Nissan Juke, the beginning of the return of Turbocharged Z's?

wh!plash · 11-10-2010, 06:35 PM

All I can say is I test drove an AWD Juke last weekend. Honestly it surprised me how peppy it felt. For the price/performance/mileage of that thing, I gotta say I like where things are going for the daily driver.

jakoye · 11-10-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wh!plash

All I can say is I test drove an AWD Juke last weekend. Honestly it surprised me how peppy it felt. For the price/performance/mileage of that thing, I gotta say I like where things are going for the daily driver.

I'd never even heard of the Juke before. Looks like a Rav4 competitor?

So why can't Nissan just make a bigger version of this engine for the next Z? Seems like since they've already done it, it wouldn't be *that* hard?

Cmike2780 · 11-10-2010, 06:46 PM

Even though the Z is closely heading towards a niche market, Nissan will want to keep it around for a while as it shares a lot of components with it's sister car, the G coupe. If you combine their sales, i'm assuming its stall a profitable platform. Who know, maybe a electric motor assist could be in the future like the effeciantdynamics from BMW or the hybrid from Porsche.

Dark_Sub_Rosa · 11-10-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Even though the Z is closely heading towards a niche market, Nissan will want to keep it around for a while as it shares a lot of components with it's sister car, the G coupe. If you combine their sales, i'm assuming its stall a profitable platform. Who know, maybe a electric motor assist could be in the future like the effeciantdynamics from BMW or the hybrid from Porsche.

I see something like this being way more likely than any boosted version. I'm sure they'll continue to sell them, all the tooling and work is done now, they just produce and sell. I just don't think we'll be seeing anything as soon as we saw the 350 to 370 jump. The G is pretty profitable for them I would think more so than the Z. I'm sure they aren't just bleeding money on Z sales but probably not making a ton either.

murphman · 11-10-2010, 07:37 PM

here is your larger 4 banger in a coupe

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sonic370 · 11-10-2010, 07:41 PM

i look at it like this. the z is now an icon for nissian if it wasn't an important
part of the company they never would have re done the 370..

there is a market for a 35 to 45 grand two seater and nissan imho owns it..

the same way chevy has kept the vette around for over 50 years its part of their brand....

if chevy can make a 450-500 hp car... the next z has to have at least 375-400 hp. if for no other reason to keep the 5.0 and camaro in site...

imo right know in the US those cars set the bar

FL 4Motion · 11-10-2010, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370

i look at it like this. the z is now an icon for nissian if it wasn't an important
part of the company they never would have re done the 370..

there is a market for a 35 to 45 grand two seater and nissan imho owns it..

the same way chevy has kept the vette around for over 50 years its part of their brand....

if chevy can make a 450-500 hp car... the next z has to have at least 375-400 hp. if for no other reason to keep the 5.0 and camaro in site...

imo right know in the US those cars set the bar

/\ I agree with this. The Z is an iconic car for nissan going back to 1969. It's their affordable sports car. I don't see it going away, but I think we'll def see some sort of hybrid type drive in it at some point, perhaps as early as the Z35, ie. DI w/brake energy regeneration, mild hybrid type drive assist.

I'd love to see a 3.0 DI turbo w/brake force energy regeneration (or whatever it's called) making 400hp in the next Z, but we'll see.

Nissan won't put a v8 in the Z b/c it's traditionally always been a 6 banger. Same reason that the GTR won't see one eithter, it's always been a 6 or turbo 6 banger. Not too mention that the v8 is going the way of the dodo bird with increasing fuel efficiency standards all around.

MC can probably elaborate, but the racing GTR's that currently utilize a v8 are doing so either to accomodate the racing body rulebook or b/c an N/A motor is more reliable in endurance racing events.

gorillanismo · 11-11-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

/\ I agree with this. The Z is an iconic car for nissan going back to 1969. It's their affordable sports car. I don't see it going away, but I think we'll def see some sort of hybrid type drive in it at some point, perhaps as early as the Z35, ie. DI w/brake energy regeneration, mild hybrid type drive assist.

I'd love to see a 3.0 DI turbo w/brake force energy regeneration (or whatever it's called) making 400hp in the next Z, but we'll see.Nissan won't put a v8 in the Z b/c it's traditionally always been a 6 banger. Same reason that the GTR won't see one eithter, it's always been a 6 or turbo 6 banger. Not too mention that the v8 is going the way of the dodo bird with increasing fuel efficiency standards all around.

