wife is going to be making more then me... so I will haz money! :bowrofl::bowrofl:

Yeah, it won't be straight retro but it will share elements with previous generations. Much like the 370 has a modern look but shares a lot of lines with the original Zs. :tup:

Auto only killed the gator for me. Almost picked one up instead of the z (would have been a huge mistake in 2010), but test drove one and was not fan.

Funny looking back, at the time I couldn't get a test drive in a wrx because of the Subaru insurance issue...but the gtr was no problem. Took it out for half a day with no questions asked....

Same here. I appreciate the numbers the GTR puts down, but overall it's not really that fun to drive for me. I prefer the traditional three pedal and 6 speed setup. :tup:

The numbers are spectacular.

A two-ton four-seater that can lap the world's greatest race tracks as fast as the world's premiere two-seat exotic sports cars, and it costs less than 100k.

I prefer a three pedal, too, but I agree, the numbers are awesome.

You corssed shopped a GTR with a Z? 80-90k VS 30-40K. Dont people who consider GTR's also consider Vipers, Lambos, ETC not entry level sports cars???

Even though duel clutches are automatics. They'd be the only autos that I'd consider.

I decided two entry level sports cars would be more fun than dumping all my money in a single car. :tup:

Drove a viper as well, lambo's were not in my price range, at least not in condition I'd want them in

Your a pretty modest guy. You can afford GTR's Vipers used Lambos but ended up with a Z a Rex and now a Stang.

Not necessarily.

Value shoppers will look at just about everything. I looked at the Cayman S and bought the 370Z instead. Something like a 25k price difference there.

I have looked at the 2012 Porsche 911 which is 3-4x the price of my 5.0.

I can't speak for Dan, but I would guess that he's like me in that he wants a good value when he buys a car so he doesn't have to take money away from other hobbies. I know I could go out and buy a new 911, but then I'd have to cut spending elsewhere and that's not really something I want to do.

FWIW, I have a client with a net worth of $20 million. Last year he called me up to do a wire. For a car. "Ok," I thought, "Lambo? Aston? Porsche?" Nope. $20k wire to cover the purchase of a Civic.

I can see the Cayman S vs Z shopping. The Z does everything the Porsche does for like you said alot less. But a GTR VS a Z, no comparison same with the Viper VS Z rex Stang

plus, car enthusiasts want to drive everything. When I was at a Mazda dealer, testing the MS3 and MX-5, the salesman said, "Wanna take out the RX-8 while you're here?" Gladly, I accepted. I didn't want it to start, and I ended up not liking it as much as the Z, but if I'd not driven it, I wouldn't have known what to think.

There is at least one guy on this forum that traded his GTR for a 370.

I think we are pretty similar in that respect...I'm not looking to waste huge amounts of money on a car, but I'll do it if it makes sense. Right now
I have other priorities, like traveling and building my collection of polite tea party guests

Life's not about buying the most expensive things you can afford.

My rolex begs to differ.

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Just because you can afford a $100,000 car doesn't mean that's all you're going to look at. Enthusiasts don't discriminate based on price... they are looking for fun.

If I've got $100k to blow on a car and stumble across one for $25k that is fun as heck to drive, I'm probably going to buy it.

:iagree:

I seek to maximize the fun/$ ratio.

Example: Why pay $500/hr for a high dollar hooker when I could get shado all night for just one pumpkin spice latte?

:yum: punkin spies lottay

If that's what fulfills you, have at it. I happened to feel my omega was cooler:icon23:
...which is basically like buying a fit instead of a gtr...

Had one this weekend for the first time this year :yum::yum:

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Or my Seiko, which is like buying a Tata Nano instead of a GTR. :rofl2:

I love my Z but I would have to say a GTR or a Viper is alot more fun then a Z. Dont get me wrong if I was rich I would probably still have a Z along with something crazy just because I love the Z and its a great car. People dont cross shop cars like that, when is the last time you talked to someone who was stuck between a Merc C63 AMG and a Taurus SHO?

Or my citizen, which is like buying some flip flops

You'd be surprised about the fun factor; the GTR is fast and grips like hell, but the Z feels more nimble and the driver feels more involved. To me, the Z was way more fun than the GTR.

Viper, I don't know. It's almost got too much power for the street; on track it'd be a ball, though.

Someone looking at a Merc C63 AMG is usually after performance with status, so you're right, they aren't going to cross shop with a SHO.

But when you're talking sports cars, enthusiast shoppers care more about fun than anything else.

Or my sun dial, which is like shadoerps.

Or my looking at the sky and guessing, which is like the 07+ jeep wrangler.

And that my friends, is as low as it goes

unless its a haus :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Actually, I could see someone cross shopping a Merc and a Taurus. If it's someone who can afford both, maybe they consider saving a ton of money.

Anyway, when I shopped, I cross-shopped sports cars and hot hatches. That's not always intuitive. The first time I bought, I cross-shopped sports cars, hatches, and sedans.

No matter what you do, your house expands to be the most expensive thing you can afford.

Finally got the budget under control...let's put a little crack in the foundation:shakes head:

I'll probably never own a Mustang, though, because I'd hate to downgrade from my Z in terms of performance.

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl: so fucking true!

:stirthepot::stirthepot:

:bowrofl:

:tiphat:

Well I'm glad I traded my Z in... it just had too much power for me.

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Yeah me too























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Me too! I was scarred I was going to kill myself in the Z.

All them people looking at me made me scared