2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe Face-Lifted

Isamu · 11-15-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NewlyIMPORTed

I like it all.. I'm scared for the z at the rate they are going with the gen coupe..

it will still be heavier... like Red said, dynamics...

prabap61 · 11-23-2011, 01:12 PM

good looking but have to see how it performs in the market.

Cmike2780 · 11-15-2011, 02:04 PM

I still think the Z will outpace the Gen Coupe, even with the power bump . The Nismo afterall, also has 350 hp and not that much faster than a non-Nismo Z. Granted Hyudai is claiming 295 lb-ft of torque (pretty big jump by the way) could make things interesting. The weight advantage isn't that much compared to the Z since the Gen Coupe weighs roughly 3,400 lbs.

Lug · 11-15-2011, 02:15 PM

If you dump the numbers in an online calculator, the Z and the Genesis come up dead even on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Being lighter will help the Z a bit in the handling department, all other things being equal.

Cmike2780 · 11-15-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

If you dump the numbers in an online calculator, the Z and the Genesis come up dead even on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Being lighter will help the Z a bit in the handling department, all other things being equal.

0-60 and 1/4 mile times always had the Z faster, with a higher trap speed and far from dead even. Stock Z runs in the low-mid 13's with Gen Coupe in the high 13's-low 14's range. 0-60 was in the high 5's for the Gen Coupe. The closest match was the Mustang, before they came out with the 5.0. Online calculators don't take everything and you can't really go by that and I'd have to see and believe an extra 44 hp could cut a second off. We'll have to wait and see how it really runs.

Lug · 11-15-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

0-60 and 1/4 mile times always had the Z faster, with a higher trap speed and far from dead even. Stock Z runs in the low-mid 13's with Gen Coupe in the high 13's-low 14's range. 0-60 was in the high 5's for the Gen Coupe. The closest match was the Mustang, before they came out with the 5.0. Online calculators don't take everything and you can't really go by that and I'd have to see and believe an extra 44 hp could cut a second off. We'll have to wait and see how it really runs.

General rule of thumb is about .1 sec for every 10 hp in the weight range, so if the Gcoupe was .5 sec slower, this will bring it almost even, maybe just a tic slower.

Cmike2780 · 11-15-2011, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

General rule of thumb is about .1 sec for every 10 hp in the weight range, so if the Gcoupe was .5 sec slower, this will bring it almost even, maybe just a tic slower.

By that logic the Nismo should hit 0-60 in the mid 4's, which it doesn't to my knowledge. I do agree it will be a close race though.

Lug · 11-16-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

By that logic the Nismo should hit 0-60 in the mid 4's, which it doesn't to my knowledge. I do agree it will be a close race though.

Agreed. The logic falicy however is how the NISM0 added 5 to 6% more power and supposedly better tires yet gained no discernable speed increase at all, regardless of how any other car stacks up.

280z/300zx · 11-17-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

By that logic the Nismo should hit 0-60 in the mid 4's, which it doesn't to my knowledge. I do agree it will be a close race though.

Remember, the Nismo is not putting down the times "it should" due to the stiffer suspension. It's a known fact that the stiffer suspension of the Nismo hinders it's 0-60 and 1/4 mile times which is why dispite having a power increase over the standard 370z it doesn't put down any better times. The dyno clearly shows that the Nismo puts down more power, it just can't get that power down to the ground.

As others have mentioned, the Genesis will be about the dynamics of the car. It may have the power but if gearing isn't good, suspension, etc then it won't pull that much better numbers. You can drastically change a cars 0-60 and 1/4 mile times just changing the gearing and suspension while leaving the power alone. The Z in theory could be faster than it is but it's set up to handle more so than to drag race. It will depend on how the genesis has been set up.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-11-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

By that logic the Nismo should hit 0-60 in the mid 4's, which it doesn't to my knowledge. I do agree it will be a close race though.

Seems to me the automatic Z and NISMO z both are capable of hitting the mid 4's.

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TypeOne · 11-15-2011, 04:42 PM

I wonder if the rear quarter glasses will fall out of these like the old model did. LOL

All hating aside, it's ugly.

:-P

shadoquad · 11-15-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeOne

All hating aside, it's ugly.

This statement, isolated, is hilarious!!! <3

370Ztune · 11-15-2011, 05:50 PM

It's an interesting look. Kinda sucks that the turbo version jumped so much in power; it's like a burn for the guys that bought the older car...

phelan · 11-15-2011, 05:55 PM

They should write to Hyundai North America and demand a retrofit. It's a sports car, it should have come with a turbo to begin with

370Ztune · 11-15-2011, 06:01 PM

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They should write to Hyundai North America and demand a retrofit. It's a sports car, it should have come with a turbo to begin with

HAHA!

It did, they just got bs power to match that turbo - 210hp versus the ~270 now.

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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 30	I still think the Z will outpace the Gen Coupe, even with the power bump . The Nismo afterall, also has 350 hp and not that much faster than a non-Nismo Z. Granted Hyudai is claiming 295 lb-ft of torque (pretty big jump by the way) could make things interesting. The weight advantage isn't that much compared to the Z since the Gen Coupe weighs roughly 3,400 lbs. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

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Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 21	If you dump the numbers in an online calculator, the Z and the Genesis come up dead even on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Being lighter will help the Z a bit in the handling department, all other things being equal. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

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phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 40 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3408	They should write to Hyundai North America and demand a retrofit. It's a sports car, it should have come with a turbo to begin with __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

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TypeOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 2,682 Drives: BSM 370 Rep Power: 1852	I wonder if the rear quarter glasses will fall out of these like the old model did. LOL All hating aside, it's ugly. :-P

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