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b1adesofcha0s 09-22-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1324808)
The suspense is killing me!

:eekdance:

red6spd 09-22-2011 08:52 AM

Loving the Tags guys :ugh2:

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 09:17 AM

Like the one you added a lot. Classy touch :tiphat:

GZ3 09-22-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1324821)
Loving the Tags guys :ugh2:

:icon18:

red6spd 09-22-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1324860)
Like the one you added a lot. Classy touch :tiphat:



I added nothing. Those are all from you guys.

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 10:35 AM

Filled up this tank this morning for the 2nd time. Saw 25.4 mpgs.

On the same commute, I was getting 21-23 mpgs in the z. At this same mileage z was getting sub-15(still breaking in).

Can not complain.

GZ3 09-22-2011 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1324970)
Filled up this tank this morning for the 2nd time. Saw 25.4 mpgs.

On the same commute, I was getting 21-23 mpgs in the z. At this same mileage z was getting sub-15(still breaking in).

Can not complain.

am lucky to hit 18 after my mods and tune....unless its a long road trip...be prepared lol

m4a1mustang 09-22-2011 11:42 AM

I have been averaging 18-19 on my daily commute with the cooler weather (roughly the same as my Z). On our trip down to ZDayZ I averaged about 26 mpg for the whole trip.

GZ3 09-22-2011 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1325082)
I have been averaging 18-19 on my daily commute with the cooler weather (roughly the same as my Z). On our trip down to ZDayZ I averaged about 26 mpg for the whole trip.

your running cats with your X?

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 11:45 AM

My commute is a little odd though...half of it has 75mph speed limits...

b1adesofcha0s 09-22-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325095)
My commute is a little odd though...half of it has 75mph speed limits...

:eek:

Sounds like fun.

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1324966)
I added nothing. Those are all from you guys.

Really? Because "red__zed is a wannabe car guy" has your name attached to it:ugh2:

m4a1mustang 09-22-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1325093)
your running cats with your X?

Yeah, stock cats.

m4a1mustang 09-22-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325104)
Really? Because "red__zed is a wannabe car guy" has your name attached to it:ugh2:

I want your power. :mad:

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1325110)
I want your power. :mad:

Meet me behind the Starbucks at 9:30 this Saturday and I will show you how to reach enlightenment

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 11:56 AM

Also, took the car out on Bankhead the other day to give it some twisty action. Noticed the rear felt a tad underdamped. Any of you other guys feel the same way?

m4a1mustang 09-22-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325125)
Also, took the car out on Bankhead the other day to give it some twisty action. Noticed the rear felt a tad underdamped. Any of you other guys feel the same way?

Hence the Konis. That's the only complaint about the suspension -- rear is a little underdamped at speed. Konis change the game.

Or even the Tokicos on the Boss.

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1325130)
Hence the Konis. That's the only complaint about the suspension -- rear is a little underdamped at speed. Konis change the game.

Or even the Tokicos on the Boss.

Ugh, I knew you'd try to sell me on stuff.

I wanna win my autocross class this year, and I know I can if I keep the mustang in f stock, lol. Brb beating camaros by 20 seconds....:bowrofl:

Sibze 09-22-2011 12:00 PM

troll troll troll your boat :bowrofl::roflpuke2::bowrofl::roflpuke2:

Epic

Isamu 09-22-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325143)
Ugh, I knew you'd try to sell me on stuff.

I wanna win my autocross class this year, and I know I can if I keep the mustang in f stock, lol. Brb beating camaros by 20 seconds....:bowrofl:

:tup:

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1325145)
troll troll troll your boat :bowrofl::roflpuke2::bowrofl::roflpuke2:

Epic

It is funny looking at the normal view of the tags, and trying to guess whether the tags were blades joking or red6spd being mad....

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1325151)
:tup:

I borrowed a bone stock 5.0 on a course down here, and laid down the fastest stock class time of the day...on my first run in the car. It also competes in one of the slowest classes out there...I think that will be fixed soon:bowrofl:

b1adesofcha0s 09-22-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325143)
Ugh, I knew you'd try to sell me on stuff.

I wanna win my autocross class this year, and I know I can if I keep the mustang in f stock, lol. Brb beating camaros by 20 seconds....:bowrofl:

Nice :tup:

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1325145)
troll troll troll your boat :bowrofl::roflpuke2::bowrofl::roflpuke2:

Epic

:iagree: Wonder who made that one.

