Nissan Juke, the beginning of the return of Turbocharged Z's?

gorillanismo · 11-10-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

We'll see more tickled-down features that are already offered in other parts of the world for the succeeding year models. We may be seeing the last of the Z in its form today, and making a competing Z for tomorrow's entails an entirely different Z.

yeah, it could be like that...

but I cant believe that they will gonna kill the Z, Z is an icon, and is the only true sports car (excluding STi & Evo) that the japanese market are producing...

gorillanismo · 11-10-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

A new gen silvia has been rumored for awhile and I think this Juke is the test crowd for it all.
4 banger DI TT, in an vehicle that weights 3,000 pounds. Now all Nissan has to do is either up it to a 1.8 or 2.0L engine and they are golden. Even if they end up keeping it around 3,000 pounds (which I doubt), it will still be a great RWD car.

I think that the juke is an experiment of a few new projects, a Turbo Sentra that can compete with MazdaSpeed3, Caliber SRT4, GTI Turbo, (aparently Ford plans to take out a Fiesta Turbo)... other project are the Z and the third is the Silvia...

SoCal 370Z · 11-10-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gorillanismo

yeah, it could be like that...

but I cant believe that they will gonna kill the Z, Z is an icon, and is the only true sports car (excluding STi & Evo) that the japanese market are producing...

I don't believe Nissan will kill it, but the Z could be in for a long hiatus. All we need is an oil embargo to bring Z sales to a halt. Most vehicle manufacturers are retooling for tomorrow's world (about time) and these lost leader vehicles are not a priority. Hey, enjoy your Z while you can...and as long as you can.

370zproject · 11-10-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gorillanismo

I think that the juke is an experiment of a few new projects, a Turbo Sentra that can compete with MazdaSpeed3, Caliber SRT4, GTI Turbo, (aparently Ford plans to take out a Fiesta Turbo)... other project are the Z and the third is the Silvia...

mm silvia

Dark_Sub_Rosa · 11-10-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

i'd be more willing to accept the idea of a possible successor to the 240sx/silvia in the form of a 250sx either powered by the QR25 sentra/altima engine or the new 2.5L v6 (is it a VQ? i think it is...) from the G25. the Z will probably get direct injection soon, possibly as a mid generation update. either that or in the next gen ("Z35")

The Z isn't getting an update with DI anywhere remotely soon. That would be a huge overhaul that Nissan isn't going to put the money into. The days of the manual are slowly dying and along with that are the pure sports cars. It's shitty and no car fanatic wants to accept it but vehicles like the Z are a dying breed. I have a ton of friends at Corporate headquarters and it's scary to hear how lucky we are there is even a Z to begin with right now.

wh!plash · 11-10-2010, 06:35 PM

All I can say is I test drove an AWD Juke last weekend. Honestly it surprised me how peppy it felt. For the price/performance/mileage of that thing, I gotta say I like where things are going for the daily driver.

Cmike2780 · 11-10-2010, 06:46 PM

Even though the Z is closely heading towards a niche market, Nissan will want to keep it around for a while as it shares a lot of components with it's sister car, the G coupe. If you combine their sales, i'm assuming its stall a profitable platform. Who know, maybe a electric motor assist could be in the future like the effeciantdynamics from BMW or the hybrid from Porsche.

jakoye · 11-10-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wh!plash

All I can say is I test drove an AWD Juke last weekend. Honestly it surprised me how peppy it felt. For the price/performance/mileage of that thing, I gotta say I like where things are going for the daily driver.

I'd never even heard of the Juke before. Looks like a Rav4 competitor?

So why can't Nissan just make a bigger version of this engine for the next Z? Seems like since they've already done it, it wouldn't be *that* hard?

Dark_Sub_Rosa · 11-10-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Even though the Z is closely heading towards a niche market, Nissan will want to keep it around for a while as it shares a lot of components with it's sister car, the G coupe. If you combine their sales, i'm assuming its stall a profitable platform. Who know, maybe a electric motor assist could be in the future like the effeciantdynamics from BMW or the hybrid from Porsche.

