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daisuke149 07-15-2011 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1218458)
Lol. I knew that comment would ruffle feathers. Go trade your Z's in for Genesis'. Its my personal opinion. A 100k Hyundai is retarded plain and simple.:stirthepot:

Some people shouldnt be entitled to personal opinions. You. Sarah Palin. Mumrah.

FL 4Motion 07-15-2011 10:36 PM

The more choices we as the consumer have, the better. I hope they come out wiht a kick a$$ car that offers alot of performance for the $$. Will force Nissan, Porsche, Chevy etc to increase the performance/value of their offerings.

:tup:

90 ST 07-15-2011 10:47 PM

i almost went for another hyundai. They have stepped up in many ways the last 10 yrs. i personally would have no problems buying another one...maybe not the first attempt of something, but i wouldn't buy the first attempt at any new car platform, no matter who makes it. Now they've played with RWD and seem to have done a good job first time out, the 2nd gen Genesis should be very interesting.

ImportConvert 07-15-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1218461)
Some people shouldnt be entitled to personal opinions. You. Sarah Palin. Mumrah.

Oh, they can have their own opinions. Just not their own facts.

Alchemy 07-15-2011 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1218496)
Oh, they can have their own opinions. Just not their own facts.

Like I said the numbers or " facts" can be there. Still not buyin a Hyundai. Sorry, I have some self respect.

ImportConvert 07-16-2011 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1218509)
Like I said the numbers or " facts" can be there. Still not buyin a Hyundai. Sorry, I have some self respect.

Well, if you define your self-worth with a $30K-something Nissan and a fart-pipe, more power to you, Mr. Big. :bowrofl:

Isamu 07-16-2011 03:57 AM

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Isamu 07-16-2011 03:59 AM

when I was waiting for my NISMO, the dealership gave me a 2010 sonata to drive around... it was awesome... really comfortable ride, I liked the stock stereo, it was really quite nice... it had some balls too... I told my wife, if we were in the market for a sedan, we would have to really consider the Sonata.

daisuke149 07-16-2011 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1218661)
when I was waiting for my NISMO, the dealership gave me a 2010 sonata to drive around... it was awesome... really comfortable ride, I liked the stock stereo, it was really quite nice... it had some balls too... I told my wife, if we were in the market for a sedan, we would have to really consider the Sonata.

you loved that sonata so much you triple posted! :p

haha j/k

yeah i tested a sonata as well and it was really nice. My 2006 sonata is still really nice though. with the v6 it hauls.

but then again, i only tested the sonata because i have self respect and am not a bigot.

Alchemy 07-16-2011 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1218639)
Well, if you define your self-worth with a $30K-something Nissan and a fart-pipe, more power to you, Mr. Big. :bowrofl:

Hmmmm, guess im not allowed to have my own opinion. If im not mistaken the title of this thread is "would you pay 100k for Hyundai". I apologize for saying no, guy with Import in his name and drives a Z06, dont own a Z and is on a Z forum. Funny how I didnt attack anyone personally I just stated I wouldnt own a Hyundai and I have morons like you talkin smack. I also would never buy a teacup poodle if I was in the market for a dog, wanna give me shĄt for that too??

Isamu 07-16-2011 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1218723)
Hmmmm, guess im not allowed to have my own opinion. If im not mistaken the title of this thread is "would you pay 100k for Hyundai". I apologize for saying no, guy with Import in his name and drives a Z06, dont own a Z and is on a Z forum. Funny how I didnt attack anyone personally I just stated I wouldnt own a Hyundai and I have morons like you talkin smack. I also would never buy a teacup poodle if I was in the market for a dog, wanna give me shĄt for that too??

well, I guess you can't join the cool kids club :gtfo2:


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Isamu 07-16-2011 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1218718)
you loved that sonata so much you triple posted! :p

haha j/k

yeah i tested a sonata as well and it was really nice. My 2006 sonata is still really nice though. with the v6 it hauls.

but then again, i only tested the sonata because i have self respect and am not a bigot.

yea!! stupid work interwebz!

lol.. but seriously, it was pretty nice... made me really think about what I would want in a four door.