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325152)
It is funny looking at the normal view of the tags, and trying to guess whether the tags were blades joking or red6spd being mad....

:icon18: The only one I added here was 5.troll

red6spd 09-22-2011 12:53 PM

Yea I made the tag after seeing all the ones about me. I have nothing to be mad about dont kid yourself.

b1adesofcha0s 09-22-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1325255)
Yea I made the tag after seeing all the ones about me. I have nothing to be mad about dont kid yourself.

:ohsnap1: :drama: :roflpuke2:

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1323550)
Yeah, it was really a huge inconvenience to post up a picture--why would you bother posting something obviously false when everyone has access to it and the ability to call you out on it?

?

red6spd 09-22-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325280)
?



Did not even see you post this... Yea I was wrong. Not everyone is perfect like you sorry. Any response on the vids I posted??? I mean I'm sure you will just come up with some kind of excuse like "oh that parking lot favored the Z" And for a car having almost 100hp more running the quarter in only like what 3-4 tenths of a second more is not very impressive. Let me save you the time...


Red_Zed: There are guys running low 12's stock so all the test and magazines that show it running 13's are wrong.

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1325303)
Did not even see you post this... Yea I was wrong. Not everyone is perfect like you sorry. Any response on the vids I posted??? I mean I'm sure you will just come up with some kind of excuse like "oh that parking lot favored the Z" And for a car having almost 100hp more running the quarter in only like what 3-4 tenths of a second more is not very impressive. Let me save you the time...


Red_Zed: There are guys running low 12's stock so all the test and magazines that show it running 13's are wrong.

What response do you want to the vids? I saw nothing we didn't already know....the z puts down great magazine numbers.


Blades can give you the explanation for why his crack into the 12s doesn't compare to mag times. I've explained it once, and you seem to have missed it. And no one runs the z low 12s stock....

red6spd 09-22-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325315)
What response do you want to the vids? I saw nothing we didn't already know....the z puts down great magazine numbers.


Blades can give you the explanation for why his crack into the 12s doesn't compare to mag times. I've explained it once, and you seem to have missed it. And no one runs the z low 12s stock....



LOL, so the Z puts down great "mag numbers?" WTF does that mean. So in the real world your 5.0 would stop better and pull better skid pad results slalom etc?? But once we do a test for a Mag the Z is killing the Stang in the turns? Just did a quick search on Youtube and it seems like a BONE STOCK I made that big cause alot of people think BONE STOCK means slicks are running mid to low 13's.

Blades car hit a 12.9. Thats not that far off the 13.2-13.3 the Z runs (according to most mags) and his is an Auto which is faster then the 6MT. I read and see the 5.0 running 13-13.4 ish, but here from people that the car is running mid 12's stock.

b1adesofcha0s 09-22-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325315)
What response do you want to the vids? I saw nothing we didn't already know....the z puts down great magazine numbers.


Blades can give you the explanation for why his crack into the 12s doesn't compare to mag times. I've explained it once, and you seem to have missed it. And no one runs the z low 12s stock....

:werd:

That run was all just luck. Perfect conditions + perfect time = that run. Haven't been able to get into the 12's again after that run, not even after modding. Just because it happened once doesn't mean it is the norm. That was a run under ideal conditions, which is never the case 99.99% of the time so it doesn't really mean anything. Look at the average times people are getting, that's a better indication of a car's capability.

b1adesofcha0s 09-22-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1325338)
LOL, so the Z puts down great "mag numbers?" WTF does that mean. So in the real world your 5.0 would stop better and pull better skid pad results slalom etc?? But once we do a test for a Mag the Z is killing the Stang in the turns? Just did a quick search on Youtube and it seems like a BONE STOCK I made that big cause alot of people think BONE STOCK means slicks are running mid to low 13's.

Blades car hit a 12.9. Thats not that far off the 13.2-13.3 the Z runs (according to most mags) and his is an Auto which is faster then the 6MT. I read and see the 5.0 running 13-13.4 ish, but here from people that the car is running mid 12's stock.

Steve's time in the 5.0 was in the high 12's and would have been better if his wheels weren't spinning all the way down the track.

red6spd 09-22-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1325345)
Steve's time in the 5.0 was in the high 12's and would have been better if his wheels weren't spinning all the way down the track.



The mods were not huge, but he was not stock.

