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zuperman 370 07-12-2011 02:24 AM

would you pay 100K for a hyundai?
 
found this on another forum, thought id share it here, it seems that hyundai are bored with trying to mess around with the 370z with the Genesis coup, now they are thinking of taking on the GT-R and 911, they must be out of their minds if they expect people to pay 100K for a hyundai, ok no matter how much they claim the numbers on a car would be, i wouldn't pay 100k for a car with no history i mean i can justify paying that amount for a 911 or GT-R not just for the power and performance of them but also for the wide history of these legendary cars. Just one last thought, Hyundai had a hard time competing with the 370 with their genesis coup, how will they expect to keep up with the GT-R or 911

Hyundai Rumored to be Planning Porsche 911, Nissan GT-R Rival | AutoGuide.com News

ducky 07-12-2011 02:37 AM

hyundai? no thx

CharleyGFX 07-12-2011 02:45 AM

what next? a 100k for a KIA(Killed In Automobile) too? no thanks.. I rather take the 100k and put it all into my Z

zuperman 370 07-12-2011 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharleyGFX (Post 1213156)
what next? a 100k for a KIA(Killed In Automobile) too? no thanks.. I rather take the 100k and put it all into my Z

:icon18::iagree:

Rui Z 07-12-2011 03:39 AM

Good for them. I love that they are taking chances. Where are you Honda???

baldie 07-12-2011 04:17 AM

if it's a great car, i don't see a problem with it

ZCarMan 07-12-2011 05:43 AM

Hyundai has made great strides since they first came onto the scene. Their quality has improved over the years and their sales are a reflection of that. The Elantra, Sonata along with the Genesis Coupe R-Spec and the Equus are also indicative of their move to increase market share by building cars that people are willing to pay for. I personally would not pay 100K for a Hyundai, but then again I wouldn't pay 100K for much of anything. If they do though, it will be good for the auto industry as competition is a good thing. Keeps innovation alive.

ImportConvert 07-12-2011 06:39 AM

You know what's funny? People paying well over 1/4 million for a Lexus.

See, Lexus used to be like Hyundai. BMW/Mercedes/etc. fans thought they were cheap crap. However, through providing equal or superior performance to those cars at cheaper prices, Lexus established itself, and stole a large market segment in the luxury/sport arena. Now, Lexus and BMW and Mercedes are synonymous with each other.

Hyundai looks to be following their exact business model. Look how far they came in just 10 years? Give them another 10 and unless the global economy changes radically, you will be singing another tune.

DjSquall 07-12-2011 06:42 AM

GT-R or take the bus.

I'm never going to stoop down to the Hyundai level no matter what their performance numbers are

bigaudiofanat 07-12-2011 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rui z (Post 1213166)
good for them. I love that they are taking chances. Where are you honda???

this

ZCarMan 07-12-2011 07:33 AM

For those who remember, back in the fifties and sixties if you asked someone what type of words are descriptive of Japanese products, you would have heard, "Cheap", "Crap", etc. Today the same question gets a response more like, "High Tech", "High quality", "I want it", etc. Hyundai hasn't been around for too long but they are definitely making inroads. Since it'll be a while before I will ever need to decide which 100K car I want, I just hope to see as many companies making cars as possible.

WhiskeyHotel 07-12-2011 09:50 AM

Another article:
Hyundai Supercar

Econ 07-12-2011 09:52 AM

100k, nah. 40k, maybe.

m4a1mustang 07-12-2011 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1213203)
You know what's funny? People paying well over 1/4 million for a Lexus.

See, Lexus used to be like Hyundai. BMW/Mercedes/etc. fans thought they were cheap crap. However, through providing equal or superior performance to those cars at cheaper prices, Lexus established itself, and stole a large market segment in the luxury/sport arena. Now, Lexus and BMW and Mercedes are synonymous with each other.

Hyundai looks to be following their exact business model. Look how far they came in just 10 years? Give them another 10 and unless the global economy changes radically, you will be singing another tune.

Ding ding ding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lexus used to be a joke... Infiniti as well. Look at them now.

Hyundai keeps making huge strides. The fact so many enthusiasts talk isht about their lack of automotive pedigree helps their cause. It means they are taking chances and doing things right. Give the brand another 10 years and I'm sure a lot of the nay-sayers will be singing a different tune.

shadoquad 07-12-2011 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 1213238)
For those who remember, back in the fifties and sixties if you asked someone what type of words are descriptive of Japanese products, you would have heard, "Cheap", "Crap", etc. Today the same question gets a response more like, "High Tech", "High quality", "I want it", etc. Hyundai hasn't been around for too long but they are definitely making inroads. Since it'll be a while before I will ever need to decide which 100K car I want, I just hope to see as many companies making cars as possible.

:iagree: perceptions change over time, and right now Korean car makers seem to have all the momentum. I'll never own a 100k car, but it's cool that there's finally going to be a Korean halo car. Hyundai also has a flagship model (Equus), a proper sporty coupe (GenCoupe), and they're receiving high marks for their fuel efficient engines in the Accent and Sonata. Plus, that warranty is terrific.

