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Old 02-09-2011, 11:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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...the workhorse Lambda 3.8-liter V6 is bumped to a more respectable 333 hp and a corresponding increase in fuel economy to 29 mpg highway
Bastards!

Too bad they don't offer that new V8 in the coupe, that would be... interesting.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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yah, and that genesis sedan is actually better looking than benz or lexus at the moment...

they should really rebadge and differentiate from the hyundai brand. i know their American ceo was saying they will keep genesis under hyundai to improve overall image of their bread-butter cars but man.... i dont want to be explaining to everyone why i bought an expensive hyundai each time.
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I really like the way the Genesis coupe feels while driving but it is definitely not as refined or as driver focused as the 370z. They also have a weight penalty over the Z and until the interior quality improves significantly, I don't think it is going to overtake the Z anytime soon.

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**** that ive had my genesis coupe for 4 months and am trading it for a 370z.
since I drove this thing of the lot I have regretted not just nutting up and getting a Z.
not near as performance oriented as the Z, 6 speed is a ******* joke in this **** box, all the owners are ricers, and its not near as nice looking exterior or interior.

P.s it may have 1 more HP but it will still be half a second slower quarter mile, and a quater second or slower 0-60
no worries boys, be glad you got a z
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I think there's still some issues to be worked out with their cars, but Hyundai is only a couple years away from having a truly legitimate contender as a sports car.
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I think there's still some issues to be worked out with their cars, but Hyundai is only a couple years away from having a truly legitimate contender as a sports car.
I think the gen coupe could have been a serious contender. but in the end they said "lets make it appeal to a larger market" and softened it, etc.

Can't blame them, they still have a ways to go in terms of percieved image, so a true sports car may also not have been received as well.
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I think the gen coupe could have been a serious contender. but in the end they said "lets make it appeal to a larger market" and softened it, etc.

Can't blame them, they still have a ways to go in terms of percieved image, so a true sports car may also not have been received as well.
It's not a good market for sports cars. You can look at sales for anything that's out now, particularly the new 5.0's and the Z.

You release the current 5.0 mustang in other market condition, and there would be a six month wait. The 370 was a huge improvement over the 350, and sales tanked....
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yeah so imagine what hyundai would have had to fight in terms of pre-concieved notions of quality if they were to have done it now.

but i will say my 06 sonata LX (fully loaded for the time) has been perfect since i got it. never needed to go to dealership and everything works perfectly well. Was also 9k cheaper than the camry similarly equipped.

So they are def on their way.
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**** that ive had my genesis coupe for 4 months and am trading it for a 370z.
since I drove this thing of the lot I have regretted not just nutting up and getting a Z.
not near as performance oriented as the Z, 6 speed is a ******* joke in this **** box, all the owners are ricers, and its not near as nice looking exterior or interior.

P.s it may have 1 more HP but it will still be half a second slower quarter mile, and a quater second or slower 0-60
no worries boys, be glad you got a z
WHOA.. calm down there Sir; you gave it to them!

BUT, glad there will be another Z in AZ!!
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yeah so imagine what hyundai would have had to fight in terms of pre-concieved notions of quality if they were to have done it now.

but i will say my 06 sonata LX (fully loaded for the time) has been perfect since i got it. never needed to go to dealership and everything works perfectly well. Was also 9k cheaper than the camry similarly equipped.

So they are def on their way.
you got lucky.
the first week with my genesis coupe I had it in the dealer getting my driver side front wheel bearing replaced.
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you got lucky.
the first week with my genesis coupe I had it in the dealer getting my driver side front wheel bearing repaired.
LOL
maybe you got unlucky.

mom had a honda accord 2001 wheel bearing went back in about 3k miles. overall the honda was the worst car our family has had in about 20 years.

**** happens man, not necessarily reflective of the entire company.
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WHOA.. calm down there Sir; you gave it to them!

BUT, glad there will be another Z in AZ!!
Haha yes very excited to be getting one. I see most the autox and track guys on here are in az so I think ill be at home.
sorry that was a little ragerific, but until you've owned a genesis coupe you just wouldn't understand the disappointment
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maybe you got unlucky.

mom had a honda accord 2001 wheel bearing went back in about 3k miles. overall the honda was the worst car our family has had in about 20 years.

**** happens man, not necessarily reflective of the entire company.
oh yeah I still believe hyundai builds a good car, and i think I was the only person to have a wheel bearing failure on a gen coupe.
With every car its a hit or miss.... and a little bit of good or bad luck on the owners side lol
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Haha yes very excited to be getting one. I see most the autox and track guys on here are in az so I think ill be at home.
sorry that was a little ragerific, but until you've owned a genesis coupe you just wouldn't understand the disappointment
granted on that one, i test drove those a bit and its def not quite as crisp as a 370z. Going back to the they softened it up a bit.

either way like others said gratz on getting a 370z whenever you do!
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maybe you got unlucky.

mom had a honda accord 2001 wheel bearing went back in about 3k miles. overall the honda was the worst car our family has had in about 20 years.

**** happens man, not necessarily reflective of the entire company.
I think the inconsistency is one of the things that comes with the Hyundais. I've heard awesome experiences, and awful ones. They've been getting progressively better though.

I think that a less aggressive car is probably easier to work with, which is why most people have better experiences with stuff like the Sonata, vs the Genesis.

I'm hoping they merit a serious consideration on my next car purchase.
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