Hyundai Coupe getting 333hp

BLM · 03-08-2011, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

All car companies copy each other. It's market competition. If toyota has a truly stunning innovation, do BMW and Mercedes ignore it or come up with their own version of it? Or do they simply buy licensing from toyota? I'm guessing they don't ignore it if it attracts consumers.

Then where are the German supra's!?

I'm glad the german's pushed the envelope with the M's and AMG's and RS versions getting more and more powerful. It likely inspired Nissan to get the GTR over here (FINALLY!!!)

ImportConvert · 03-08-2011, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BLM

Then where are the German supra's!?

I'm glad the german's pushed the envelope with the M's and AMG's and RS versions getting more and more powerful. It likely inspired Nissan to get the GTR over here (FINALLY!!!)

I highly doubt that.

AMG, ///M, and P-car customers are not Nissan customers. Walk into a BMW or Porsche dealership and walk into a Nissan dealership. The difference is substantial.

BLM · 03-08-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I highly doubt that.

AMG, ///M, and P-car customers are not Nissan customers. Walk into a BMW or Porsche dealership and walk into a Nissan dealership. The difference is substantial.

I know. They usually can't drive and return the porsche's in 2 weeks because they're "too bumpy". Just because they have the money to afford more doesn't mean a thing. The one badge they all wear proudly is paying too much for their cars. Many purchase cars for status and to compensate for other areas of their lives that are lacking (often between their legs). The GT-R has a long heritage of racing and will stack up just fine against AMG, M, or porsche.

Re: dealerships, they are extremely different. They cater to money, not really enthusiasts. Even porsche. My father went looking for a GT3 and was asking the salesman technical questions regarding the suspension and he had NO CLUE wtf he was talking about. He was more concerned with what kind of coffee my dad wanted while he waited in the lobby. BMW is also notorious for this, at least where I'm from. Jersey is loaded with people and money. Every J-Wow wanna-be drives a white 3 series with a cigarette sticking out and thump music bellowing from the harmon kardon or whatever the heck system bmw uses in their "upgraded sound" package these days and every Situation-in-training is rocking an AMG or M3, automatic of cours. Part of being a true enthusiast is knowing how and where to spend your money. If money is not a factor, by all means bring on the stampede of prancing horses in bright fire engine red.

b1adesofcha0s · 03-08-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BLM

Then where are the German supra's!?

I'm glad the german's pushed the envelope with the M's and AMG's and RS versions getting more and more powerful. It likely inspired Nissan to get the GTR over here (FINALLY!!!)

I believe the GT-R was made to compete with the 911 Turbo. Nissan specifically challenged Porsche's lap time on the Nurburgring. They most likely brought it to the US to increase their sales, its a pretty large market here.

Cunnos · 03-08-2011, 08:19 AM

It sure is a good time to be in the market for a sports car, i think thats something we can all agree on. Whether its a 30, 40, 50k car, there are many choices and each car company is trying to outdo the other. I really cant see myself purchasing a Hyundai sports car, but who knows what they will do with their new coupe......im sure a lot of Porsche guys said the same thing about owning a Nissan GT-R, so we'll see!

SmoothZ · 03-09-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

It's still a 2+2..not a true sports car imho

That's an insult to 300ZX 2+2 owners! Take it back!

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Originally Posted by Sibze

meh

+1

Isamu · 03-10-2011, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

That's an insult to 300ZX 2+2 owners! Take it back!

+1

I only ride 2+0!!

but are the seats in the +2 really seats? or are they like the porsche seats?

Cunnos · 03-07-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by azn370z

Lol the japanese are known for copying too such as Lexus. Some may even say the z is copying Porsche so why shouldn't hyundai copy Nissan?

I understand that the Japanese are known for copying, but that still doesnt make it right. I personally feel that it is NOT good for competition. Some companies profit well from it, but from a consumer perspective or anyone that appreciates automobiles it does not move the automobile industry forward. Nissan got their design from previous Z's, 40 years of them being built, so I think that another car company coming in and stealing that design/tradition from a car is a slap in the face.....so as i said before I hope they dont do that.....plus I dont want people coming up to me asking me "Hey is that a Hyundai?"......

shadoquad · 03-07-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunnos

I understand that the Japanese are known for copying, but that still doesnt make it right. I personally feel that it is NOT good for competition. Some companies profit well from it, but from a consumer perspective or anyone that appreciates automobiles it does not move the automobile industry forward. Nissan got their design from previous Z's, 40 years of them being built, so I think that another car company coming in and stealing that design/tradition from a car is a slap in the face.....so as i said before I hope they dont do that.....plus I dont want people coming up to me asking me "Hey is that a Hyundai?"......

