Hyundai Coupe getting 333hp

BLM · 03-08-2011, 01:00 PM

It's not the drivetrain loss, it's Ford purposely under-rating the car. And it also seems like Nissan may have over-rated the Z given what it puts down stock. That's a lot of drivetrain loss for 2wd. My wrx dynoed around 50 hp less than it's advertised 227 bhp, and that was through AWD

Lug · 03-08-2011, 01:18 PM

Another thing to remember is a solid axle has slightly less drive train loss than IRS. Figures I've heard are something like 15% vs 13% in theory.

6MT · 03-08-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BLM

My wrx dynoed around 50 hp less than it's advertised 227 bhp, and that was through AWD

Of course it did. The advertised spec from Subaru was (as you said), 227bhp. Most dyno's measure power at the rear wheels, not the crankshaft. About an average of 15 to 20 percent difference.

Mine was the same. My dyno was 7 percent less than the Nissan advertised spec.

kenchan · 03-08-2011, 02:49 PM

for some reason i have a taste for white bread with american cheeze on it and toasted just right.

BLM · 03-08-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

Another thing to remember is a solid axle has slightly less drive train loss than IRS. Figures I've heard are something like 15% vs 13% in theory.

Doesn't the 5.0 GT have independent rear?

kenchan · 03-08-2011, 03:18 PM

but drivers on mustangs are considerably heavier on average (due to too much burgerage) so the hyundai (calbee FTW!) is faster even at 333hp.

cfweber · 03-08-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunnos

haha at first i wasnt mad that the Genesis would have 1 more HP, but now its kind of getting at me, they definitely did that on purpose haha. Im sure the weight of the Hyundai will be in the same ballpark as the Z too. Whenever the Hyundai comes out we will see many threads comparing the two cars, it wont be a Z vs the Mustang-it will be Z vs the Genesis.......

I think it was Motor Trend that took those 3 cars out on the road-

Maybe on the PCH or something in Cali

The Z won

cfweber · 03-08-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BLM

I don't care if it's classified as a flying dildo...I want a GT-R

+1

b1adesofcha0s · 03-08-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cfweber

I think it was Motor Trend that took those 3 cars out on the road-

Maybe on the PCH or something in Cali

The Z won

Yeah, but that was the 2010 Mustang, not the new and improved 2011 Mustang.

PapoZalsa · 03-08-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

but drivers on mustangs are considerably heavier on average (due to too much burgerage) so the hyundai (KALBI FTW!) is faster even at 333hp.

FIXED!

OH YES! KALBI FTW!

kenchan · 03-08-2011, 07:44 PM

Haha I meant galbi, although I love indian food too.

kenchan · 03-08-2011, 07:45 PM

Wow datz a big pict of delicious!

sonic370 · 03-08-2011, 07:48 PM

it's a Hyundai sorry doesn't interest me. but to each his own.
the true sports car 2 seater is only for a select group of buyers.
there will always be a ton of people who will never consider the z
because of that no matter how much HP nissan puts into it.

i can't say for sure but i wouldn't be off much there is probably less
than 5 true sports cars meaning 2 seats that cost between 30,000 to 50,000
imho thats who the z competes with.

red6spd · 03-08-2011, 07:59 PM

Dont think adding 30hp or whatever is going to bring the Hyundai down from low 14's in the quarter to low 13's and change the 0-60 from mid 5's to high 4's The latter is what the Z does. Its going to be a cool car, but it will never drive sound handle or feel like a Z.

The BlueMax · 03-08-2011, 09:40 PM

If Hyundai had some balls they would put a V8 under the hood and watch the competition start to worry, big time.

03-08-2011, 01:00 PM	#61 (permalink)
BLM Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 342 Drives: 2011 Silver M6 sport Rep Power: 14	It's not the drivetrain loss, it's Ford purposely under-rating the car. And it also seems like Nissan may have over-rated the Z given what it puts down stock. That's a lot of drivetrain loss for 2wd. My wrx dynoed around 50 hp less than it's advertised 227 bhp, and that was through AWD __________________ K&N // GTM // BERK

03-08-2011, 01:18 PM	#62 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 19	Another thing to remember is a solid axle has slightly less drive train loss than IRS. Figures I've heard are something like 15% vs 13% in theory. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

03-08-2011, 07:44 PM	#71 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	Haha I meant galbi, although I love indian food too. Last edited by kenchan; 03-08-2011 at 07:48 PM.

03-08-2011, 07:59 PM	#74 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	Dont think adding 30hp or whatever is going to bring the Hyundai down from low 14's in the quarter to low 13's and change the 0-60 from mid 5's to high 4's The latter is what the Z does. Its going to be a cool car, but it will never drive sound handle or feel like a Z. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

03-08-2011, 09:40 PM	#75 (permalink)
The BlueMax Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Louisville Posts: 337 Drives: 09 370/97 T/A 01 ZRX Rep Power: 25	Brave If Hyundai had some balls they would put a V8 under the hood and watch the competition start to worry, big time. __________________ The Blue Max

03-08-2011, 02:49 PM	#64 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	for some reason i have a taste for white bread with american cheeze on it and toasted just right.

03-08-2011, 03:18 PM	#66 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	but drivers on mustangs are considerably heavier on average (due to too much burgerage) so the hyundai (calbee FTW!) is faster even at 333hp.

03-08-2011, 07:45 PM	#72 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	Wow datz a big pict of delicious!

03-08-2011, 07:48 PM	#73 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	it's a Hyundai sorry doesn't interest me. but to each his own. the true sports car 2 seater is only for a select group of buyers. there will always be a ton of people who will never consider the z because of that no matter how much HP nissan puts into it. i can't say for sure but i wouldn't be off much there is probably less than 5 true sports cars meaning 2 seats that cost between 30,000 to 50,000 imho thats who the z competes with.

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