MC can probably elaborate, but the racing GTR's that currently utilize a v8 are doing so either to accomodate the racing body rulebook or b/c an N/A motor is more reliable in endurance racing events.

for me if they make a Hybrid Z Nissan dies for me, thats a masacre for a true sports car!!!

tjlazer · 11-10-2010, 08:49 PM

The X in 300ZX as for "Luxury" not Turbo.

With that said, I would love a 380Z TT!

Jamaica · 11-11-2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer

The X in 300ZX as for "Luxury" not Turbo.

With that said, I would love a 380Z TT!

350 to 370 to 380?

you really think 380 is next? should be interesting whats next.

gorillanismo · 11-11-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951

350 to 370 to 380?

you really think 380 is next? should be interesting whats next.

I dont think they make a 380Z because that is for the GTR with the VR38, they have to decrease displacement to 3.0-3.2 and put 2 sexy turbines to make it scream!!!

StealthZ · 11-11-2010, 06:25 AM

I don't want to see whats next... only because I'll go buy one

ClemsonWill · 11-11-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by StealthZ

I don't want to see whats next... only because I'll go buy one

I was sitting here thinking the same thing.

When I was looking for a car, I considered the corvette and mustang just because of the power. If the Z had 350whp I wouldn't have even thought about them.

Red370 · 11-11-2010, 10:13 AM

Well, me and the future Mrs. have decided to buy a Juke, we're gonna go with the gun metallic color and AWD version of course, test drove one and enjoyed it, its got some balls believe it or not, plenty sporty for me as well, i'm a fan, what can I say.

jakoye · 11-11-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

Well, me and the future Mrs. have decided to buy a Juke, we're gonna go with the gun metallic color and AWD version of course, test drove one and enjoyed it, its got some balls believe it or not, plenty sporty for me as well, i'm a fan, what can I say.

Well, congratulations... on both counts!

So I take it you didn't mind the styling of the Juke? I saw one reviewer call it "son of Aztec"!

11-10-2010, 06:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
wh!plash Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 49 Drives: 09 370Z Sport 7AT Rep Power: 16	All I can say is I test drove an AWD Juke last weekend. Honestly it surprised me how peppy it felt. For the price/performance/mileage of that thing, I gotta say I like where things are going for the daily driver. __________________ 2009 370Z Sport 7AT MB, Stillen exhaust + Gen3 intakes 2010 Ducati Streetfighter 2009 Triumph Street Triple

11-10-2010, 06:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 30	Even though the Z is closely heading towards a niche market, Nissan will want to keep it around for a while as it shares a lot of components with it's sister car, the G coupe. If you combine their sales, i'm assuming its stall a profitable platform. Who know, maybe a electric motor assist could be in the future like the effeciantdynamics from BMW or the hybrid from Porsche. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

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murphman Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: houston Posts: 611 Drives: 370z Tour Black 7AT Rep Power: 17	here is your larger 4 banger in a coupe Nissan/Infiniti News Room __________________ Mod List: FI 18" CBE// Eibach Springs// Rear Camber kit// Ingen CAI//

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tjlazer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tacoma Age: 53 Posts: 2,496 Drives: Z34, R35 Rep Power: 20	The X in 300ZX as for "Luxury" not Turbo. With that said, I would love a 380Z TT! __________________ 2009 370Z Monterey Blue,Nismo Conversion,RE-11's, K&N Typhoon intakes,Blue Kickplates,Homelink,FI 18" CBE,ERZ HFCs,Hotchkis sways, Swift Spec-R, EVO-R Highwing, UPREV

11-11-2010, 06:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
StealthZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 356 Drives: '14 GTR Premium Rep Power: 18	I don't want to see whats next... only because I'll go buy one __________________ Past rides: '07 350Z San Marino blue, '09 370z Brilliant silver, '11 Evo X Phantom Black (felt like a brick but did anything) '13 BRZ Satin white (so much fun) now driving the dream.

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sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 19	i look at it like this. the z is now an icon for nissian if it wasn't an important part of the company they never would have re done the 370.. there is a market for a 35 to 45 grand two seater and nissan imho owns it.. the same way chevy has kept the vette around for over 50 years its part of their brand.... if chevy can make a 450-500 hp car... the next z has to have at least 375-400 hp. if for no other reason to keep the 5.0 and camaro in site... imo right know in the US those cars set the bar

11-11-2010, 10:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 297	Well, me and the future Mrs. have decided to buy a Juke, we're gonna go with the gun metallic color and AWD version of course, test drove one and enjoyed it, its got some balls believe it or not, plenty sporty for me as well, i'm a fan, what can I say. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

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