But if I were buying a 100k car, I might go British.

daisuke149 07-12-2011 10:12 AM

had a big response. deleted it. didnt wanna offend anyone :p

damn.

cow 07-12-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baldie (Post 1213176)
if it's a great car, i don't see a problem with it

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1213203)
You know what's funny? People paying well over 1/4 million for a Lexus.

See, Lexus used to be like Hyundai. BMW/Mercedes/etc. fans thought they were cheap crap. However, through providing equal or superior performance to those cars at cheaper prices, Lexus established itself, and stole a large market segment in the luxury/sport arena. Now, Lexus and BMW and Mercedes are synonymous with each other.

Hyundai looks to be following their exact business model. Look how far they came in just 10 years? Give them another 10 and unless the global economy changes radically, you will be singing another tune.

I couldn't have said it any better than these two posts.

Withhold judgement on the car until it's released & reviewed before instantly writing it off because it's a Hyundai.

Econ 07-12-2011 10:49 AM

it isnt the hyuandai badge detering me, however the fact that this would be their first "supercar", and im sure it would be a learning process for them.

I'd be nervous spending 100k on hyundais's first attempt. I personally dont think the hyundai brand is terrible, hell i only drive a nissan....who am i to judge.

JACKPAC 07-12-2011 10:52 AM

On the other side of the coin, if 20 years ago someone asked you if you'd pay $90,000 for a nissan you would of said, hell no! Now you're all on the GTR band wagan. You never know what they will be as a company in 10-20 years.

zuperman 370 07-12-2011 10:58 AM

10 or 20 years from now a lot could change, but right now i also will not pay that much for a hundayi not because its a hundayi but simply because it is their first attempt plus i could get a car that is proven and has a history a legacy instead of a car that has none at all

daisuke149 07-12-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1213577)
it isnt the hyuandai badge detering me, however the fact that this would be their first "supercar", and im sure it would be a learning process for them.

I'd be nervous spending 100k on hyundais's first attempt. I personally dont think the hyundai brand is terrible, hell i only drive a nissan....who am i to judge.

they have the partners, the money, technology to create a really amazing supercar.

They could even make it a diesel supercar if they wanted to based on their diesel tech they have worldwide.

Problem is hyundai ussually tones down their cars a bit for more mass market appeal.

If they really decide to go bonkers on this it could be something quite extreme.

ImportConvert 07-12-2011 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1213673)
they have the partners, the money, technology to create a really amazing supercar.

They could even make it a diesel supercar if they wanted to based on their diesel tech they have worldwide.

Problem is hyundai ussually tones down their cars a bit for more mass market appeal.

If they really decide to go bonkers on this it could be something quite extreme.

Considering the price tag, if it's real, they have decided to step into a different arena. Any one of those executives can and most assuredly has driven any number of high-end cars. They would not price their offering among them if they did not feel they could compete. Their business model seems to be very successful, not based on stupid moves. If they bring a $100K car to market, you can bet it will perform.

Econ 07-12-2011 12:43 PM

also, i bet if they bring this car to the market, it will have no hyundai badging, and 99% of the population will have no idea it's a hyundai

the viper didnt say "Dodge" anywhere on it.

svmtbman 07-12-2011 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1213203)
You know what's funny? People paying well over 1/4 million for a Lexus.

See, Lexus used to be like Hyundai. BMW/Mercedes/etc. fans thought they were cheap crap. However, through providing equal or superior performance to those cars at cheaper prices, Lexus established itself, and stole a large market segment in the luxury/sport arena. Now, Lexus and BMW and Mercedes are synonymous with each other.

Hyundai looks to be following their exact business model. Look how far they came in just 10 years? Give them another 10 and unless the global economy changes radically, you will be singing another tune.

:iagree:

DJ-of-E 07-12-2011 01:08 PM

Funny, I wonder how people feel about "Japanese sport cars" back then when American and European cars were THE cars to own.

I applaud Hyundai for this endeavor. The direction they're taking to their cars really outshines Honda and Toyota. If they have a car that competes with a Porsche or GTR, that's just putting themselves 2 steps above Toyota and Honda. I'm getting tired of the "just enough" feeling while Mazda and Hyundai has been bumping up their $50K< segments.

b1adesofcha0s 07-12-2011 01:15 PM

If Hyundai can put out a $100k car that can compete with the GT-R and 911, it might help motivate Nissan/Porsche to further develop their own cars and make them even better. I'd say that's a win for everyone :tup:

HKYStormFront 07-12-2011 02:26 PM

if it has the sophistication of the GTR and 911 for $90-100k and has a 100k mile/10 year warranty, it should do very well. my dad just got a new sonata and it's a really nice car! they really have come a long way!

nuTinmuch 07-12-2011 02:33 PM

I am actually a big fan of most of Hyundai's new cars. They are really good, and I'm excited to see where they go in a few years.