CBRich 07-16-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1218723)
Hmmmm, guess im not allowed to have my own opinion. If im not mistaken the title of this thread is "would you pay 100k for Hyundai". I apologize for saying no, guy with Import in his name and drives a Z06, dont own a Z and is on a Z forum. Funny how I didnt attack anyone personally I just stated I wouldnt own a Hyundai and I have morons like you talkin smack. I also would never buy a teacup poodle if I was in the market for a dog, wanna give me shĄt for that too??

Your answer to the question does NOT make us think your head is fully inserted into your ***. The way you answered the question most certainly does.

I guess it's a good thing I don't judge my self worth by what I drive. Otherwise I'd have to believe that every Porsche owner out there who "wouldn't stoop" to a Nissan was better than me.

Lug 07-16-2011 11:35 AM

You've all forgoten Hyundai's 10 YEAR, 100,000 MILE WARRANTY!


10 years on a supercar! SWEEEEEEEEET!


:D

Alchemy 07-16-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 1218903)
You've all forgoten Hyundai's 10 YEAR, 100,000 MILE WARRANTY!


10 years on a supercar! SWEEEEEEEEET!


:D

Lol yeah that would be sweet. Though im sure their "supercar" (lol) wouldnt carry that kinda warranty.

ImportConvert 07-16-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1219106)
Lol yeah that would be sweet. Though im sure their "supercar" (lol) wouldnt carry that kinda warranty.

It very well might.

My GM has a 5/100 powertrain and 7/70 bumper-to-bumper.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hyundai did 10/100 for their supercar just as another selling point. Remember, they aim to BEAT the other $100K cars out there. Including ones from prestigious, high-end manufacturers like Nissan.

Alchemy 07-16-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1219148)
It very well might.

My GM has a 5/100 powertrain and 7/70 bumper-to-bumper.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hyundai did 10/100 for their supercar just as another selling point. Remember, they aim to BEAT the other $100K cars out there. Including ones from prestigious, high-end manufacturers like Nissan.

Its possible that the warranty may apply, but like my dad used to say " you can polish a turd but its still a turd". And I would say Nissan can produce a pretty good automobile. Like the GTR you should have bought instead of that Z06.

CBRich 07-16-2011 05:48 PM

EVERYBODY CALM DOWN. He's just a fanboy gone awry. Ignore him and he might go away.

Alchemy 07-16-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 1219158)
EVERYBODY CALM DOWN. He's just a fanboy gone awry. Ignore him and he might go away.

Lol I love forums, you have a opinion and are automatically labeled a fanboy by guys who just love to throw the term around. Too funny, unsubscribe.

FL 4Motion 07-16-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1219148)
It very well might.

My GM has a 5/100 powertrain and 7/70 bumper-to-bumper.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hyundai did 10/100 for their supercar just as another selling point. Remember, they aim to BEAT the other $100K cars out there. Including ones from prestigious, high-end manufacturers like Nissan.

I'm fairly certain you were kidding, but regardless, :bowrofl:

daisuke149 07-16-2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1219154)
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Its possible that the warranty may apply, but like my dad used to say " you can polish a turd but its still a turd". And I would say Nissan can produce a pretty good automobile. Like the GTR you should have bought instead of that Z06.

see theres the thing. Nissan can produce a pretty good automobile. What are you basing this statement on?

because by almost every measure out there, the Hyundai's are more reliable than nissan's across the entire brand.

Sure thye may not hold their value, but that is also based alot of people thinking of their name. Aka people who still think Hyundai is the same company as 20 years ago.

The problem with saying you would never consider them is the type of thinking and attitude that has pretty much ruined companies in this country and taken the economy down with it. Unwillingness to change, consider, reconsider and think outside your normal comfort "box" is not good for any person, company, industry, etc.

Now all the random junky comments aside.

truthfully, if i were to consider a hyundai super car (hypotheticaly given i had the money), it would have to outperform the other cars. Being that its Hyundai's start in the supercar area. It would have to be better. Its the same thing with Hyundai's cars now. The reason their brand is growing so fast is that they are generally better than their competitors in the market segment (someone is gonna throw, the gen coupe isnt better than the 370z, but they arent the same market segment, and the Gen Coupe isnt the car they are trying to use to build their name. Sonata, Elantra, Genesis sedan)

If the new sonata, had lower MPG, had a smaller interior and trunk, cost more etc i wouldnt have looked at it over a Camry, Altima, etc.

