Snakes709 · 08-14-2012, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamu

This story isn't like any other I have seen with modded EVOs. Blown motors, broken trannies are pretty much par for the course,

Hmmm I have a 437 WHP 370 Z with 3 year 36 k mile warranty on motor and drivetrain. Haven't broke anything for 6 months now.

Seems like goal one " dont blow it up" was violated in quick order with the "cheap" EVO?

Stock 500 hp GTR is looking like a bargin to me!

As well as if you have 437hp on your 370z, that means you have some serious mods, which means if you pop your engine... You have no warrenty

07-24-2012, 11:19 AM	#106 (permalink)
Snakes709 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 Evo-X GSR Rep Power: 17	Well i got the head off. Good news is the cylinder walls arent damaged, even with a piece of the piston missing. The bad news is, i got a feeling the head is no good. The damage is pretty deep. Also one of the exhaust valves for #1 isnt sitting right, im assuming thats slightly bent but didnt cause any damage to the head. Heres some pictures. __________________ 2011 Evo-GSR AMS 2.4 stroker/ bore, FP Black build in progress. Sponsor: DSG Performance

07-24-2012, 04:15 PM	#108 (permalink)
Unique_Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Brunei Posts: 1,515 Drives: 370Z, 180SX Rep Power: 17	so you're going to rebuild the head? goodluck on that and i'm sorry for your damage. __________________ My Z Build UniqueZ

07-24-2012, 06:50 PM	#109 (permalink)
Snakes709 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 Evo-X GSR Rep Power: 17	Yea i just brought the head to a shop to get it inspected. They said it can be repaired but what they said they had to do, doesnt sit right with me. I'm aiming for 500hp and reving to 8500rpm. So i dont want this biting me in the *. So im going to fork out the extra money for a new head. It might set me back time and money wise. But its not worth saving a few hundred if the repairs fail and i blow the motor a second time. __________________ 2011 Evo-GSR** AMS 2.4 stroker/ bore, FP Black build in progress. Sponsor: DSG Performance

08-02-2012, 08:22 PM	#110 (permalink)
Snakes709 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 Evo-X GSR Rep Power: 17	Got the motor, tcase and transmission out. After talking to Dino from Speed Circuit for about an hour on the phone. I'm going to go with a built head with stage 1 porting and a built block, sleeved and bored out to a 2.2L. I'll stick with my FP Red unless i can find someone to do a trade or really good deal on a FP Black. __________________ 2011 Evo-GSR AMS 2.4 stroker/ bore, FP Black build in progress. Sponsor: DSG Performance

08-06-2012, 12:58 PM	#112 (permalink)
Snakes709 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 Evo-X GSR Rep Power: 17	slowly but surely im getting everything out... __________________ 2011 Evo-GSR AMS 2.4 stroker/ bore, FP Black build in progress. Sponsor: DSG Performance

07-24-2012, 03:25 PM	#107 (permalink)
evoAXE Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: behind you Posts: 87 Drives: evoX & 370z Rep Power: 0	Wow nice ride man

08-03-2012, 08:48 AM	#111 (permalink)
BigT Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 469 Drives: 98 2g DSM Rep Power: 13	FP Red with the 2.2 is going to feel awesome. Good luck with it.

08-06-2012, 01:49 PM	#113 (permalink)
cow Lounge Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,441 Drives: Toyota Avalon Rep Power: 267	Slowly nothing-- you move faster than just about anyone else I've seen. I'd still be sitting on my hands lamenting my bad luck.

08-06-2012, 01:58 PM	#114 (permalink)
Snakes709 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 Evo-X GSR Rep Power: 17	haha, true. Well the reason im moving at this pace is because i had 3 weeks off of work (i go back tomorrow) and i blew the engine 2 days before my leave. So the last 3 weeks with no car and nothing to do, gave me plenty of time to rip it apart. Also note, i have NEVER ripped apart an engine...lol. So breaking down the entire black is a nice learning expeirence for me. That being said, ill most likely not being doing the install. Still debating my plan but ill most likely send the block to Speed Circuit. What im doing now is ripping out everything that is damaged and not needed for them. Trying to cut as much weight off of it as i can so the shipping isnt a killer. But because i dont have the cash and i need to get my gf an engagement ring, plus get my ZX6R back on the road. I probably wont be ordering any parts for about a year or so. I picked up a 03 Cavalier for $600 so im hoping that will last me until i get the Evo back on the road. Also note, all this work on the engine is done in my apartment parking lot and patio, lmao. __________________ 2011 Evo-GSR AMS 2.4 stroker/ bore, FP Black build in progress. Sponsor: DSG Performance Last edited by Snakes709; 08-06-2012 at 02:01 PM.

08-12-2012, 08:44 PM	#115 (permalink)
Snakes709 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 Evo-X GSR Rep Power: 17	So i just sold my FP Red for $1800 and im picking up a FP Black from my buddy when he gets it off his car next week. It's pretty much brand new. For some reason he switched from a FP Green, to the black and just with a base tune made 400whp. And then changed his mind and wants to go with a AMS kit. So now my parts consist of... Ball Bearing FP Black, ported, 25psi WGA, hiflow oil feed line 2.2L sleeve blocked with Arias Pistons and Manley I beam rods ARP Head and Main Studs Main and Rod Bearings Speed Circuit Stage 2 ported head +1mm Valves GSC Valve Springs GSC S2 Cams Mishmoto Dual core oil cooler kit Jacks Transmission and Tcase rebuild/upgrade estimated hp. 500hp on low boost, 600hp on high boost __________________ 2011 Evo-GSR AMS 2.4 stroker/ bore, FP Black build in progress. Sponsor: DSG Performance

08-13-2012, 09:11 PM	#116 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 19	This story isn't like any other I have seen with modded EVOs. Blown motors, broken trannies are pretty much par for the course, Hmmm I have a 437 WHP 370 Z with 3 year 36 k mile warranty on motor and drivetrain. Haven't broke anything for 6 months now. Seems like goal one " dont blow it up" was violated in quick order with the "cheap" EVO? Stock 500 hp GTR is looking like a bargin to me! __________________ Grant

08-14-2012, 09:35 AM	#118 (permalink)
cow Lounge Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,441 Drives: Toyota Avalon Rep Power: 267	Shamu, go crap on someone else's thread.

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