I see something like this being way more likely than any boosted version. I'm sure they'll continue to sell them, all the tooling and work is done now, they just produce and sell. I just don't think we'll be seeing anything as soon as we saw the 350 to 370 jump. The G is pretty profitable for them I would think more so than the Z. I'm sure they aren't just bleeding money on Z sales but probably not making a ton either.

murphman · 11-10-2010, 07:37 PM

here is your larger 4 banger in a coupe

Nissan/Infiniti News Room

sonic370 · 11-10-2010, 07:41 PM

i look at it like this. the z is now an icon for nissian if it wasn't an important
part of the company they never would have re done the 370..

there is a market for a 35 to 45 grand two seater and nissan imho owns it..

the same way chevy has kept the vette around for over 50 years its part of their brand....

if chevy can make a 450-500 hp car... the next z has to have at least 375-400 hp. if for no other reason to keep the 5.0 and camaro in site...

imo right know in the US those cars set the bar

FL 4Motion · 11-10-2010, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370

i look at it like this. the z is now an icon for nissian if it wasn't an important
part of the company they never would have re done the 370..

there is a market for a 35 to 45 grand two seater and nissan imho owns it..

the same way chevy has kept the vette around for over 50 years its part of their brand....

if chevy can make a 450-500 hp car... the next z has to have at least 375-400 hp. if for no other reason to keep the 5.0 and camaro in site...

imo right know in the US those cars set the bar

/\ I agree with this. The Z is an iconic car for nissan going back to 1969. It's their affordable sports car. I don't see it going away, but I think we'll def see some sort of hybrid type drive in it at some point, perhaps as early as the Z35, ie. DI w/brake energy regeneration, mild hybrid type drive assist.

I'd love to see a 3.0 DI turbo w/brake force energy regeneration (or whatever it's called) making 400hp in the next Z, but we'll see.

Nissan won't put a v8 in the Z b/c it's traditionally always been a 6 banger. Same reason that the GTR won't see one eithter, it's always been a 6 or turbo 6 banger. Not too mention that the v8 is going the way of the dodo bird with increasing fuel efficiency standards all around.

MC can probably elaborate, but the racing GTR's that currently utilize a v8 are doing so either to accomodate the racing body rulebook or b/c an N/A motor is more reliable in endurance racing events.

tjlazer · 11-10-2010, 08:49 PM

The X in 300ZX as for "Luxury" not Turbo.

With that said, I would love a 380Z TT!

Jamaica · 11-11-2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer

The X in 300ZX as for "Luxury" not Turbo.

With that said, I would love a 380Z TT!

350 to 370 to 380?

you really think 380 is next? should be interesting whats next.

StealthZ · 11-11-2010, 06:25 AM

I don't want to see whats next... only because I'll go buy one

11-10-2010, 06:35 PM	#36 (permalink)
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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 28	Even though the Z is closely heading towards a niche market, Nissan will want to keep it around for a while as it shares a lot of components with it's sister car, the G coupe. If you combine their sales, i'm assuming its stall a profitable platform. Who know, maybe a electric motor assist could be in the future like the effeciantdynamics from BMW or the hybrid from Porsche. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

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tjlazer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tacoma Age: 52 Posts: 2,496 Drives: Z34, R35 Rep Power: 19	The X in 300ZX as for "Luxury" not Turbo. With that said, I would love a 380Z TT! __________________ 2009 370Z Monterey Blue,Nismo Conversion,RE-11's, K&N Typhoon intakes,Blue Kickplates,Homelink,FI 18" CBE,ERZ HFCs,Hotchkis sways, Swift Spec-R, EVO-R Highwing, UPREV

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sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	i look at it like this. the z is now an icon for nissian if it wasn't an important part of the company they never would have re done the 370.. there is a market for a 35 to 45 grand two seater and nissan imho owns it.. the same way chevy has kept the vette around for over 50 years its part of their brand.... if chevy can make a 450-500 hp car... the next z has to have at least 375-400 hp. if for no other reason to keep the 5.0 and camaro in site... imo right know in the US those cars set the bar

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