I think copying is ok for competition, as long as it isn't a direct ripoff. There is patent law out there to prevent direct copies from occurring.

cossie1600 · 03-08-2011, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunnos

I understand that the Japanese are known for copying, but that still doesnt make it right. I personally feel that it is NOT good for competition. Some companies profit well from it, but from a consumer perspective or anyone that appreciates automobiles it does not move the automobile industry forward. Nissan got their design from previous Z's, 40 years of them being built, so I think that another car company coming in and stealing that design/tradition from a car is a slap in the face.....so as i said before I hope they dont do that.....plus I dont want people coming up to me asking me "Hey is that a Hyundai?"......

blah, C5 did pretty well given it copied the front end from the FD RX-7

bigdog1250 · 03-07-2011, 04:08 PM

Good to see the competition stepping it up, hopefully the Z will counter in the upcoming years. Just because it has 2 more seats, doesn't mean it's not a competitor. People will be comparing performance and price more heavily than the number of seats.

Should make for an interesting bout in the upcoming years.

Cunnos · 03-07-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250

Good to see the competition stepping it up, hopefully the Z will counter in the upcoming years. Just because it has 2 more seats, doesn't mean it's not a competitor. People will be comparing performance and price more heavily than the number of seats.

Should make for an interesting bout in the upcoming years.

I completely agree, the GT-R has back seats too.

kenchan · 03-07-2011, 04:20 PM

dang 333hp. how many horses do our cars have again? 332 or was it 334? or 332.57?

6MT · 03-07-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunnos

So its confirmed, the Hyundai Genesis coupe will get 333 horsepower, 291 pound-feet of torque AND a new "face lift" (I wonder how much it will weight?). Looks like they are taking a direct shot at the 370z lineup.... One thing that Hyundai does well is copy other cars ( in terms of design ), the Genesis sedan looks exactly like Mercedes Benz. So lets hope they dont copy the Z when they go back to the drawing boards for the Genesis Coupe.........here is the article below

Spy Shots: Hyundai Genesis Coupe facelift on the way — Autoblog

Ok, but it's still a Hyundai.

Econ · 03-07-2011, 04:47 PM

the old one only weighed in at 3389lbs. even if they keep the same weight, with 333 hp, many consumers/magazines will be comparing these two cars...

im gonna need forced induction

03-07-2011, 04:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
bigdog1250 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 846 Drives: 991.2 GT3 Rep Power: 18	Good to see the competition stepping it up, hopefully the Z will counter in the upcoming years. Just because it has 2 more seats, doesn't mean it's not a competitor. People will be comparing performance and price more heavily than the number of seats. Should make for an interesting bout in the upcoming years. __________________ 350z / 40th 370z / C6 Z06 / BMW M4 / V10 R8 / C7 Grand Spot / 997.1 GT3 / S2K / Camaro ZL1 / 718 GTS / 991.2 GT3

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03-08-2011, 08:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
Cunnos Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: boston,ma Posts: 230 Drives: 2010 370z 40th anniv Rep Power: 16	It sure is a good time to be in the market for a sports car, i think thats something we can all agree on. Whether its a 30, 40, 50k car, there are many choices and each car company is trying to outdo the other. I really cant see myself purchasing a Hyundai sports car, but who knows what they will do with their new coupe......im sure a lot of Porsche guys said the same thing about owning a Nissan GT-R, so we'll see!

03-07-2011, 04:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	dang 333hp. how many horses do our cars have again? 332 or was it 334? or 332.57?

03-07-2011, 04:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
Econ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York City Posts: 2,546 Drives: Fiat? Rep Power: 20	the old one only weighed in at 3389lbs. even if they keep the same weight, with 333 hp, many consumers/magazines will be comparing these two cars... im gonna need forced induction