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1325338)
LOL, so the Z puts down great "mag numbers?" WTF does that mean. So in the real world your 5.0 would stop better and pull better skid pad results slalom etc?? But once we do a test for a Mag the Z is killing the Stang in the turns? Just did a quick search on Youtube and it seems like a BONE STOCK I made that big cause alot of people think BONE STOCK means slicks are running mid to low 13's.

Blades car hit a 12.9. Thats not that far off the 13.2-13.3 the Z runs (according to most mags) and his is an Auto which is faster then the 6MT. I read and see the 5.0 running 13-13.4 ish, but here from people that the car is running mid 12's stock.


Putting down great mag numbers means it does well in the objective testing they do...Just like AMD designs chips around beating Intel in benchmarks, without much of a focus on real world performance. For instance, the balance in the Z is set up poorly for performance (severe understeer), but it sets it up to lay down eye-popping skidpad numbers. Because the test is done under constant acceleration around a 200ft skidpad, the Z's handling is neutral *during that specific test*. If you look at the real world numbers, on a track, you often see the Z pulls nothing near the advertised levels of grip, because unless you enter the corner slowly and power out...you never see them. And on many corners, the Z doesn't have enough power to dump enough weight on the rear tires.
*
I feel like you are being unclear about what you are claiming on track times...can you clarify please?

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1325339)
:werd:

That run was all just luck. Perfect conditions + perfect time = that run. Haven't been able to get into the 12's again after that run, not even after modding. Just because it happened once doesn't mean it is the norm. That was a run under ideal conditions, which is never the case 99.99% of the time so it doesn't really mean anything. Look at the average times people are getting, that's a better indication of a car's capability.

And published times are corrected. I think that run corrected to a 13.2 or so. Still fast, just pointless to compare to a time that has had the correction applied.


Also, the non-stock rear tires likely affected the time by allowing controlled wheelspin :rofl2:

b1adesofcha0s 09-22-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325369)
And published times are corrected. I think that run corrected to a 13.2 or so. Still fast, just pointless to compare to a time that has had the correction applied.


Also, the non-stock rear tires likely affected the time by allowing controlled wheelspin :rofl2:

Shush! I think it was corrected to a 13.0 from what I remember. I checked a while ago though.

Or maybe the stock tires would have had no wheelspin at all so I could have done a little better???? :p

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1325373)
Shush! I think it was corrected to a 13.0 from what I remember. I checked a while ago though.

Or maybe the stock tires would have had no wheelspin at all so I could have done a little better???? :p

Haha, or you would have bogged:bowrofl:

Looking back, 13.16 is the Corrected time I see...which is pretty beast

b1adesofcha0s 09-22-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325376)
Haha, or you would have bogged:bowrofl:

Looking back, 13.16 is the Corrected time I see...which is pretty beast

Let's just say I would have been faster :rolleyes:

:tup:

Hopefully I can finally beat that time when I get my intakes on. Otherwise I'm the only person who managed to make their car slower after adding mods :rofl2:

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1325382)
Let's just say I would have been faster :rolleyes:

:tup:

Hopefully I can finally beat that time when I get my intakes on. Otherwise I'm the only person who managed to make their car slower after adding mods :rofl2:

That's the thing...your car is probably faster now...you just aren't comparing corrected times. Did you do corrections on your last set of runs?

b1adesofcha0s 09-22-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325388)
That's the thing...your car is probably faster now...you just aren't comparing corrected times. Did you do corrections on your last set of runs?

No, but I will go do it once I get home and look at my time slips again.

shadoquad 09-22-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1325366)
Putting down great mag numbers means it does well in the objective testing they do...Just like AMD designs chips around beating Intel in benchmarks, without much of a focus on real world performance. For instance, the balance in the Z is set up poorly for performance (severe understeer), but it sets it up to lay down eye-popping skidpad numbers. Because the test is done under constant acceleration around a 200ft skidpad, the Z's handling is neutral *during that specific test*. If you look at the real world numbers, on a track, you often see the Z pulls nothing near the advertised levels of grip, because unless you enter the corner slowly and power out...you never see them. And on many corners, the Z doesn't have enough power to dump enough weight on the rear tires.
*
I feel like you are being unclear about what you are claiming on track times...can you clarify please?

Dude, the Z handles very, very well. I'm overwhelmed with its level of grip.

Granted, I've never tracked it, but it handles on rails in the twisties.


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