DJ-of-E 07-12-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1213777)
If Hyundai can put out a $100k car that can compete with the GT-R and 911, it might help motivate Nissan/Porsche to further develop their own cars and make them even better. I'd say that's a win for everyone :tup:

Seriously, the new 2012 Hyundai Genesis should influence Nissan to start putting a V8 powerplant or turbo option to the Z and G =P

Econ 07-12-2011 03:34 PM

from the WSJ today:

"But today Hyundai U.S. Chief John Krafcik shared a curious bit of info that seems almost implausible. The brand also seems to appeal to the very wealthy.

American Express Centurion Card holders – those people who are rich enough that they are offered a “Black Card” with a nearly unlimited line of credit and a host of other niceties – buy Hyundais at a disproportionately high rate compared with other cars. Indeed, 6% of Black Card holders say they have a Hyundai in the garage. That’s tied with Bentley and Audi. Others on the list: BMW is tops with 22%; then Mercedes with 21%; Porsche with 15%; Lexus, 11%; Ferrari, 8%; and Acura, 7%. That puts a lot of interesting brands below it."

b1adesofcha0s 07-12-2011 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ-of-E (Post 1213884)
Seriously, the new 2012 Hyundai Genesis should influence Nissan to start putting a V8 powerplant or turbo option to the Z and G =P

That or at least do something to improve its performance. Not just the Genesis, but the 2011 Mustang GT should influence Nissan as well since it must be stealing a lot of potential Z sales.

VQStryker 07-15-2011 03:07 AM

IF I had that kind of money, I would honestly get the R35.

on a side note, if they make the car I look forward to seeing how it performs.

CBRich 07-15-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 1213206)
I'm never going to stoop down to the Hyundai level no matter what their performance numbers are

Stoop down? Take a look around and read a car review sometime.

daisuke149 07-15-2011 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 1217459)
Stoop down? Take a look around and read a car review sometime.

what he really meant is that he is never going to pull his head out of his own *** long enough to even take a breath of fresh air.

Never is a long time for anyone to use the word and often times they dont really think about the meaning of what they are saying.

Alchemy 07-15-2011 05:02 PM

Sorry guys I have to agree, I would NEVER buy a Hyundai. I dont care what its number are like. Call me close minded but its a f-ing HYUNDAI! To spend 100k on a Hyundai is absolutly unacceptable. If Hyundai was the last car maker on the planet Id buy a bike. No self respecting car guy can drive around with his head held high in a cheap hunk of poop like that.

ImportConvert 07-15-2011 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1218159)
Sorry guys I have to agree, I would NEVER buy a Hyundai. I dont care what its number are like. Call me close minded but its a f-ing HYUNDAI! To spend 100k on a Hyundai is absolutly unacceptable. If Hyundai was the last car maker on the planet Id buy a bike. No self respecting car guy can drive around with his head held high in a cheap hunk of poop like that.

Same can be said for a Nissan, considering their products are of similar quality.

daisuke149 07-15-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1218159)
Sorry guys I have to agree, I would NEVER buy a Hyundai. I dont care what its number are like. Call me close minded but its a f-ing HYUNDAI! To spend 100k on a Hyundai is absolutly unacceptable. If Hyundai was the last car maker on the planet Id buy a bike. No self respecting car guy can drive around with his head held high in a cheap hunk of poop like that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1218172)
Same can be said for a Nissan, considering their products are of similar quality.

yeah the nissan's score lower on reliability mostly.

The Versa is considered one of the cheapest cars to buy...

and no your not being closed minded. your being closed minded and ridiculously stupid.

Honestly.. comeon. you saying you would buy a TATA over a Hyundai!! Pfffft :p

CBRich 07-15-2011 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1218159)
Sorry guys I have to agree, I would NEVER buy a NISSAN. I dont care what its number are like. Call me close minded but its a f-ing NISSAN! To spend 100k on a NISSAN is absolutly unacceptable. If NISSAN was the last car maker on the planet Id buy a bike. No self respecting car guy can drive around with his head held high in a cheap hunk of poop like that.

And this is what a "Chevy" guy from the 70s said back then. You know, that guy you laugh at and make fun of for being stuck in the past and not liking imports.

YOU ARE HIM.

Rui Z 07-15-2011 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1218159)
Sorry guys I have to agree, I would NEVER buy a Hyundai. I dont care what its number are like. Call me close minded but its a f-ing HYUNDAI! To spend 100k on a Hyundai is absolutly unacceptable. If Hyundai was the last car maker on the planet Id buy a bike. No self respecting car guy can drive around with his head held high in a cheap hunk of poop like that.

a.k.a. Snob

Alchemy 07-15-2011 10:09 PM

Lol. I knew that comment would ruffle feathers. Go trade your Z's in for Genesis'. Its my personal opinion. A 100k Hyundai is retarded plain and simple.:stirthepot:


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