So yeah if Hyundai releases a supercar that is better than or exactly equal to other supercars that cost the same or more, and you dont throw consideration at it, then your really not trying to buy a supercar, your really out just trying to buy a brand name. (of course if it looks like the backside of a Donkey, i wouldnt consider it either)

dad 07-16-2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1219154)
Like the GTR you should have bought instead of that Z06.

I would choose the Z06 also, I would not even consider a GTR!

$100,000.00 for a Hyundai, no not me! But I'd be happy with a 25K Sonata!

ImportConvert 07-17-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1219154)
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Its possible that the warranty may apply, but like my dad used to say " you can polish a turd but its still a turd". And I would say Nissan can produce a pretty good automobile. Like the GTR you should have bought instead of that Z06.

What if I didn't want a 4-seater with an automatic and a 2-ton curb-weight?

Totally different cars.

VQStryker 07-17-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1219175)
see theres the thing. Nissan can produce a pretty good automobile. What are you basing this statement on?

because by almost every measure out there, the Hyundai's are more reliable than nissan's across the entire brand.

Sure thye may not hold their value, but that is also based alot of people thinking of their name. Aka people who still think Hyundai is the same company as 20 years ago.

The problem with saying you would never consider them is the type of thinking and attitude that has pretty much ruined companies in this country and taken the economy down with it. Unwillingness to change, consider, reconsider and think outside your normal comfort "box" is not good for any person, company, industry, etc.

Now all the random junky comments aside.

truthfully, if i were to consider a hyundai super car (hypotheticaly given i had the money), it would have to outperform the other cars. Being that its Hyundai's start in the supercar area. It would have to be better. Its the same thing with Hyundai's cars now. The reason their brand is growing so fast is that they are generally better than their competitors in the market segment (someone is gonna throw, the gen coupe isnt better than the 370z, but they arent the same market segment, and the Gen Coupe isnt the car they are trying to use to build their name. Sonata, Elantra, Genesis sedan)

If the new sonata, had lower MPG, had a smaller interior and trunk, cost more etc i wouldnt have looked at it over a Camry, Altima, etc.

So yeah if Hyundai releases a supercar that is better than or exactly equal to other supercars that cost the same or more, and you dont throw consideration at it, then your really not trying to buy a supercar, your really out just trying to buy a brand name. (of course if it looks like the backside of a Donkey, i wouldnt consider it either)

long post and I see where your coming from with this. IMO people are sceptical about it because Hyundai is not neccesarily known just for being cheap (not neccesarily made cheap but cheap in price) but is known for more of an economy car brand. I guess what I am trying to say is they don't have much, if any, experience with high performance cars. It should be interesting to see how it turns out if they follow through....and to see how it looks once it is done.

My choice would still be the R35 and yes, in part, because of the name Nissan skyline :tiphat:

NewYorkJon34 07-17-2011 04:17 PM

Z06 of nothing, lol saving as we speak.

hansoac 07-22-2011 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1213577)
it isnt the hyuandai badge detering me, however the fact that this would be their first "supercar", and im sure it would be a learning process for them.

I'd be nervous spending 100k on hyundais's first attempt. I personally dont think the hyundai brand is terrible, hell i only drive a nissan....who am i to judge.

I find it ballsy that you bought the first year of a new model sports car from Nissan. :tup:

b1adesofcha0s 07-22-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hansoac (Post 1224819)
I find it ballsy that you bought the first year of a new model sports car from Nissan. :tup:

Not exactly the same though. Nissan has a long heritage with the Z and has been making them for a while. The hyundai supercar would be a first attempt and there is no history or experience behind it. Also, huge difference between trying out a $30-40k first attempt and a $100k first attempt. Still get what you're saying though.

ImportConvert 07-22-2011 10:25 AM

If a mass-murderer can inspire the development of a vehicle that morphed from being "economical transportation" to the platform that the most winning-est automotive name in history has used to dominate automotive sport, by and large, then I am not counting ANYONE out just because of their roots.

Zerafian 07-25-2011 10:31 PM

People bought the GTR when it cost over $90k when it first came out due to all the mark ups and its a NISSAN so the possibility is there.

I think its a little soon for hyundia though, maybe another 5-10 years...and from the looks of the concept its gonna take that much time to perfect the design.

