Supercharged Genesis Coupe

partsguy · 09-29-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

From a driver perspective, I don't think this car needs more power, really, to be an enjoyable car to drive. I love everything about the Z owner, Z driver experience.

From a marketing perspective, I agree with most everyone here that Nissan has to do something for the Z to survive (unless they just keep it like a phantom limb like the RX8).

It doesn't have to be more power or better handling, either. It could be something tech savvy or aesthetically pleasing. They just can't rest on their laurels anymore. It doesn't best its rivals at the track and has only two seats.

I agree to a point... most people, buy the Z to drive (not to race). So saying it loses at the track is a moot point, really. But Nissan does need to do a little more tech-savy "stuff" to the ride to catch up with competitors.

b1adesofcha0s · 09-29-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by partsguy

I agree to a point... most people, buy the Z to drive (not to race). So saying it loses at the track is a moot point, really. But Nissan does need to do a little more tech-savy "stuff" to the ride to catch up with competitors.

Yes but a lot of people buy it because of its performance. If it's performance can not match up with it's competitors then it will lose a lot of sales because it it. Not saying everyone is like that, but a lot of people look at that when deciding what car to buy.

partsguy · 09-29-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Yes but a lot of people buy it because of its performance. If it's performance can not match up with it's competitors then it will lose a lot of sales because it it. Not saying everyone is like that, but a lot of people look at that when deciding what car to buy.

Agreed.... BUT.... dollar for dollar(?) The Z has great value.

ImportConvert · 09-29-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by partsguy

Agreed.... BUT.... dollar for dollar(?) The Z has great value.

The V6 mustang matches most of it's performance numbers on the track, or comes very close. That's not okay.

shadoquad · 09-29-2011, 12:33 PM

Again, I'll say that 300 hp is fast and fun performance.

But I agree with the idea that if you're a performance nut, and you want to compare with the Joneses on performance, the Z is going to lag behind.

I'm not saying the Z's a bad car. I love it, baby, love it! But if you care about speed/performance numbers, you will not buy the Z based on its competitors, and since it's a performance car, that does not bode well.

Moar Power, less weight, tech toys. That's gotta happen imo.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-29-2011, 12:39 PM

Hey guys, don't get too pessimistic. Look at it like this. The difference between the gencoupe and Z currently in RWHP is only about 8hp our advantage. Our weight about 100lbs our advantage. Yet our accelrations compare like we have a 300lb advantage and 50rwhp more. So this SC may only break them even with our 7at's which are our fastest accelrators. The SC may give them an advantage up top, but we may be able to run, considering the lackluster current platform? The current gen can't keep up with our stock cars with full bolt-ons and a tune. So the SC will be hard at work. I'm not saying we will beat there SC car. I'm just saying that it might not look like that much of an advantage compared to there power gain. GTM BETTER START GIVING SOME VALUE DEALS! LOL.

PS. I accidently made a second thread on this subject. Please forgive me.

NYBladeZ · 09-29-2011, 06:29 PM

I love the Z06 but everyone seems to have one these days. A supercharged genesis coupe will put out about 333hp at crank.

ImportConvert · 09-29-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

I love the Z06 but everyone seems to have one these days. A supercharged genesis coupe will put out about 333hp at crank.

370Z's were produced something like 5:1 to the Z06 for the last few years from what I gather on the production #'s.

wstar · 09-29-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

370Z's were produced something like 5:1 to the Z06 for the last few years from what I gather on the production #'s.

Probably true, but lots of non-Z06 vettes are on the street too. Most people can't tell the difference and don't care.

ImportConvert · 09-29-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar

Probably true, but lots of non-Z06 vettes are on the street too. Most people can't tell the difference and don't care.

+1, but in the end, screw that. Didn't buy it to be seen in it. Bought it to drive!

09-29-2011, 12:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	Hey guys, don't get too pessimistic. Look at it like this. The difference between the gencoupe and Z currently in RWHP is only about 8hp our advantage. Our weight about 100lbs our advantage. Yet our accelrations compare like we have a 300lb advantage and 50rwhp more. So this SC may only break them even with our 7at's which are our fastest accelrators. The SC may give them an advantage up top, but we may be able to run, considering the lackluster current platform? The current gen can't keep up with our stock cars with full bolt-ons and a tune. So the SC will be hard at work. I'm not saying we will beat there SC car. I'm just saying that it might not look like that much of an advantage compared to there power gain. GTM BETTER START GIVING SOME VALUE DEALS! LOL. PS. I accidently made a second thread on this subject. Please forgive me. Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 09-29-2011 at 12:42 PM.

09-29-2011, 06:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 21	I love the Z06 but everyone seems to have one these days. A supercharged genesis coupe will put out about 333hp at crank. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

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09-29-2011, 12:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3887	Again, I'll say that 300 hp is fast and fun performance. But I agree with the idea that if you're a performance nut, and you want to compare with the Joneses on performance, the Z is going to lag behind. I'm not saying the Z's a bad car. I love it, baby, love it! But if you care about speed/performance numbers, you will not buy the Z based on its competitors, and since it's a performance car, that does not bode well. Moar Power, less weight, tech toys. That's gotta happen imo.