FT-86 vs 370z time to trade in?

b1adesofcha0s · 01-16-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I agree, it will decimate anything once you drop 15k into it and if we have to overnight parts from Japan.

Though it will fetch a premium a week before race wars.

Trips · 01-16-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nissan is Gay

Scion FRS will destroy the Z anyday! 370z engines are so full of crap.

Goodbye TROLL!!

b1adesofcha0s · 01-16-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple's

Goodbye TROLL!!

speed_BMW330i · 01-16-2012, 01:09 AM

When I first saw the pics for the FT-86, it looked pretty damn sweet, but now that reality has kicked in and the final production model has been shown, its a big let down. Looks matter and I don't think that the FT-86 has them. Is there really a market for a $20K sports car?

Waiz · 01-16-2012, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by speed_BMW330i

When I first saw the pics for the FT-86, it looked pretty damn sweet, but now that reality has kicked in and the final production model has been shown, its a big let down. Looks matter and I don't think that the FT-86 has them. Is there really a market for a $20K sports car?

Yes there is!

Hell I would buy one

DWS44 · 01-16-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by speed_BMW330i

When I first saw the pics for the FT-86, it looked pretty damn sweet, but now that reality has kicked in and the final production model has been shown, its a big let down. Looks matter and I don't think that the FT-86 has them. Is there really a market for a $20K sports car?

I was following the FT-86 development for some time, but as expected, the homogenized production version was disappointing...as was the lack of horsepower! That's what ultimately led me back to the Z. Maybe Toyota will actually bring back something worthy of being a Supra someday!

phelan · 04-25-2011, 11:13 AM

The problem with the Subaru though is it won't stay in the 20k price range, the cost will shoot up like crazy to get all the basic Subie stuff - AWD, boxer engine, blah blah blah. Unless they do keep the Toyota engine in there...which would be kinda weird I think. Subie without a boxer engine...hmmph.

kenchan · 04-25-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by phelan

...which would be kinda weird I think. Subie without a boxer engine...hmmph.

yah, i'd be like toyata without a green yaris.

Booger · 04-25-2011, 11:56 AM

What a blatant Z rip-off! Is that legal, can they do that sh**? Actually... who really cares. ALL SHOW AND NO GOOO!!!!!!!

kenchan · 04-25-2011, 12:54 PM

not an authentic rip-off like fake wheels and bumpers.

HATED1 · 04-25-2011, 01:28 PM

I'll be checking out the Suburu verison of the ft-86, What drew my attention apart from its nice looking exterior, is that the VP says "how would you like to go to the track and carry all your spares and jack in the car without having to use a truck or trailer"
BUT after watching the video the second time around in the end he says, something like, "This is an example of what tuners could do to this vehicle, yadda yadda" so this makes me wonder how much the production model will look like the concept.

Red370 · 04-25-2011, 01:42 PM

Yall thought Miata and S2000 owners got hated on for driving "chick" cars...

TongMan · 04-25-2011, 02:34 PM

The design is really attractive and stylish, but the power will be lacking. Toyota is aiming for a retail price in the low 25k market. It will compete with the Hyundai Genesis 2.0T, Subaru WRX, Lancer Ralliart, VW GTI, Mini Cooper, Honda Civic Si, Cobalt SS T/C, Dodge Caliber SRT4, etc.

I'm thinking it will be close to the 200 bhp league. It's no where near the status of the 370z.

Red__Zed · 04-25-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TongMan

The design is really attractive and stylish, but the power will be lacking. Toyota is aiming for a retail price in the low 25k market. It will compete with the Hyundai Genesis 2.0T, Subaru WRX, Lancer Ralliart, VW GTI, Mini Cooper, Honda Civic Si, Cobalt SS T/C, Dodge Caliber SRT4, etc.

I'm thinking it will be close to the 200 bhp league. It's no where near the status of the 370z.

Yes, but it should be running an engine that is proven to hold up to quite a bit of boost, something I think most of us wish the Z could do.

DJ-of-E · 04-25-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Yes, but it should be running an engine that is proven to hold up to quite a bit of boost, something I think most of us wish the Z could do.

Subaru engine on 400HP would definitely make this a scary car.

However...I'm pretty sure the car's more like a RWD Celica/Supra replacement than the AE86 replacement. I mean the 4AG engine in the AE86 was pretty high in RPM during it's time. If the boxer engine can't out-rev that, it's kinda mute point.

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speed_BMW330i Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: chicago Posts: 107 Drives: 2006 BMW 330i Auto Rep Power: 18	When I first saw the pics for the FT-86, it looked pretty damn sweet, but now that reality has kicked in and the final production model has been shown, its a big let down. Looks matter and I don't think that the FT-86 has them. Is there really a market for a $20K sports car?

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