Isamu 07-26-2011 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1225127)
If a mass-murderer can inspire the development of a vehicle that morphed from being "economical transportation" to the platform that the most winning-est automotive name in history has used to dominate automotive sport, by and large, then I am not counting ANYONE out just because of their roots.

more details?

ImportConvert 07-26-2011 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1230127)
more details?

Hitler's influence---->VW Bug--->Porsche

Lots of steps in between, but basically...

Isamu 07-26-2011 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1230142)
Hitler's influence---->VW Bug--->Porsche

Lots of steps in between, but basically...

that's where I figured you were headed, but I wasn't 100% sure

FL 4Motion 07-26-2011 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1230175)
that's where I figured you were headed, but I wasn't 100% sure

Ferdinand Porsche designed the car for ol Adolf. So basically Porsche's are all derived from Nazi sleds.:p

vividracing 07-26-2011 05:08 PM

Hey guys, I found a pic of Alchemy:

http://files.sharenator.com/They_see...128685-580.jpg


I first noticed Hyundai making improvements when my friend got an 06 Tiburon GT V6 right after we graduated high school. It was beating everyones Civics, RSXs, and tCs... And it was quieter inside and more comfortable.

daisuke149 07-26-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 1231528)
Hey guys, I found a pic of Alchemy:

http://files.sharenator.com/They_see...128685-580.jpg


I first noticed Hyundai making improvements when my friend got an 06 Tiburon GT V6 right after we graduated high school. It was beating everyones Civics, RSXs, and tCs... And it was quieter inside and more comfortable.

tiburon 03 v6 was the first car i paid for myself. it was a great car. felt quick for the time, was good looking. Was not a mustang/civic/rsx which is what everyone else had. Only problem the car ever gave me was the fact that it lead me to believe that i could install a supercharger, coils, sways, new headers, exhaust and change the timing belt in 8 hours without messing something up. (didnt end well)

Alchemy 07-26-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 1231528)
Hey guys, I found a pic of Alchemy:

http://files.sharenator.com/They_see...128685-580.jpg


I first noticed Hyundai making improvements when my friend got an 06 Tiburon GT V6 right after we graduated high school. It was beating everyones Civics, RSXs, and tCs... And it was quieter inside and more comfortable.

I dont troll dĄck. Sorry I dont like Hyundai's nor would I pay 100k for one. Its nice to see sponsors acting professional on here. Next time I drop a couple G's into my car ill be sure to order from your site.

shadoquad 07-26-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1218461)
Some people shouldnt be entitled to personal opinions. You. Sarah Palin. Mumrah.

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Isamu 07-26-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1231482)
Ferdinand Porsche designed the car for ol Adolf. So basically Porsche's are all derived from Nazi sleds.:p

you can't really say that... but I know what you mean lol

ImportConvert 07-26-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1231566)
I dont troll dĄck. Sorry I dont like Hyundai's nor would I pay 100k for one. Its nice to see sponsors acting professional on here. Next time I drop a couple G's into my car ill be sure to order from your site.

Hey, so I did a bit of research on Vivid Racing.

-They have been around for 10 years.
-The owner, Dan Mermelstein, (like most people who's name ends in "stein":p), makes well over 1/4 million a year.
-Having worked in the automotive and other industries myself, I know that some guy like you, with your mentality, could likely cost well over the profit margin on $2K in goods/service if I actually try to make you happy with the service/purchase. Your business could likely have a NEGATIVE impact on Vivid Racing's net income.
-Sponsors pay to be sponsors. They can spend their money any way they want, and if they want to prevent you from spending your money with them being calling you out, that's their business.

Demon Z 07-26-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zerafian (Post 1229987)
People bought the GTR when it cost over $90k when it first came out due to all the mark ups and its a NISSAN so the possibility is there.

True, but the GT-R also has 40 years of lineage and a proven background. No Hyundai model can make that claim.

My issue with Hyundais in general is a philosophical one; they didn't necessarily have to work to get where they are. It's easy to stand on the shoulders of innovators and reverse engineer your competitors' efforts; it's something entirely different to come up with groundbreaking designs and technologies that their Japanese counterparts pioneered before them.

But I must give credit where it's due; progress is progress. Anyone who's driven an early 90's Hyundai can attest just how far they've come. :icon17: 100k Hyundai? Maybe with someone else's money. .02


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