Hyundai Coupe getting 333hp

BLM · 03-08-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

333 Hyundai hp doesn't feel like 333 actual horsepower. Some cars are under estimated, in Hyundai's case I think they are overestimating to draw more young consumers.

New 5.0 Mustang GT's are rated at 412 bhp and dyno-ing at 395 whp! And they have Getrag tranny's stock. On the other end, I remember the horrific over-estimation that was the Mazda RX-8. There was such a huge discrepency between advertised bhp and power to the wheels that they actually issued customers rebates.

b1adesofcha0s · 03-08-2011, 12:52 PM

The 370Z is rated at 332 bhp, but puts out around 270-280 whp. I don't really know much about cars and normal drivetrain losses, but that seems like a lot compared to the figures for the mustang 5.0 that BLM gave.

BLM · 03-08-2011, 01:00 PM

It's not the drivetrain loss, it's Ford purposely under-rating the car. And it also seems like Nissan may have over-rated the Z given what it puts down stock. That's a lot of drivetrain loss for 2wd. My wrx dynoed around 50 hp less than it's advertised 227 bhp, and that was through AWD

6MT · 03-08-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BLM

My wrx dynoed around 50 hp less than it's advertised 227 bhp, and that was through AWD

Of course it did. The advertised spec from Subaru was (as you said), 227bhp. Most dyno's measure power at the rear wheels, not the crankshaft. About an average of 15 to 20 percent difference.

Mine was the same. My dyno was 7 percent less than the Nissan advertised spec.

Lug · 03-08-2011, 01:18 PM

Another thing to remember is a solid axle has slightly less drive train loss than IRS. Figures I've heard are something like 15% vs 13% in theory.

BLM · 03-08-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

Another thing to remember is a solid axle has slightly less drive train loss than IRS. Figures I've heard are something like 15% vs 13% in theory.

Doesn't the 5.0 GT have independent rear?

kenchan · 03-08-2011, 02:49 PM

for some reason i have a taste for white bread with american cheeze on it and toasted just right.

kenchan · 03-08-2011, 03:18 PM

but drivers on mustangs are considerably heavier on average (due to too much burgerage) so the hyundai (calbee FTW!) is faster even at 333hp.

PapoZalsa · 03-08-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

but drivers on mustangs are considerably heavier on average (due to too much burgerage) so the hyundai (KALBI FTW!) is faster even at 333hp.

FIXED!

OH YES! KALBI FTW!

sonic370 · 03-08-2011, 07:48 PM

it's a Hyundai sorry doesn't interest me. but to each his own.
the true sports car 2 seater is only for a select group of buyers.
there will always be a ton of people who will never consider the z
because of that no matter how much HP nissan puts into it.

i can't say for sure but i wouldn't be off much there is probably less
than 5 true sports cars meaning 2 seats that cost between 30,000 to 50,000
imho thats who the z competes with.

kenchan · 03-08-2011, 07:44 PM

Haha I meant galbi, although I love indian food too.

kenchan · 03-08-2011, 07:45 PM

Wow datz a big pict of delicious!

red6spd · 03-08-2011, 07:59 PM

Dont think adding 30hp or whatever is going to bring the Hyundai down from low 14's in the quarter to low 13's and change the 0-60 from mid 5's to high 4's The latter is what the Z does. Its going to be a cool car, but it will never drive sound handle or feel like a Z.

The BlueMax · 03-08-2011, 09:40 PM

If Hyundai had some balls they would put a V8 under the hood and watch the competition start to worry, big time.

3.SLOW6MT · 03-09-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Dont think adding 30hp or whatever is going to bring the Hyundai down from low 14's in the quarter to low 13's and change the 0-60 from mid 5's to high 4's The latter is what the Z does. Its going to be a cool car, but it will never drive sound handle or feel like a Z.

I have to disagree with the sound part. The 3.8 sounds insane, very similar to a Z actually. There is something to be said about that exhaust note...

It's not going to be as fast as a Z with the same driver, even with the extra hp/tq. It will make the car more marketable, however. A lot of people take mag times/specs extremely seriously and go solely by that, so it may help the car sell a little better. Hopefully the car won't cut power under high RPM shifts like it did when it first came out. The dealer did an ECU mod for it, but hopefully the new one won't come with it. That severely hampered the cars performance (I believe they tested it with/without and it improved by .3 and 2mph in the 1/4).

03-08-2011, 12:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 142	The 370Z is rated at 332 bhp, but puts out around 270-280 whp. I don't really know much about cars and normal drivetrain losses, but that seems like a lot compared to the figures for the mustang 5.0 that BLM gave. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

03-08-2011, 01:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
BLM Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 342 Drives: 2011 Silver M6 sport Rep Power: 15	It's not the drivetrain loss, it's Ford purposely under-rating the car. And it also seems like Nissan may have over-rated the Z given what it puts down stock. That's a lot of drivetrain loss for 2wd. My wrx dynoed around 50 hp less than it's advertised 227 bhp, and that was through AWD __________________ K&N // GTM // BERK

03-08-2011, 01:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 20	Another thing to remember is a solid axle has slightly less drive train loss than IRS. Figures I've heard are something like 15% vs 13% in theory. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

03-08-2011, 07:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Haha I meant galbi, although I love indian food too. Last edited by kenchan; 03-08-2011 at 07:48 PM.

03-08-2011, 07:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 22	Dont think adding 30hp or whatever is going to bring the Hyundai down from low 14's in the quarter to low 13's and change the 0-60 from mid 5's to high 4's The latter is what the Z does. Its going to be a cool car, but it will never drive sound handle or feel like a Z. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

03-08-2011, 02:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	for some reason i have a taste for white bread with american cheeze on it and toasted just right.

03-08-2011, 03:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	but drivers on mustangs are considerably heavier on average (due to too much burgerage) so the hyundai (calbee FTW!) is faster even at 333hp.

03-08-2011, 07:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 19	it's a Hyundai sorry doesn't interest me. but to each his own. the true sports car 2 seater is only for a select group of buyers. there will always be a ton of people who will never consider the z because of that no matter how much HP nissan puts into it. i can't say for sure but i wouldn't be off much there is probably less than 5 true sports cars meaning 2 seats that cost between 30,000 to 50,000 imho thats who the z competes with.

03-08-2011, 07:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Wow datz a big pict of delicious!

03-08-2011, 09:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
The BlueMax Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Louisville Posts: 337 Drives: 09 370/97 T/A 01 ZRX Rep Power: 26	Brave If Hyundai had some balls they would put a V8 under the hood and watch the competition start to worry, big time. __________________ The Blue Max

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